Laws banning driving with a cellphone?

Driving with a cellphone. - Just an image depicting driving while talking on a cell.
@Ciniful (1587)
Canada
February 2, 2007 11:16am CST
There are several places that have already done it, and more than are considering doing it. We've all seen it in action, someone driving along paying little attention to the road while talking on their cellphones. Their attention isn't where it's needed, on the road and the cars around them, and they become a threat .. not only to their own safety, but to the safety of everyone around them. So it's a good law, right? Only one problem ... how does this affect cab drivers, emergency personal and others who's job requires them to be talking on a radio, cb or telephone? It seems they are exempt from this law, for reasons unclear. Some police regulations have covered it, by ensuring there are two police in the car, one to drive, one to handle the radio. What about cab companies? This was a valid subject before, but one I'm even more concerned with now. My 12 year old son and I were in a car accident a few nights ago, when our cab driver was paying more attention to his radio than the road, and it resulted with him slamming on the breaks, not giving the big dodge ram behind us time to stop, so he slammed into us. We're fine, other than headaches and my sons neck pain (wrenched it pretty badly), but it could have been much worse, and it *would* have been avoided if the driver hadn't had his attention on the radio. So how do we justify a law stopping citizens from driving while talking on cellphones, while emergency vehicles and cab drivers continue to use their radios and cb's?
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@charlesming (1865)
• Singapore
3 Feb 07
The use of a mobile phone is prohibited in my country after a serious accident that resulted from the driver driving with only 1 hand while the other was on the mobile. It is not illegal however to use hands free. The idea is to have both hands free at all times. As long as you do not 'touch' or hold your earpiece or mobile phone that is fine. No one is exempt from this, not even the police. Talking on mobile phones is generally discouraged anyone. The driver is encouraged to stop and park at a safe place, finish the call and then move on.
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• Philippines
3 Feb 07
I agree with the law banning the use of cellphone while driving because it distracts you from driving. both hands are supposed to be at the steering wheel. i've heard a lot of accidents about this one, mostly fatal ones. This law should be implemented everywhere.
@gamekid (208)
• China
3 Feb 07
Oh,i think the law is necessary!Now,more and more cars are running on the road!The law must restrict these drivers pay more attentions while they're driving!Many accidents that happend while the drivers driving with a cellphone!So,i very agree with push the law!
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• United States
2 Feb 07
I agree with the laws for the phones - but for professional drivers using their radios is part of their job. If they can't use it while driving - they shouldn't have that job to begin with. I have noticed one thing that should be looked into - as I think using cell phones makes you colorblind. The light changes from red to green - and they don't see the difference. It doesn't seem to damage your hearing though - as they usually take off upon blowing your horn at them.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
2 Feb 07
Thanks for the response, but you sort of missed the point of the discussion. If cellphones are distracting drivers and causing accidents, and we all know they are, then why keep other vehicles on the road and allow them to talk away on radios under the guise of a profession? It has nothing to do with the individual wanting to work there or not, or working in the wrong field, but if a new approach should be taken in regards to those professions, to make them safer drivers as well.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
2 Feb 07
Okay, I'll try wording this another way, because no, you're still missing it. I couldn't care less about whether or not one person can do the job. I would like to see the PROFESSIONS regulations changed so that they are not providing another threat on the road. I don't know how to simplify it more than that. For example, your viewpoint is ... if Bob so and so can't drive while talking on the radio, they can always fire him and hire someone else, correct? Unfortunately, you're missing one important point. For the company to realize Bob can't do the job, he'd have to get into an accident. So, how many people need to get hurt before regulations are passed about CB's? Again, police have taken care of this in most places by having two officers in the car, so the one who is NOT driving can work the radio. Why would it be so difficult for a cab driver to be required to pull over before calling in? Fact. Driving while talking on a cellphone is dangerous to the driver and to all other people on the road around that driver. Fact. Driving while talking on a radio or a cb is dangerous to the driver and to all other people on the road around that driver. There is absolutely no difference. If regular drivers should be required to pull over to make a call, then so can cab drivers. Emergency vehicles can equip the cab with 2 people, so the one who is driving needn't take his attention off the road.
• United States
2 Feb 07
Actually - that WAS my point. The radio is necessity for those jobs, and the person behind the wheel is a professional driver hired by and paid by the company. If he/she cannot do the complete job (using the required equipment) he/she should not be in that position.
@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
2 Feb 07
This is one of those things that I've been wondering. So we outlaw talking on a cell phone while driving but people can still eat, smoke, play with the stereo or radio in their car? This doesn't make sense to me. Obviously smoking in a car is a distraction, the insurance industry has charged more to smokers for years on their car insurance.
@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
3 Feb 07
I think he makes a good point--studies have shown that eating, drinking, fiddling with a stereo, etc. are all distracting. Supposedly talking with someone in the car with you can be dangerously distracting if you're more involved in the discussion than the driving. Regarding phones, two=way radios, etc., maybe cab drivers and truckers should be required to use hands-free sets. Several U.S. states have passed laws that ban cell phone use in vehicles unless they're hands-free models. But, even those may be distracting.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
I'm not disputing that he has a point, I'm simply requesting this topic not get derailed and stick to the actual subject matter, the double standard involved in allowing vehicles pertaining to work relation to be exempt from this law. There are no jobs that I know of that require a person to be smoking or eating while driving.
• India
3 Feb 07
It is a criminal thing attending or making a call in cellphone while driving. Strickt action should be taken for the people who are using the cellphone while driving. Even using pulg-in type earphone with cellphone should be banned because usual practise of a human being attending cellphone is same style as of speaking in front. Our hand and actions would there for the persons using the cellphone. This will have wrong siganalling for the fellow driving persons in a particular junctures. Hence the cellphone users in the driving should be punished without any justifications.
@weemam (13372)
2 Feb 07
Here in SCotland there has been a law passed and there is a heavy fine if you are caught driving with a mobile phone , but there as still some people crazy enough to keep on doing it , it is madness and so dangerous too xx
• United States
3 Feb 07
Hmm...how do we justify that law? Emergency personnel need their radios, phones but I think they should be made to use a head set. Same with cab drivers--they should be made to use headsets. Maybe CB radios should be equipped with some type of headset instead of a handset? Or have the buttons on the steering wheel for the CB instead of reaching for the handset(if that makes sense to anyone). I recently rented a car that had all the controls for the actual radio on the steering wheel and I LOVED it. With your experience, I would send a letter to your local congressman or the equivalent in Canada and tell them your experience. Back it up with statistics if you have it and bug the heck out of them and get your friends to do the same. Emergency personnel shouldn't be above the law. If I can't talk on my cell phone, why should they be able to? I mean how often would they be doing work or how often would they just be talking to their family?
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
Thank you! You're one of the rare few who actually followed the discussion and didn't just start talking about how much they agree with banning cellphones. My husband is a cab driver, he's mentioned the same thing, that they should have the controls for their radio on the steering wheel itself. Although that would definately cut down on the distraction, since they're using two hands to drive, I still worry about the distraction of just talking on the radio. I wonder why it's too much to ask that they pull over, as regular citizens are now expected to do. Thanks for the response :)
@kerbausama (1335)
• Malaysia
3 Feb 07
of course it worth.driving while on the phone are dangerous to himself but also others life. ..
• United States
3 Feb 07
I too believe that is a good idea to ban driving with cell phones, that might reduce some of the accidents on the roads.
• India
3 Feb 07
yaa if any urgent call coming then stop driving n talk with friend ofter completing the call starting driving its essential for redusing accidents.
@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
3 Feb 07
I think what you are trying to say is stop the double standard. There is one law for the public and one law for the shall we call them public service employees. (fireman, police, ambulance driver, etc.) I don't think a cab driver would be exempt from the law though. I am sorry to say that out government has always been like this. If you check the emition test that is done in some states. This is where a car goes in to a center and has a machine attached to their car to make sure it is not putting out too much emitions or pollution. Public vehicles are not subject to this test. There is a double standard with all laws in one way or the other.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
Cab drivers are most definately exempt from the law, that was my original purpose in starting this discussion. The double standard is the point, as I mentioned in the original post. I'm getting the feeling many didn't bother to read it before responding in the first place, so I thank you for taking the time to do it. Yes, there has always been government exemptions ... the do as I say, not as I do philosophy, but this one just irks me more than most, likely because of the accident the other night. It could have been much worse than it was, all because the cab driver was distracted by his radio. Not to come off as a whiny teenager with their token response, but it's just not fair. The danger is still present on the roads when you make exemptions like this. Thanks for the response :)
• Philippines
3 Feb 07
hope your son gets better soon. Accidents happen anytime anywhere. YOu can't blame everything on the poor driver. Most people getting into a vehicular accident are those without anything to preoccupy themselves while doing their mechanical job. Think about issues that should left at home or someplace else is more dangerous than anything else, more than the radios, cell phones, etc. Of course I'm not supporting cell phone use on the road. There are cell phone etiquette and laws being enforced in the US so that should at least reduce risk of road accidents.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
Excuse me? I can't blame the "poor" driver for not watching the road, and instead fiddling with his radio, for paying attention to that instead of the road, while he had 2 passengers in the car, one of which is a child?? You're damn right I can blame him. The cops sure as hell blamed him, as did the cab company who fired him. Are you kidding me?? When is it okay to blame the driver, by the way? Had my son been hosptitalized or crippled, would I be able to blame him then? Geezus.
• Grand Junction, Colorado
2 Feb 07
First let me start off by saying how sorry I am that you were in an accident, that could have been avoided had someone you intrusted your safety with, been paying attention. Glad that you both are okay as it could have been so much worse. Now let me say, I can't agree more with you. I see people constantly on their cell phones not paying attention to what they are doing. One of the biggest things that I have noticed is they don't drive the speed limit usually way under the posted limit. They don't stay in their lane either. I really don't know what the solution is to this problem, I do have a few suggestions though, one pulling over to the side of the road and taking the call or two would be to have a headset. I have noticed that people using a headset seem to be much more aware of their surroundings as they still have both hands on the wheel. I know that we have several cities and areas where cell phone use in your cars is illegal unless you are using a headset. I believe that a new law for the state of California goes into affect in January of 2008 and that will ban cell phone use unless a headset is used for everyone except law inforcement officials and TRUCK DRIVERS. The truck driver thing has me greatly concerned. They have a much larger vehicle to control and shouldn't be allowed to use a cell phone unless using a headset also. They can inflect so much more damage than a vehicle can. Some laws just don't seem like they are very well thought out. That's my 2 cents on this issue. Good luck to you here at mylot!
• Grand Junction, Colorado
4 Feb 07
Thank you so much for the best response. Have a wonderful evening and a bettter tomorrow. Congradulations on such an awesome response to your discussion. I could learn much from you! :) Good luck here at mylot!
• United States
3 Feb 07
Emergency vehicles will always have that right because they need to attend to calls all the time. But as to other people, they won't listen at all. In california and new york, it's against the law to talk on your cell phone but people do it anyway.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
Didn't read through the posts, did you. No, it's not illegal in California ... the law doesn't take effect until January of 2008. Emergency vehicles can equip two people in the vehicle, as police have done and continue to do .. one to drive, one to play with the radio. Cab drivers are exempt from this law as well, for some unclear reason, since they aren't emergency vehicles. Yet they can be just as distracted by thier radio.
• United States
3 Feb 07
I think there are VALID reasons to use a cell phone. An emergency at home, or in the car, etc. But sometimes people just sit there yacking it up and NOT paying attention. I see the idiot drivers who go too slow, too fast, do stupid things. ITS a good cause for accidents. Then again people also eat while driving, do makeup, and other things all can be a distraction. Get off doing those things, keep your eye on the road people! But a law I have heard even here in California about such laws but has anything ever really passed? I think it would be a good idea for those people who just chat while driving. Its not just dangerous, its terribly annoying!
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
3 Feb 07
Yes, those laws have passed, thats why California is instating it as of Jan '08 ... because the law was already passed. There are other states that have done the same, some already in effect. Unfortunately, I'm in Canada, and no such law has been passed in our provinces yet. Unfortunately.
• India
4 Feb 07
I think this is good idea if it come into implementation so that many people are saved from accidents.
• Brazil
4 Feb 07
I agree.,it's a good law. I for example, doesn't pay attention in the streets when I'm talking on the cellphone
• United States
3 Feb 07
I am so sick of people driving and talking on their phones, I feel it should be banned I know this is some kind of civil right or something whatever I don't really care. I used to be a smoker and Now I am not allowed to smoke anywhere in the state of Arizona because it affects other people so I quit, Now other people taking on their cell phones is affecting me and causing accidents, so they need to pass a law that you cannot do that either. If you have to use your cell for your job pull over ...... Common sense people
@mnksmommy (301)
• United States
3 Feb 07
I am sorry about your accident! If they ban cell phone use while driving, tvs/dvds, game systems, and even navigation systems should be banned. These are all distractions....even the radio like you said.
@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
24 Sep 07
Our country has one also banning drivers to use cp while driving. It is for the protection of the driver and the passengers. As to those emergency cases they must be given exemption. I noticed also those cab having their radios for easy monitoring. My suggestion is that the radio be a handsfree one such that when there are calls he has just to push and button and then go. Sorry to hear about your near accident. We also experienced the same.
@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
24 Sep 07
Our country has one also banning drivers to use cp while driving. It is for the protection of the driver and the passengers. As to those emergency cases they must be given exemption. I noticed also those cab having their radios for easy monitoring. My suggestion is that the radio be a handsfree one such that when there are calls he has just to push and button and then go. Sorry to hear about your near accident. We also experienced the same.