Doctors who don't beleive in antibiotics..

@all4ucnc (861)
United States
March 1, 2007 12:05pm CST
My son has an infection in his tooth, from a recent rootcanal he had done...he's 5....I took him into the emergency to get him started on antibiotics, the doctor told me that he didn't beleive in antibiotics, because they don't work. I was outraged, and filed a complaint...The doctor actually then called me AT HOME. To yell at me about how HE was the one who went to medical school not me. I yelled back,you don't mess with a mother bears cubs....then I called the hospital back and talked to the Hospital Head of Directors. He said that was Not protocol, and asked if I'd like to file another complaint....Hell Yeah I want to file another complaint. This was not my first encounter with this doctor, my husband went in for an ear infection one night after work, and was told that antibiotics wouldn't help and that it would just go away. My husband fell to the ground during a dizzy spell 2 weeks after that. I got him in to our family doctor and was given antibiotics and is now well.. My son suffers from broncitis, and asthma, so he doesn't just get the common cold. If he gets sick it goes right for the lungs and his cough is that of a smoker, it's bad, so if he gets sick we have to get him on antibiotics right away, otherwise he gets to coughing so hard he throws up..Why let your child go through that..So I took him through emergency one night because he was hacking all night and running a fever....That doctor told me he had the common cold and refused to give him antibiotics... So I feel it's time to get a real doctor in there that will help those who go through emergency...Have you even come across a doctor who did not beleive in antibiotics?
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25 responses
• United States
1 Mar 07
sounds to me like that man has no right being a Doctor! i have had problems before where the dr.s wouldnt perscribe my son some antibiotics (he had bronchitus) and i was soo mad! my son was barely 1 year old, and having bronchitus that young can do serious damage! anyways as far as him not perscribing anti biotics to your husband for his ear infection OMGs! doesnt he know that ear infections can make u go deaf!!! anti biotics work just fine, as long as they arent taken all the time! this guy needs to get fired and lose his DR title!
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
Was your son viral or bacterial. My son was a premature birth and has had lung problems his while life. Viral infections can't be treated by antibiotics. RSV can kill but guess what viral, my son had it at 3 months old. Bronchitis several times before he was 2 years old. Its scary and hard to hear when the doctors say there is nothing they can do but sometimes they just have to wait like the rest of us.
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• United States
2 Mar 07
well the dr had said it was a virus going around.. my son had actually cought it from my friends kids who had seen the same dr the day before (which is how i knew my son had bronchitus).. the dr perscribed her whole family anti biotics, and theirs cleared up very fast.. my son me and my mom were left with high fevers, severe cough, and major congestion for months!
@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
2 Mar 07
I know bronchitis sucks the last time i had it I couldn't even walk from the bed to the bathroom (6 feet) my mother-in-law spent 4 weeks caring for us all. My husband had to carry my around because just standing up put me to sleep for 10 hours. The thing is some bronchitis is viral and some bacterial and only the bacterial can be treated with antibiotics and it is pointless to take them if it's viral. There are things that you can take to help with the symptoms but that is all you can do.
1 Mar 07
That is bizarre! Not to mention negligent. I've never heard of such a thing. If your son had an infection, he needs to be treated. I'm glad to hear you didn't allow that quack to intimidate you. Take the complaints as far as you can. I can't believe he had the gall to harrass you in your own home. Unbelievable!
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@all4ucnc (861)
• United States
1 Mar 07
He ignored my husbands ear infection. Yeah I don't take well to being belittled...Especially when your child can't get into his normal doctor (flu season the appointment was a week away). He was white as a ghost, freezing, yet running a temperature, and his gums froma root canal done almost 2 weeks prior was red and swollen and causing alot of pain. ANd the ER doctor tells him it's probably infected, but I don't beleive in antibiotics..I was floored. THen I get home and he calls me. So I am calling everyone I can to have this manner taken care of.
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1 Mar 07
The fact that he endangered your son scares me most. At that age they are too vulnerable to risk such a thing.
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1 Mar 07
I don't blame you. Best of luck getting a favourable resolution to this situation and best wishes to your son getting well soon!
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@kittles (156)
1 Mar 07
Some doctors don't like giving antibiotics as it can make the body too familiar to it and when they badly need it for something very serious it dosn't work- and theres doctors that will hand you antibiotics like candy I think they shouldn't give them out too freely but however I think he shouldn't have told you he knows better than you, he could have explained why he didn't think it was nessesary rather than just be rude.
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
I don't get why you waited until he was shivering and in that much trouble. His tooth would have been a problem before then, infections that serious don't show up over night.
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@all4ucnc (861)
• United States
2 Mar 07
He didn't start complaining until he got up that morning, and our family doctor couldn't get him in for a week. So I took him through emergency. So maybe the infection has been stirring for a while, but he didn't complain.
@ralevi (1887)
• United States
1 Mar 07
So, if you don't like your doctor just change it. I don't know what is the problem.
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@all4ucnc (861)
• United States
1 Mar 07
The problem is, the emergency doctor. If you go in with an emergency you expect to get some help!
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• United States
2 Mar 07
Not only that, just because he doesn't personally believe in it, if its a bacterial infection from a root canal, an antibiotic can help. He might need to dust off his medical books and read them. I understand that some doctors have over used antibiotics to the point they won't work for some people. They are trying not to use them for ear infections now. His attitude makes me think that if you wanted to have a quick prayer...and he wouldn't allow you to because he doesn't believe in God. All he has to do as a doctor is provide you with the facts and allow YOU as the parent to make an intelligent decision.
• United States
1 Mar 07
I don't know what you're case is, but I know some doctors are against using antibiotics right away because you'll just end up building a immunity to them and you'll run the risk of getting a worse infection later on.
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
First antibiotics should never be abused lots of times infections can be treated without them. Second viral bronchitis can't be treated with antibiotics and bronchitis from colds is viral, you just have to suffer through and if it becomes bacterial then it can be treated. I know this for a fact because I get bronchitis regularly and so does my father and grandmother. Asthma can't be helped with antibiotics and neither can the common cold. Viruses are not affected by antibiotics and have to be treated differently or just left to run their course. The over use of antibiotics is the cause of super viruses and bugs and that is why a lot of doctors are going away from giving them out like candy. The does not excuse the doctor for calling you at home. He should not have done that. By all means you as the mother and wife know when your family needs medical help for the things ailing them and doctors need to take that seriously. You know when your loved ones are sick and need help but a lot of the time antibiotics aren't the answer and maybe you should seek alternative treatment for some things.
@KrisNY (7609)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I hate to say this- but more and more doctors are pushing less antibiotics... It drives me crazy! I took my daughter to the doctor just this tuesday- She has been around my friend who was just diagnosed with bronchitis.. My daughter has been coughing so violently that I swear she will bring up her tonsils! Needless to say the doctor told me it would get better- If she wasn't better by monday to bring her back. No medicine! I was miffed.. I talked to another doctor on the way out- They know our history-- I am prone to sinus infections as well.. This doctor wrote us a prescription. I take my daughter to where there are 5 doctors.. I love the place-- This was the first time we had seen the doctor who wouldn't write the prescription. I won't see her again! so yes I see it and I think it is only going to get worse.
• United States
2 Mar 07
Well I am shocked at the doctor too! No way would I take that off 'em.You were right to file a complaint.That doctor is a "quack". I cannot believe this actually happened to you...I would have done the same thing.You should see about getting his license pulled...check with your state medical board! (good luck mama bear!...only a fool messes with a mother bears cub!)
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• Canada
1 Mar 07
Thats absolutely CRAZY! Is this guy out of his tiny freaking mind?? Infections can KILL if left untreated! You did exactly the right thing in making another complaint and I would have done exactly the same. If that Doctor at the hospital believes that Antibiotics don't work, then he's DEFINITELY in the wrong profession. He deserves to be fired from his position immediately. I wonder how many more people have been given the same kind of dismissive treatment by him? I hope you get this sorted soon.
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@eicher (511)
• France
1 Mar 07
I don't understand why you take your son into the emergency: if he has a tooth infection, a dentist will be more qualified... and it is similar for bronchitis: no need to go to emergency, just to a general practitioner Instead of spending your time in the hospital, you should consult a lung specialist who will find a solution for your son's bronchitis and asthma problem I agree with this doctor: you did not study medecine In France we say that "antibiotics it is not automatic"
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• China
1 Mar 07
Also is the medicine ,did not understand ,also did not know how said ,to the medicine ,is not understands very much
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@seamonkey (1982)
• Ireland
23 Mar 07
Well, a doctor that doesn't believe in antibiotics for a bacterial infection isn't offering you all the available options. The trouble is trying to determine whether it is viral or bacterial and whether to wait for the lab results or just prescribe the antibiotic. Sometimes the doctor has a good idea whether it is viral or bacterial. For instance, my son had an ear infection in one ear. The doctor didn't bother with cultures, and explained his rationale when he gave us the prescription. He said that if it is viral the infection will often be in both ears, and the opposite is true if the infection is bacterial. I guess that's why it is a good idea to have an experienced doctor you can trust. I personally try to avoid antibiotics and save them in case we will really need them. I haven't had any in over 20 years, and one kid was 7 and the other 10 before they ever had any. Each of my children has only used them once. I think it's important to fight this stuff off yourself, if you can.
@mrsbrian (1951)
• United States
2 Mar 07
i wonder why you have not contacted the dentist that did the work, i think that would have been my first stop. i like you have had a few problems with er visits, im glad u spoke out for yourself and turned this dr in, i would have done the same.
• United States
2 Mar 07
I dont see how this doctor can be allowed to be completely against antibiotics like that , that's crazy ... But at the same time most people don't realize that antibiotics sre only used to treat bacterial infections and they will not treat a viral infection at all ...
@anij34 (317)
• United States
2 Mar 07
At my daughters Pediatricians office there are two doctors and they each have their own P.A. Her personal Ped. Dr W., is awesome, so is the assistant, Larry. They are awesome, my daughter is on antibiotics every 3-4 months because her body doesn't have the ability to fight infections. (Low white cells...sort of like Leukemia but not lethal). The other Dr is terrible and so is his P.A. they have both missed severe ear infections that my daughter had gone in for. The very next day I was able to have her own Ped look at her and say how horrible the ear infection is. She had just been there the day before, there was no way for that infection to get that bad overnight. My daughter has a revolving door with her Ped when it comes to antibiotics. Certain one's don't work for her (like Amox) but other ones work great. Now, I refuse to bring her in unless she can see her own Ped or his P.A. I do believe that some doctors are simply ignorant.
@acquaria (719)
• Italy
2 Mar 07
I suggest you to change your doctor.I know doctors that belive in in antibiotics but they don't prefer them so much.
@Mamaof2 (574)
• Canada
2 Mar 07
That is crazy. I know that doctors try to stay away from giving antibiotics often...but if it is needed they should give it to you. Who cares what they believe in, I believe that sometimes an anitbiotic is the only thing that helps. I know first had, as my son has major ear problems and requires an antibiotic one a month. If it is left, which we have tried to see if it will go away on its own.... he gets in so much pain that the hospital has to give him codeen. So whats the point of that. I would file a complaint and then go in search for another doctor! My friends doc is like that for her son. Doesn't like giving medicine, nor the chicken pox needle and such. Altho he does not agree with it, she always has the option and it is her decision in the end. Good Luck!
@karank63 (21)
• India
2 Mar 07
doctors they are the best stupid in the world like this what happens to me i am indian before an year in delhi in rajivghandi cancer institute's doctors says to me that i have a blood cancer they have not done my bonemarrow they have not done my proper tests only one proof they started my treatment chemo therapy but after first injection when they see that how can my platlets can increase it's all the god safe's he safe then the doctors done my marror tests what happen then in results there is no cancer what the stupid doctor's are they his name is dr.d.c.doval stupid's then also they have started my threapy by saying that i dont have cancer but you have to continue the treatment say why should i do my treatment if i dont have the cancer. they only say this because they were frighten of court's law n order because they new that now i will do case against them that why they have told me that i am having cancer. stupid fools banchod ........
• United States
2 Mar 07
See that right there is a doctor that is too closed-minded to realize that the facts are, antibiotics are proven to help. Its simply health. He should not be allowed to reject patients for antibiotics, that is the only thing that can help people in some situations. I'd bring the attention of this doctor's unprofessionalism to neighbors and friends and family. If word is out enough, something will stop him from continueing to treat patients with his opinion.
@mrbranan (1012)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I have never heard of a doctor that refused to give you antibiotics. That is just stupid. I don't care what kind of degree you have common sence tells you if you have an infection you need antibiotics. I don't blame you I would have filed a complaint to. And how fare he call you at home and say anything after he waas the one that messed up.