Christianity has Pagan DNA

@ljcapps (1927)
United States
March 2, 2007 9:26pm CST
I came across this bumper sticker today. Now, i know what i think about this, and i'll share it with you as i get replies (hopefully) but what do you think of that little sentence?
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@brokentia (10396)
• United States
3 Mar 07
I believe this to be true. There are many Christian holidays that include Pagan practice. Why do Christmas have a Evergreen tree? Because the manager had a tree in it? No...because in Pagan religion, they brought the Evergreen tree into their house at the start of winter (Winter Solstice/Yule) to welcome the God and Goddess into their home during the cold and bare months. Why color eggs for Easter? Well, the Pagan ways the egg represented the start of a birth cycle. In the spring (Spring Solstice/Ostara), eggs were searched for as food because that was when the eggs were being laid. But the Spring is also a celebration of life waking and growing again. Starting a new life and cycle. Well...this is also when Christianity claims that Jesus came back to life. OK...I am really not trying to offend ANYONE here. So please, do not take offense and I am not intending it to be offensive. Pagans followed their faith and when Christianity movement came...those that did not follow were punished. They were shunned from the city dwelling...hence, the "country-dweller" definition. And to get Pagans to adopt and accept the new faith, their celebrations were catered to be about the same time and almost the same meaning...but with God or Jesus instead. The evil of hell and fire and brimstone was introduced to scare people to believe this is what would happen to them if they did not convert. So, out of fear and being a social outcast, many did convert. I could go on and on...but the point is...yes, Christianity does have Pagan DNA. And my bumper sticker reads, "Get a taste of religion, Lick a witch." LOL
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
3 Mar 07
LOL i love the bumper sticker. although there's one that says I found Jesus, He was in the couch cushions with the remote. I don't want to offend christians, because i believe that every religion should be respected, i just wonder at all of the people out there, who don't know really where their religion came from. I've found that it's truly the most ignorant of their religion that are the most loud when it comes to denouncing others. The ones who understand the history of what they believe, and accept the discrepancies are the true religious to me. They see the discrepancies, and they have faith anyway. But yes, i do agree it's funny how christianity was introduced into the world using paganism.
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• United States
4 Mar 07
Guess I'm one of them cause I have tried as much as possible to learn the origins of different things in Christianity and I am still a Christian regardless. I don't base my faith in the rituals but in God himself.
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
5 Mar 07
See, and that's exactly what i mean. It's the people who understand where their religion came from, and understand what the religion truly means. To me, that's true faith. So, yeah! that you want to learn where your religion comes from.
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@manong05 (5030)
• Philippines
17 Mar 07
The true essence of Christianity is following Christ and it has got nothing to do with paganism. However, the so called Christianity nowadays are nothing but veiled paganism, not only DNA but actually, Christianized paganism. Pagan deities are given christian names, pagan practices were christened and absorbed in christian liturgies. It is nothing more than paganism taking up a new name. That being said, there are true followers of Christ who obey Him as Lord of their lives and seek to glorify God in whatever they do. This has nothing to do with religion but a personal faith in God.
@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
22 Mar 07
I agree with you. The true essence of Christianity is following christ. However, in the days when they were trying to make christianity popular, and force people into following it they did use pagan holidays and pagan gods to make people swallow it a little bit easier. I say kudos to you for understanding your religion and being able to look at modern and not so modern religions without ignorance.
@emeraldisle (13158)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Actually I love it. It is very true. So many of the traditions taken on by Christians are based off Pagan ones. They adopted them to make it easier to try and convert Pagans over. Also it was much harder for Pagans to celebrate at night and show up at church the next morning during the time when persecutions went on. This way they had to make the choice. One reason so many of the Christian holidays fall the next morning of a Pagan Holiday. I would love to have that sticker actually :) Who ever made it up obviously knew their religious history.
@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
3 Mar 07
LOL my wife bought it for me. And you are completely right. It's why God or Jesus typically look like Zeuss, why Christmas falls on Yule, so many of the holidays..... send me a message and i'll send you the website where we got it. Thanks for replying!
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@MySpot (2602)
• United States
17 Mar 07
I found this article that I thought you'd enjoy. If I were religious, I'd have to say I'm Gnostic, not to be confused with Agnostic! I would proudly drive around with that bumper sticker but I saw one I liked even better that reads, "My Karma Ran Over Your Dogma!". Pagan Roots in Earliest Christianity article originally titled: A Short History of Gnosticism http://www.northernway.org/pagandna.html
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
22 Mar 07
Thank you for posting that article! I appreciate it. And actually i'm going to pat myself on the back a bit here, because i knew a lot of that already. Mostly because of my wife. But i'm glad it's there now for other people who might be interested. And there is a HUGE difference between Gnostic and Agnostic. LOL i would never try to confuse the two. And i've seen that bumper sticker you're talking about, the my karma ran over your dogma. I loved it then, i love it now.
@azriel (2108)
• Philippines
14 Mar 07
Well its true. Christian traditions have their roots in Paganism. There are a lot of reasons for these, but mainly to be easy for the missionaries to convert Pagans to Christianity and to avoid persecution. Most of the Christians today knows about the history of their religion, so I guess statements like these will be understood by those concerned.
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
15 Mar 07
Actually, the sad thing is, is a lot of the christians around here want to deny is vehemently. I think the more a person knows about their chosen religion, the better. but a lot of them don't want anything to do with paganism, not realizing that's where a lot of the holidays and dates come from in their own religion.
• United States
4 Mar 07
Well it is pretty accurate to some extent. It gained its Pagan DNA primarily through emporer Constantine - a pagan that adopted Christianity as the national religion of Rome (the start of the Roman Catholic religion). He added pagan rituals and such to Christianity to attract more Pagans to the mix. I think he was trying to continue honoring his pagan roots and kinda snuck it in.
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
5 Mar 07
Ah, Constantine was a very smart man. He saw the way that the religion "winds" were blowing, and accepted that to keep his empire together he would have to convert to christianity, while he still secretly continued pagan practices and incorporated them into the christian. Although it's also told that he was converted to christianity against his will on his deathbed. Who knows? All we can do is accept what is today, and try to understand where it came from. so many things are lost and changed through the passage of time, that we just can't really know.
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@starr4all (2865)
3 Mar 07
Cool bumpersticker! I find that it's true. Christianity got most of it's basing off of paganistic religions. In order to assimilate more pagans, they had to do this.
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@ljcapps (1927)
• United States
5 Mar 07
They did. It was easier to convert people to a new religion as long as it was similiar to the old. It's the same way now, people in large groups do not accept change easily, even when it's very similiar to the old. I've seen that time and time again. I work at a place where 7,000 other people work at throughout the day, and the uproar when something major is changed, is amazing. And kind of discouraging, too.
@sororravn (449)
• United States
16 Mar 07
I completely agree with this statement. In fact, it was the Jehovah Witnesses who first noticed that the Christmas trees were pagan phallic symbols. This is one of the reasons that they do not celebrate any holidays. When the early xtian church was trying to make its mark on the world, one thing that they did was to make their holidays coincide with the holidays of the pagan peoples that they had conquered. This way, they people would be more willing to accept their worldview.
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