Why christians eat Pork, if the Bible prohibits the consumption of pork.

@irkhan (80)
India
March 15, 2007 2:00am CST
See the verses of Bible below. The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you”. “Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8] Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy “And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.” [Deuteronomy 14:8] A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5. The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc.
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@mobyfriend (1019)
• Netherlands
15 Mar 07
Those diet laws are for the Jews. On this they base their kosher lifestyle. Non-jews are not requiered to follow these rules. Personally I don't eat meat or fish. You can get diseases from several varieties of meat (think of the birdflu or mad cow's disease).
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• United States
15 Mar 07
Show us in scripture where it says these Laws were ONLY for the Jews. AND WHERE it says that GENTILES (non Jews)AREN'T required to abide by these Laws. The reason those Laws were given to Israel ALONE at that time, was BECAUSE they were the ONLY ONES at that time, considered as God's CHOSEN people. And these are God's Laws! Not Israel's! But God gives HIS Laws to His people! And now ALL of God's TRUE followers (Jews & Gentiles) must still abide by HIS (God's)Laws!
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• Netherlands
17 Mar 07
Hey I knew that Jesus was a Jew when he lived here on earth. Don't get me wrong. Wait I mean to say thst the law has ended by Jesus' sacrifice. We now live in a state of grace. In fact the letter to the Galatians is based on the fact the some followers of Christ were confusing others by using the jewish law as a method to come to Jesus. While Jesus said that you only have to come to Him to know the Father. Laying the law on people will form obstacles for believers. What we now got in turn is a spirit of love, power and sound mind. The two most important 'laws' we have to follow are to Love God with whole your heart and to love your neighbour as yourself. In fact the comple Ten Commandmends are enclosed in these 2 "laws' If you really believe that as a follower of Christ you have to follow the complete jewish law I wish you luck. There are about 632 prohibtions to follow. Don't tell me you don't eat icecream after your steak because that is absolutely forbidden.
@Jemina (5783)
15 Mar 07
I think the reason why Christians eat pork is because they are not real Christians and they choose what to believe or follow in the Bible--Things that fit their desire. I am a Christian and I don't eat pork. But I'm not implying that I'm perfect. I know and I admit that I err so many times and struggling to be like Jesus.
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• United States
15 Mar 07
I totally agree with you! Well said!
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
15 Mar 07
Ummm, hmm. This post thoroughly offends me because I don't think to eat pork or not to eat pork is big part of Christianity. Being a Christian is about accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Not giving up pork for life. I don't even eat pork, but it's not because I'm not 'supposed' to...I don't eat it because I don't like it. But if I did eat it..I'd still be a Christian. Just like the Bible says people should remain virgins until they are married...but if they don't, it doesn't mean they aren't a Christian, it means they sinned...and sins are forgiven. I really don't think God's going to play a movie reel of my eating a piece of bacon and ask me to explain.
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15 Mar 07
I have to agree with mkirby, though I'm not going to take offence at your presumption that Christians who eat pork are not real Christians because I do not believe that your choice of diet reflects on your Christian faith - I simply believe that to be a Christian, you must believe in Christ, and in his sacrifice. I Corinthians 10:25 "Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, 'The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it'".
• United States
15 Mar 07
In the New Testament all foods were declared clean.
@Jemina (5783)
15 Mar 07
BC, the new testament says, "What god has cleaned thou shall not call unclean" but it did not specifically referred to food or animals. Besides, Paul didn't kill and eat any of those animals in his dream.
• United States
15 Mar 07
Please show a reference showing us that in the NT ALL meats were declared clean.
@Kaeli72 (1230)
• United States
15 Mar 07
Ok...let's picture this: If you made a meal for your family and knew someone would get sick from it, would you serve it to everyone or would you not? If you told that someone, "You can't eat this because it's not good for you" yet, they ignore you and eat it anyways, how would you feel? That's how G-d feels. Just because he made the animals does not mean he wants you to eat them. The unclean creatures are garbage eaters. Their meat becomes what they eat. A pig eats doo doo and could eat a snake...and their meat becomes doo doo and the posionous snake. A cow chews the cud over and over and over again, thus ridding the toxins out of the body so her meat is safe to eat. Also, when the NT says the word "meat", it's not just talking about everyday steaks and pork chops. You need to go to the roots of a word. That would be the Greek. Translated, the word "meat" refers to the Jewish diet.
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@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
15 Mar 07
Leviticus is in the Old Testament. Christians follow the New Testament mostly, when most 'laws' of the Old Testament were "abolished" so to speak. The Jewish mostly follow the Old Testament, which is why they don't eat pork.
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• United States
15 Mar 07
Everybody is always saying that! Just show us ONE reference in the NT where the Forbidden meat laws were abolished. Just one. And I agree, MANY laws were done away with- but these for the most part, were the ceremonial and ritualistic laws. Unclean animals WERE CREATED UNCLEAN! God has not re-created them to a CLEAN status. The New Testament proves there are still UNCLEAN animals to the very end of the age. Please see: http://biblepapers.blogspot.com Regards
• United States
15 Mar 07
I'm sorry, but you can keep your post with "mature" content in them to yourself, as I don't have the slightest interest in them. All that shows is just what's in your heart! Regards
• United States
16 Mar 07
mkirby, I'm loving your comments.
@xParanoiax (6998)
• United States
15 Mar 07
I thought alot of the old testament rules were declared defunct 'cause of the new testament. But then I'm not christian or vegetarian so this doesn't really apply to me. Meat isn't the only thing which -can- carry diseases. Fruits and vegetables can as well, you might recall that many companies have to spray bananas to keep tarantulas and other crawling things away from the fruit, other sprays on apple trees to keep away insects which eat and can kill the tree, etc..and any field of corn on the side of the highway is subject to the fumes of the cars. It's usually better to raise your own lifestock and grow your own garden these days -- but even then you have to be careful 'cause some seeds have been treated with chemicals. So no, nothing in this world is safe, especially not food. But who cares? We all have to die sometime..all we can do is live the way we think is best.
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• United States
15 Mar 07
Yes, some of the old ceremonial and ritualistic ways were done away with. But one must be extremely careful when it comes to what actually has. Usually folks just pick and choose whatever appears to suit their lifestyle. Of course, that's not the way to do it. Regards
@Kaeli72 (1230)
• United States
15 Mar 07
Don't think of the Laws (some of them) as "done away with", they're just on hold because there is no Temple built.
• United States
15 Mar 07
Jesus didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Those parts that have been fulfilled, such as the Passover sacrifice, are no longer in effect. Once something has been fulfilled you don't keep doing it (that would be like continuing to make car payments after you've paid it off). Those parts that are not yet fulfilled, such as the ultimate fulfillment of Rosh Hashana, I believe are still in effect.
• Portugal
15 Mar 07
I recently had a bible study with friend about this subject. We had just read the first verse in Genesis, and there is the part that God made the animals and the plants for maintanance of the Humans (Adam and Eve), not sure of the correct words, because we did it in Portuguese. We spoke about how God made rules according to the different People over the times, he made them for certain reasons, for their health maybe, maybe at the time there were sicknesses with certain foods he said weren't to be eaten. He did not only forbid pig to be eaten, but other animals too, why? God knows why, he had His reasons. At service we spoke about Jericho and how the people of Israel had to walk around the walls of Jericho for many days without saying a word and blowing on rams horns, and on the last day, after going round the walls many times, they were told to shout out loud and the walls fell down. God, in his mightyness did not need them to do all this, but he asked them to do this for a reason, He has His reasons in what he asks of His people and the rules he puts out. Like our pastor asked us, imagine what those people thought when the people of Israel walked round the walls everyday - "Oh, look, there they go again, haha!". All this to say that God has His reasons for giving out his rules and we should not worry about things like what we should or shouldn't eat, there are more important things that we should think of regarding our relationship with God, eating or not eating pork will not make us any more unworthy to be loved by such a great God.
• United States
15 Mar 07
You are absolutely right! ANY of God's TRUE followers ARE NOT supposed to eat the unclean meats! But as you can see by the responses, the masses are still confused! Satan has clearly succeeded in this clever deception to the point that he even has those under this dilusion eating the FEET of this disgusting animal! Not one person can show one single verse in the entire bible (in it's proper context) that implies that we ARE NOW allowed to eat any of the Forbidden Meats! They "MAY THINK" they have one. And it may appear that way on the surface. But when closely scrutinized- it's impossible to reconcile it with the rest of the bible. An important factor to consider is that the bible WON'T contradict the bible! So ALL of the facts must be in complete harmony from Genesis to Revelation. Millions are confused due to Paul's writings! Especially the book of Romans chapter 14. Please take a look at this article in regards to Romans 14, that sets the record straight. Regards http://biblepapers.blogspot.com
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
15 Mar 07
I'm not normally one to bash anyone's beliefs, but your idea that you're more of a Christian than I am because I ate bacon as a child is ridiculous. God is not going to punish me for eating pork. Seriously. You're a bit obsessed, I think. God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.
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• United States
15 Mar 07
Oh Please, don't get me wrong! I'm not implying that I'm more of a christian than anyone else here. No, no- I'm really sorry. I don't mean to come across that way. Listen, I too have eaten pork before. And you know what, it tastes really good! But when I became a Christian and started studying the Bible it shocked me to realize that just about everything I had been taught before, was not up to the biblical standards. We have only one guide here to go by- and that's the Bible. RIGHT? And I, for one, am not going to compromise any of its truths, nor do I feel it is necessary to apologize to anyone because of what's written in it. I didn't write it! Again, I ask, just show one reference in the NT where it says that we are now allowed to eat unclean meats. Just one. You are so adamant that it's there, then please show us. And please don't mistake my passion for the word of God- The Bible, for being nuts. You're confused.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
16 Mar 07
I was never being adamant that it was there. I am being adamant about the fact that Christianity is based upon becoming born again and cleansed of your sins by the blood of Jesus Christ when he becomes your Savior. I think that is the only factor of Christianity that determines your status as a Christian. Like I have said in other posts I made on here, many things we do everyday are sinful, and if pork is in fact something unclean that we should not eat, then it is the same as many other sins that we, as humans, commit every day. I think there are a lot worse things I could do. Also, according to all of this, are shellfish unclean as well? I'll go ahead and say I'm not giving up my crawfish.
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@Lindalinda (4112)
• Canada
15 Mar 07
The bible says many things and was written by people thousands of years ago. At that time there was no refrigeration to preserve meat for any amount of time. If you go by the bible you can also not eat meat and milk together. So Jewish people will not eat cheeseburgers, meat lasagna, tacos and other foods where meat and cheese is combined. The first Christians although they were Jews decided it was o.k. to eat pork. Whether it came to them in dreams or sayings I don't know. Anyway, as far as pork is concerned, at least in Western Countries it is raised virtually worm free. Pigs are raised on farms, given certain foods, and when butchered pork as all meat has to be inspected and refrigerated before sold. Wormy pork is not allowed to be sold. Myself, I usually don't eat pork unless it is served where it would be rude to refuse it, but when I eat it I am not worried about diseases. As you know, chicken, sheep and cows can also carry terrible diseases. So the thing is not to worry about the bible but whether or not the animals are raised properly and disease free, are given the correct foods nd stored in sanitary conditions once they are slaughtered.
• United States
15 Mar 07
Actually it isn't in regards to a "diet,health" thing as many assume. But more to an "UNCLEAN and DEFILEMENT" thing and keeping thyself "HOLY." Sorry that I don't have Copy and PASTE yet, but read and compare the following: Lev.11:43-47 1 Cor. 3:16-17 1 Cor. 6:19-20 For a little more check out the following link. Regards http://biblepapers.blogspot.com
• United States
15 Mar 07
Ok, I have to comment to this one. Pigs are by no means clean animals. They roll in muck (which contains pig droppings), especially in summer months when it is hot. As for slaughter house conditions, that too is reported to be problematic, unless a farm (there are a few where I come from) that slaughter the meat. I won't get into the specifics on slaughter, but its not pretty and prolly not ok to post here anyways.
@mkirby624 (1599)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Chickens walk around in their own crap. No slaugher houses are pretty.
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@garyeye (202)
• Philippines
15 Mar 07
It is true that for health reasons pork is not suitable for consumption. But for it being unclean and Christians are prohibited to eat it, in the New Testament Jesus says that " it's not what goes into the mouth but what comes out of it that makes it unclean" (Mathew 15:11).
• United States
15 Mar 07
Sorry for posting twice- I'm not sure how I manged to do that....
@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Because times change, and so do beliefs - and some Christians choose not to obey useless and obsolete religious laws.
• United States
16 Mar 07
People may change but God and His Word don't. Just because people have chosen not to do as God has written doesn't mean that He has changed His mind about it. And, Christians who change or "interpret" the Bible to fit what they have decided to go along with will be held accountable for it. Times and beliefs changing in people have nothing to do with how God will judge when you go before Him. He will judge you based on the laws He set down not on what you decided to believe.
@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
18 Mar 07
God wrote nothing; the Bible was written by men who claimed that God dictated his laws to them. However, the Bible has been in the hands of man for so long, and has gone through many cultures and translations, what makes you think that everything you read in the Bible today is the exact same way it was millenia ago? Like it or not, the Judeo-Christian religion is ever changing. Passages are added or left out based on the mentality of the time. Unless you were there when all the laws were written, and actually witnessed all that happened, you have no proof that the Bible is the word of God. You can only assume - and that is not enough.
@Kaeli72 (1230)
• United States
15 Mar 07
OH YES! YES! YES! Finally, someone else who brings up this taboo subject! Sorry, I was just a tad bit excited when I read this. I too started a discussion here on myLot about the same thing, though I think I only got 2 responses. I was raised Catholic and heard all about how "Jesus cleaned everything" and yadda yadda yadda. If he did that, then why would his Father put down the Laws in the first place? You are more than welcome to go to my Yahoo! 360* blog page and hunt down my 6 blog segment of the evils of pork. I'm sure you'll enjoy it as it's a passionate subject of mine.
• United States
15 Mar 07
Hey Thanks! I'll definitley drop by. You too are welcome to see mine. I'm just starting it out- but will continue to add new material as I write it. So keep checking back. I'll check your profile for your blog address. In the meantime here is mine. Regards http://biblepapers.com
• United States
15 Mar 07
Sorry, that's why I need copy and paste! lol The actuall address is: http://biblepapers.blogspot.com
• United States
16 Mar 07
I do not go to church but i can tell you that this was written in the old testament of the Bible and in the new testament is says something different. It also says for you to change with the world and I think that this was why the new testament was written. It would probably be better to read the new testament and then go back and read the old. A lot of things had changed between the two books when Jesus suposedly came on this earth.
• United States
16 Mar 07
The New Testament does not tell people to change with the world. In fact, it says just the opposite. It says that Jesus came to complete the law of the Old Testament. And, as a Christian we are not supposed to live as the world does because the world turns to sin and whatever happens to feel good. The New Testament talks about fasting and denying the flesh and the world says to do whatever you want and whatever feels good. God is not a God of fleshly acts but of spiritual acts. He wants us living holy lives based on His Word. You need to go back and read the New Testament a few times because what you are saying completely contradicts what it says.
@Taskr36 (13924)
• United States
16 Mar 07
Dude, why would you condemn anyone with something so outdated. Eating pork was never called a sin, the bible simply said that it was unclean and you shouldn't eat it. The reason is that back then, you could get sick and die form pork. We have refrigerators , reynolds wrap, and George Foreman mini-grills. Pork is not only good, it's my favorite meat.
• Philippines
18 Mar 07
I agree to this 100%!!!
• United States
16 Mar 07
Christianity and religion are a joke. Everyone is a hypocrite.
@paulskie (246)
• Philippines
16 Mar 07
I agree on the 2nd sentence. lol. But I disagree on the first sentence though. :D
@paulskie (246)
• Philippines
15 Mar 07
And lo.. I can see no response from the thread starter. And he saw that it is good. lol
@paulskie (246)
• Philippines
16 Mar 07
Try to eat some cooked dog.. eating pork is too common. lol
@ReyM21 (281)
• Philippines
19 Mar 07
This is applicable/intended to Old Testament Jews. In the New Testament, it already cleaned if it's prayed for with thanksgiving. I suggest that pork should be cleansed and cooked well before serving it.
@kiwimac (324)
• New Zealand
19 Mar 07
In 1st Corinthians Paul says the following: "...Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the grounds of conscience. For "the Earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof." ... So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God..." Again Romans 14:32, Paul says " Everything (talking of food) is indeed clean" and he adds only one proviso " but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats." All food is clean for Christians.
• Philippines
18 Mar 07
For your information irkhan. The bible is divided into two testaments. The old and the new. Christianity should follow the new testament and there are a lot of commandments in the old testament that were replaced in the new testament. And the one that you mentioned is one of them. Christianity doesn't prohibit the consumption of pork except blood and food offered to other gods.
@n_nijaz (14)
• India
16 Mar 07
Port eating or not ,it doesn't matter.there are lots who eat foods that are forbidden in their holy book .It is the one who decide what to eat.
• Canada
16 Mar 07
Well... if God created the world and everything in it, I don't really think that he would say "This is unclean, no eating! No touching!" Why God? Did you make a mistake? Oops... sorry... pigs are just a bit flawed, let me try again to make something that is pure. A pig is an animal of God... Humans are an animal of God. Everything is made from God, and since he's the almighty being that can create and judge everything... then I think he would be a major hypocrite to create something so that he can call it "unclean". The Bible is a Book. It is not the devine law that everyone needs to follow upon 100% or they aren't religious. If this was the case... we'd all be going to Hell. And I wouldn't want to follow a God that would go out creating things and then calling them unclean and not worthy of people to eat them. I mean, what if somewhere down the line the Bible said "And women, whom are the bain of existance, are of lower stature than men. You should not listen to their ideas, nor feed their thirst for knowledge. You should force them to do nothing but cook and clean and bring up the kids. But make sure they don't come too close to your sons... because you wouldn't want them to be tainted by their evil womanly ways." I know there was a lot of paraphrasing done there... I'm just trying to point out, that if I were to write a book about religion, and have it passed down thousands of years through the generations... would someone take my "scripture" as sacred and to be followed at all costs, even when society clearly has changed? The God that I believe in is a fair and honest God, and if I "sin" then it's because that's the way that God made me. He controls things... and if it was my destiny to sin, then I'll sin. But I know that I will be forgiven should I ask for it, because that's what a God is to me. As for all the diseases that a person can get from pork... I'm still waiting on that. Good thing my God lets me have medical care when I need it too. I feel much more blessed then some of you may believe. Thank you and good night. (This is in no way an attack on anyone or their choices regarding their religion. I have been raised to see my God as the way that I do, and that is the way I intend to worship him, because that is the one that is in my heart. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to do what they want and feel what they want about "their" God.)