Children's rights.........what should we do?
March 16, 2007 1:36am CST
in the space of 1 month...there have been such awful happenings here. a 7yr old girl went missing and was found 2 weeks later in a drain pipe. 2 girls aged 14 and 4 were found in a cave in the mountains-they were hidden there for a year buy a rapist/abuser/thief. last week a 10yr old went missing. she was found 2 days later hidden in the ceiling of her home. in all these sad instances, it was either someone they knew or trusted or life just failed them. are failing our children? are we doing enough to protect them? what more can and should be done to protect our children.
• United States
16 Mar 07
This is such a difficult question because, on one hand, children should certainly be protected. Unfortunately this has not been a priority in the US (we haven't even signed the Children's bill of rights through the UN!) However, and this is the part where I sound cold and heartless, there are untold numbers of casualties of democracy. Many people say that we should step up protections and create a way to step in before a crime occurs, but is that really a democracy? People are going to die whether we have this government or one that is more progressive. Unfortunately it is a part of life and, as sad as it is, unavoidable.
17 Mar 07
If people hold attitudes of "we can't fix it" it will never be fixed as it minimises the vile act that is inflicted on our young and helpless, these acts on an adults have consequences where the penalties are nowhere near severe enough, but to minmise the infliction of these crimes being committed on the young leaves no doubt as to the morals of those minimising these acts! If you are offended by my comments then by all means clarify your blase comments, as democracy has little to do with moral correctness. It is only unavoidable if we give up! If we don't do anything then nothing can be achieved!!
• United States
17 Mar 07
I am absolutely offended by your comments! For future reference, calling someone's morals into question for a political view (which this most certainly is) is both ignorant and rude. On to explaining my blasee answers, here you go: What would you like to do about this? I understand giving harsher penalties for the crimes, but anyone who spent any time studying the science of behavior analysis (which the concept of punishment comes from) will tell you that maybe ending up in jail after a lengthy court proceding is not enough to stop a person from commiting a crime, especially those who abuse children. So what would you do? Start observing everyone with children? Or only a certain segment? Take away children after one CPS report, even if nothing is proven? The problem with democracy is that we do not have the right to do anything until after a crime has been committed. This is the part where the casualties of democracy come in. We cannot take a child away until the parent has done something wrong, we cannot move a person away from children until they have abused those children. The cost of democracy is the innocent lives that are lost due to the need to allow people to offend before we punish them. However, I do make the point that as a form of government we are lucky. We do not suffer genocide, mass extreem poverty, or cultural viewpoints that allow people to do whatever they like with their families without the government stepping in. We do have our casualties, but we are alot luckier than some places, and you need to apreciate that. That was my point
18 Mar 07
Well that explains your point in a totally different light! If you had expressed yourself to this tune in the first instance I would not have questioned the "morals" (not specifically your morals). As for the rudeness and ignorance, I would suggest that If I had said nothing, that would have been rude as I would have held those views of you without you having the opportunity to rectify my interpretation of your comment. As I have stated in my some of my previous discussions, the written words can be interpreted in different ways, and by discussing the theme instead of just commenting on it, misinterpretations can be clarified, as you have! I make no appology for the way your first post read to me, but I had no intention of offending you if that wasn't what you meant, which it wasn't! I agree that the legal system is inadequate in dealing with crimes in the way they have and the effects on the families society can be devestating. As for the cure, it would have to be a long term solution taking a different approach and early intervention, as to the specifics, there are many life skills that are not learnt whilst maturing for many people, and this would be the primary area of attention diversified into tributaries steming from there. Hell, I do not claim to be the wisdom machine and have the outright answers, and even if I did, in todays society probably would meet with all types of resistance and ridacule, but then what gives you the impression that that wouldn't deter me if I had the answers! I am glad you took the time to clarify your initial post, as it takes on a totally different meaning expressed this way!
16 Mar 07
The sadness in this is that the few instances you have mentioned are only the tip of the iceberg so to speak! The penalty obviously has not nor is sufficient for these horrendous perpetrations against our young! In cases of this nature where it is proven beyond doubt, these perpetrators should be dealt with in a manner to alleviate the re-occurance and actually deter the occurance!