The Pope Healed Her?
By Rozie37
@Rozie37 (15499)
Turkmenistan
March 31, 2007 7:27pm CST
Correct me if I am wrong, but I recently heard in the news that there is some mysterious nun claiming that she prayed to Pope John Paul II and he healed her. Now, I want to go about discussing this in the right way.
Because, there is a part of me that does not want to offend and then there is a part of me that does not give a care. My first question is, if the Pope can heal, why do we need God? Why would anyone pray to a Pope in the first place? I believe she said that he healed her of Parkinsons Disease. Oh really? How can the Catholic church claim to be the bride of Christ, yet pray to "saints"
It is my understanding that Jesus came to die, to be the mediator between God and man. So where do these other charactors come in? Does anyone else know of someone who claims to have prayed to a saint or Pope and was healed? Do you believe them? I would really like some sincere honest answers for these questions. I want to understand the Catholic religion a little better.
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
1 Apr 07
I really don't think you do want to know more about catholicism at all by your last post and this one. I think you want to find a reason to be bigoted towards them. If you are christian like you claim, then you should know about the catholic chirch already, since your religion is based on and is a direct offshoot of the catholic church.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
1 Apr 07
I am not "bigoted" toward anyone. But obviously, you do not understand the significance of a religion that believes that someone other than God has the power to heal.
I believe that the Catholic church is practicing idolatry. I know a lot of Catholic people and see them every day. If I wanted to offend someone, I could get in a battle with them about this.
The Bible says to go into all the world and preach the gospel and this is what I do. I am a very loving person, it is not the Catholic people that I am upset with. We don't wrestle against flesh and blood. It is the lie of the devil that concerns and scares me.
It's seems like a contradiction to me to say that God is your everything, but when it comes to praying and things like that you turn to man. In this story about the nun being healed by the Pope, God was not mentioned at all.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
1 Apr 07
Like I said before, I am not a bigot. I am not intolerant of anyone. There are so many different religions around me. There are even atheist around me and I treat everyone just the same, because in my heart we are all the same.
We are all God's creation and God loves us all the same. I have no right to reject or be intolerant or even judge someone that God loves. All I want to do is better understand the Catholic religion and their ways of thinking.
I was talking to a friend of mine earlier about it. She was raised Catholic and has now converted to Christianity. I asked her why and she said because she finally started thinking for herself.
But when I ask her why Catholics do things the way that they do, she gets in a huff. So maybe, the Catholic church is just to sacred to be touched, which futher proves me point.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I think I understand a little about where you're coming from on this. It's a scary thought that some man, even if he is the Pope, should take the credit for a healing.
Catholics believe, or believed at one time (I'm not sure if they still do) that the Pope is a direct descendant of Peter and as such, the church should be built upon "that rock."
As the spiritual descendant of Peter, they believe the Pope has powers given to him by God. Whether this includes healing, I don't know, but it does include the power to forgive, a belief which was extrapolated somehow from the place where Jesus tells Peter to forgive seventy times seven, from what I have read.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I agree that being a descendant of Peter has nothing to do with it - I didn't say it did, I was telling you how the Catholic came to some of its conclusions.
As to forgiving, anyone can forgive, of course, you don't even need to be a Christian to do that. I was referring to the ultimate forgiveness - forgiveness of all our sins to salvation. Only God can do that.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
1 Apr 07
We all have the power to forgive, but not even Peter had the power to heal without God. Remember, when Jesus told them that some things only happen through prayer and fasting. They had the power to lay hands on people, but they still had to have faith that God was going to heal these people. So being a descendant of Peter has nothing to do with it, because Peter was no greater than we are.
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@disvachic (10117)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I dont know anyone personally but i have seen on tv where they claim to heal people and they get out of their wheelchair and all.I dont know what religion they are though.In my honest opinion i think its a fake.IN my book God is the only one who heals.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I believe God can heal, through prayer.. but am inclined to think the public and especially the broadcast healings are not too genuine.. I believe mostly in the healings Jesus did, and the apostles for a time after He was here, and the New Testament says that was God's witness/testimony that Jesus was His Son.. I like that! I think it's pretty kool..
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