How did you come to believe in what you believe?
April 4, 2007 12:20am CST
Were you raised in the religion you currently count yourself a member of? Did you choose it, because it felt like it was the right path for you to take? Did you have some kind of experience which led you to your current spiritual path? What was the motivating factor for you?
4 Apr 07
your's is an interesting but simple question yet so hard to answer in few lines coz it takes a long time to arrive at what one is, if one really has struggled. still i'll try to be as short but comprehensive as possible for me. I started being a theist. i was born to theist parents and i just believed that. fortunately or unfortunately i have been among the top students of my classes so i was always like taking initiative and lead. when i started studying sciences, i became enthusiast of sciences coz they provided the answers in systematic and logical ways while the theist people were just telling me everything is done by GOD, no explanation at all. as i grew in academics, studying darwinian evolution, physical world, scietific methods and laws, i became more and more of the view that sciences are the best bet and that many things i was told or believed, is from GOD, follow laws and not the mysterious power for functioning. I didn't see or couldn't approve of GOD's presence anywhere. I started believing that there is no GOD at all. so there i was more like an agnostic than theist. when my thought processes got more and more mature, i started searching for the scientific answers for all of my questions, i found some and other i couldn't. Still i was an agnostic. as i was more and more into sciences, the things started happening quickly. My reconversion started, if i could really say, basically from theory of evolution which do not deal with the formation of life but evolution of life. when i started searching for the origin, science only theorised that it could be chance or abiogenesis, which is obviously opposite to the theory of biogensis which is not doubted by anyone. i just questioned why to go against an undoubted theory, why to believe in chance while we do not approve of these in our own lives, why to get hold of something we don't believe in and don't go against normally to explain already doubtful things? why abiogenesis can't give life to non living. why, though by chance a chair or a robot or anything can't get alive and evolve to get walking. I also believed in theory of cause and effect, searching for causes behind all effects or analysing the causes to foretell the effects. one day it struck to my mind that if every thing cmes under the system of cause and effect than what is the cause of this universe, our life, all systems in place? from where they came and how and why? at this point in time i started to realise the limits of sciences. i am not suggesting that i left it, i love sciences and am still into it professionally. When i came to engneering, as i sarted observing outer world more and more deeply, i could no more believe that anything can come into being by chance without an engineer or any other creator for that matter. i have already written somewhere that to believe that a law can be made without law making body, or a car or space shuttle be designed without a designer, or chair be made without carpenter is simply impossible. now if nothing can come into being without designer than how come an intelligent being like humans, who further has the ability to create and evolve intellectually, came to being without a designer and creator. and for him to create such intelligent creation like human, he must be super intelligent. All this in short braught me to believe some extra ordinary existance (GOD or gods) who created all this and is/are runnig the natural systems in harmony. I noted that a created thing can't be master of creator, like chair can't be the master of carpenter, or robbot can't be the master of humans. i further noted that the natural objects or worldly material systems which are subject to human prowess, like sun, moon, stars or anything for that matter which are further sub system to greater system (galaxy), who are further subsystem to yet more systems, can't be creator or masters of human beings. so there must be some supernatural existance who created us and is/are our master. Till now i came to conclusion and belief of existance of GOD/gods. my next journey to dissociate other gods from single GOD was yet more troublesome and demanding. because from my observation it was easy for me to believe in creation but how to know if there are many or just one, proved to be difficult part of my journey. Now when my observation was further matured and i started analysing human systems, i noted that though in a system for example a company, there are diferent departments, each working separately from other yet they are working under single body for a single projected goal. there is always a head to every system wether it be family, a society, a country or an institution. Harmony can only be assured when there is a single head at top of the system, who gives overall direction to any system. even in non living objects there is always a single focal point. every planet revolves around sun, the whole solar system with other similar systems revolve around a galaxy, a group of galaxies revolve around a further single focal point so on and so forth, every thing seems converging to a single reality and focal point. so i came to conclusion that even if there are departments made for this universe, run by different directors, there is only one single GOD, almighty, All knowing, self sustainer and cause of all this existance, creation and harmonious running of livng and non living systems. when i arrived at this conclusion, i studied all major religions and i formally stick to one which provides more logical, satisfactory and sensible answers, but still i am different from majority of my fellow followers of this religion. I am sorry for such a long answer, i tried to keep it as short as possible but my weak writing skills didn't permit me to write lesser than this. i am still not satisfied and have much to say but i understand that its already more than demanded.
• United States
5 Apr 07
There is no need to apologize. Your answer was excellent. Then again, there is no right or wrong answer to this question. I find it very interesting that what led you to the divine was your logical, mathematical, and scientific skills, rather than a spiritual experience. That is wonderful, and very interesting. And, don't be so hard on yourself for your English and/or writing skills. I've studied French off and on for the last 20 years, and I can't write or speak nearly as well as you can! Your English is much better than even some of the people I know who's first language is English. Seriously, your writing skills and English proficiency are very, very good. Thank you for your response. You are welcome to keep going if you would like to. I would love to hear it, and I will read it. I made this discussion because I wanted to hear about peoples experiences, so I am all ears! :) +
5 Apr 07
Thanks for your appreciation of my english. usually i am comfortable with my level of english and don't bother much about it but when it comes to thought process, beliefs and values, i can't help feeling sorry for my poor writing skill or english proficiency. i just don't find adequate and proper words to put, that precisely explains the point. if you have been studying french for 20 years, i can bet you will be much better in french too as you are in english, because i just happen to deal with french for just 2 years now. About the spiritual experience, well! i did have a couple of them (only if they can be called so) before admittance of GOD, but then i disposed them of as mere chance or my sixth sense for that matter. It's only that i saw them with the eyes of an agnostic at that time and now i see them as theist, just a change of vision:-) for example a very nice spiritual person (who appeared to me nice later as i didn't know him earlier) when he saw me with a common friend said about me, "he is not, what he was and what he will be". and years later when i had a chance to see him again for the second time by chance, he again told one of his fellows, He is now what he wasn't and what he will remain". the other two times, it just happened that i used to do somethings stubbornly in a perticular way and only once in my life i did them differently that later proved to be life saving change. i called it sixth sense back then and now i see it more like a divine intervention. but that doesn't have importance as such in my belief coz they never played part in it. i remained what i was i.e. agnostic till the time i was mentally convinced. It was nice talking to you and thanks specially that you read my reply, coz not many people reply to my replies, may be because they are wrong or long and that's why i said sorry for the length of reply. wish you best of luck in life.
4 Apr 07
I just happened one day after turning away from a traditional belief, I find myself surrendering my will to our Lord Jesus Christ. After this experience, God is always there to impress something for me, or convict me if I've done many wrongs or guide me in many of my decisions. He gives me the assurance thru faith that He cares and loves me very much.
4 Apr 07
I believe a lot of things from my life experiences. I find myself not wholly believing in any religion because nothing goes with what I believe without contradicting major things. Some of my experiences with religion turned me to only being spiritual, like being asked not to come back to church with dyed black hair when I was 15... By the minister! I would think if he thought I was such a troubled soul he would welcome me to his church, but instead he didn't want a strange person there. Also the behavior of some others I met of other religions/Christian denominations made me wary. I've been cornered up in friends' and family's and even my own houses by people trying to convince me that they were right and I was wrong, I wasn't worshiping the right god and I was on a one way flight to hell or whatever their "bad place" was. This was always a put off to me. I've never turned away someone wanting to explain their beliefs to me, but when they start telling me how they apply to ME specifically I get antsy and that's what turns me more and more away from organized religion leading to my current beliefs.
• United States
4 Apr 07
I'm sorry that you had the experience of dealing with fanatics and people turning you away. BUT, I am glad that you've found a spiritual path that you are happy with. Thank you for sharing your experiences with your own spirituality and with religion in general. +
28 Apr 07
I was born to Hindu parents and for a major potion of my life have followed that faith. Over a period of time there are many things that my mind cannot accept in Hinduism, or in any other religion for that matter (I have read the 'Holy Books' of most of the major religions). I find that religions have a lot of point in common, and those are what we in modern society would consider as 'good'. As far as dogma is concerned, well I think it is just dogma and best left alone. I believe that there is a creator, and do obviously read a lot more Hindu religious books, follow some of the rituals, because that is the way I have been bought up, that is my society that I have to live in, but my mind is still groping for answers, trying to get a grasp of many concepts that religions have to offer. Maybe the answer/s for me is/are just around the corner, maybe I may never ever discover the answers, or maybe I could never be satisfied, even if the answer/s is/are there right in front of me?