Dangerous dog breeds

@Riptide (2758)
United States
April 5, 2007 7:58pm CST
I think certain breeds of dogs are more dangerous than others. Like pitbulls, rottweilers and presa canarios (the breed dog that killed that lady in CA). Should certain breeds not be allowed in cities Or do you think people that want to own dogs like this should have to get a special licence? After all a dog like this can be a deadly weapon in the wrong hands. I know it's all up to how they are raised, but it is certain that a pitbull in the hands of a bad person is more dangerous then a pomeranian. I think they need stricter laws concerning dangerous dogs. People that have committed violent felonies for example, shouldn't be allowed to own dangerous dogs. What do you think? Are certain breed of dogs more dangerous then others and should something be done about it?
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• United States
6 Apr 07
I think that equates to racism for dogs. That's like saying "we should electronically tag all black people because they commit the most crimes". Absurd! I've known very sweet, gentle Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. And I have a Black Lab (you know, the breed a lot of folks get to have around the kids?)/Chow mix that could fight with the best of them if provoked. What is needed is more education and less stereotyping of these dogs. Dogs really can sense fear, and it makes them immediately suspicious of you, which makes them nervous and more likely to attack. If people were better educated about them, they might not do things that provoke the dogs, and there could be less fear, more respect, and fewer attacks.
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@AskAlly (3625)
• Canada
7 Apr 07
I am with you on this one critter keeper. We are a temporary emercency shelter. Over the years I have accumulated quite the menagerie. It's not the animal, its the owner. I have a rare breed of dog that I adopted myself. He is a Caucasion Ovcarka. Used by the former USSR as guard dogs. If not careful, this breed will own you and everything around it. If there happens to be a strange person or animal the ovcharka get protective to the point it will kill to keep its area safe. That particular dog has been with us for 5 years and needed more rehab than any dog I have ever encountered before or since. Now he is like a huge cuddly bear. He is best friends with my Rottie and Pitbull and one particular goat of all things. He is as gentle as a lamb. Don't get down on a breed just because it they are larger. I have seen some "cute" little doggied that needed some serious rehab. More than any pitbull etc, but because they are small their dominance is not noticed by the owners, who think its cute.
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• United States
6 Apr 07
I didn't say that -every- attack was brought on by something the person did. And of course you can find dozens of examples either way - where the dog was provoked and where the dog wasn't. Pit Bull and Rottweiler attacks make the media because they feed peoples' fears and they eat these stories right up. Media thrives on hype. Vicious Pekingese don't cause quite a stir, but those little things can be hateful! But they're small, fluffy, and some would say, cute. Also, if you did something dumb and accidentally provoked your dog into attacking you, how likely are you to admit that to the media? Not very. More likely, people will save face and say "I don't why the dog attacked - he just went nuts", because the dog can't say otherwise.
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• United States
6 Apr 07
I ran my own rescue for over 10 yrs, specialized in rehabilitating "viscious" dogs, worked in two pet shops, taught canine obedience classes professionally, show and breed Great Danes, worked at two different shelters, and taught handling for conformation. Not one single time ever did I see a dog that had ever bitten unless a human had messed it up somehow or done something wrong with it! The only time I've even HEARD about such an incidence was with American Cocker Spaniels (if I'm not misremembering the breed since I'm getting a bit senile :p) They developed some kind of strange "seizure" where they would fly into a rage and seemed to be genetically passed down. But to my knowledge good breeders have stamped that out with careful breeding and culling the affected bloodlines. NO dog bites for no reason! People are just too darn ignorant to know the reason usually!
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
6 Apr 07
If you train a dog to be mean and hate people than its going to attack people. The fact that they are more dangerous because they are large breeds doesnt make them anymore vicious than a chihuahua. I have seen plenty of small dogs that were twice as mean and would bite you for no reason that were small dogs than a large dog. Of course a large dog is gona be harder to handle and if its raised to be vicious its going to do more damage than a small dog. Thats like being rear ended by a compact car or being hit by a semi. Do we outlaw all semi trucks because they are more dangerous in a accident??? No and we shouldnt do the same to dogs we should hold owners accountable if they raise the animals to be more vicious. I have had doberman pinschers, great dane, german shepherd and the meanest dog my parents ever had was a poodle that thing would bite you if you got near any of its toys or sat in its chair it was a little hellion.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
6 Apr 07
Any dog can be mean and dangerous. It does depend on how they are raised. I have seen very mean little dogs like a pomeranian do damage to people and sometimes a lot more damage then they might because people aren't expecting it from them. I knew someone who had a huge chunk of her stomach taken out by a shih-tzu, he jumped up and bit. So it doesn't matter what the breed is. People who will raise mean and dangerous dogs will do so with what ever breed they get a hold of. It won't matter to them. They don't care about the danger they are creating or the damage they are doing to the dog. That is the type of person they are. So I think instead of punishing the dogs we should be punishing the owners. If someone is caught with a dog that is dangerous then punish them, fine them and make it so they can't have another dog without supervision or something like that. Don't just destroy the dog but see if they can be retrained or placed someplace where they won't be a danger to anyone else. Punish those responsible for the danger.
@Riptide (2758)
• United States
7 Apr 07
I agree, the dogs shouldn't be put down, but retrained someplace. The dog shouldn't pay for it with its life because of the owners inability to raise it.
• United States
6 Apr 07
i dont think the dogs are more dangerous, its the stupid irresponsible owners that train them to be that way. Those dogs can just do more damage if they attack. Pit bulls are actually very gentle by nature. I dont know about how to regulate that...i dont know someone having a felony would matter with owning a dog breed. Just cuz you have a felony doesn't mean youre going to train nasty dogs...there's no correlation there. I wish people (usually men)just wouldnt be so freaken stupid and try to be tough by making their dog that way. Its a weird macho complex they have and they take it out on their dog.
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@Riptide (2758)
• United States
6 Apr 07
The case of Diane Whipple comes to mind. The lady that got killed by two presa canarios in her apartment building. The dog was owned by 2 lawyers who got them from a convicted felon. I do agree, it seems that men are more likely to have big dangerous dog.
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@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
6 Apr 07
I do agree with what you say. Its such a tough call because some pitbulls live a peaceful happy life with nice stable owners. That being said personally I would not own such a dog as a parent to children. I would be afraid the unthinkable would happen and statistically these dogs ARE more likely to snap, and if they do can obviously do more damage than a beagle. I think there should be some type of laws governing ownership of dogs that could be considered dangerous, but the laws can't be so ridiculous that kind people can't own them, if thats what they choose. I will say that my mother owns and shows English Springer Spaniels. She treats those dogs like her kids and spoils them. Her dog jake turned on her and mauled her arm. He had to be put down. He snapped for no reason and experts said he had "springer rage" something I had never heard of and of course, I never thought of a Springer as a dangerous dog. So it's all very hard. It's hard to classify one dog as dangerous and another as not dangerous. I guess any dog can snap, even with great owners.
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@Riptide (2758)
• United States
6 Apr 07
Wow, I never heard of Springer Spnaiels getting vicious either. I guess any dog can snap. I think though, that if it was a pitbull or rottweiler, more damage would have been done, which leads me back to the point that certain dogs are more dangerous. I hope your mother is allright and I hope it didn't dampen her love for dogs.
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@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
6 Apr 07
Thankfully she was ok! We took her to the emergency room, and they had to close one wound, but the rest were just cleaned up and they did an xray and no breaks. She has three more dogs now, two that she got after this happened, so I think she's okay now, she was pretty shook up that day though. It took 5 people to get the dog out of his crate. He was still going nuts. It's all so sad to me. I love animals, and hate to think they go nuts like that but I know they do. Yes it could have been alot worse if my mom had a rottweiler attack her! I don't even want to think about that!
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@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
6 Apr 07
I own three Springers and have heard of springer rage, but I think it's more a health issue, something to do with the brain. I really don't know if you can generally say that one breed of dog is more dangerous than another. I have a friend who has the bigges doberman I have ever seen, he weighs about 120 pounds. I was always afraid of dobermans until I met this dog, and he is the biggest baby. I think any dog can become dangerous, but I think there are a lot of factors, like how they are treated, general health, even diet. I have heard of the gentlest dogs becoming aggressive because someone was teasing and tormenting it.
• United States
6 Apr 07
People who own dangerous dogs should have to get an inexpensive license. Some might argue which are the most dangerous, and that can cause problems. You could have protests over deciding which dogs should have the license or not. Then there will be people who don't care and wont get a license.
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• United States
17 Jun 07
ALL dogs are supposed to be licensed. It might be a better idea to educate and test the people and issue THEM the tag. People after all are the ones that are dangerous. This all sounds like bigotry..and is that ok because the dogs can't respond for themselves? A dog is just a dog, it's not a lion or a bear...it's just a four legged wet nosed furry bundle of love. Anyone who has ever loved a dog understands this. Anyone who can't love a dog shouldn't share a life with them. A dog is a living being with feelings and needs, not a "thing" to "own".
@icequeen (2840)
• Canada
6 Apr 07
Here in Ontario...they have banned certain dogs like pitbulls etc...and I think it is about time. It is a known fact that certain breeds like these can turn violent out of nowhere..and in the hands of the wrong peopel it can be even worse. There have been so many incidents of people getting mauled and killed by these breeds of dogs. I think it is too bad that there are so many and now the animal shelters are full of them...but they should not be a household pet....
• United States
8 Apr 07
"It is a known fact that certain breeds like these can turn violent out of nowhere..." Where did this FACT come from? I've worked with animals most of my life, dogs labelled as "viscious" among them, and have never seen this studied, tested, and released as a fact. How many animals have you worked with professionally? In what capacity? Point being, I have professionally worked with literally hundreds if not thousands of animals in my life so far and quite a few of them "viscious" dogs as I mentioned. And I personally doubt that you could claim the same since posting what you did. It is NEVER EVER the dog's fault. It is human error! Dogs do NOT "turn violent out of nowhere". In any case where that's claimed it's only because the people are too ignorant to know the reason why the dog bit or too embarassed to admit that they didn't treat their pet the way they should!
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
6 Apr 07
I don't know...if you could see my Little Lilly do her mini Cujo act, whom is a Mini Dachshund, I am sure that you would think that She is a dangerous breed! LOL Seriously, she just doesn't like my Basset Hound and when he comes near when she is on the bed or my lap, you would think she turned Cujo! I am trying my best to teach her...but wow! She sure doesn't like my Bailey!!! With that said...should some people have special licenses? I think if that person in order to get the license attended a special class on training and how to and not to handle a dog...I think that would be a grand idea. Because I would also say that it depends on how a dog is raised. But when you look at my Little Lilly...you would not think her to be a mini Cujo. Heck, she doesn't do that to my Beagle...nor any other dog that she has been near. For some reason, it is just Bailey! So, given a situation, I think any dog could turn. But if you have a dog that could turn that would be more than an ankle bitter...you might want to get some training on how to properly handle the dog. :)
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
7 Apr 07
The classical...pick on him because I like him thing? LOL I sometimes think Bailey thinks she is a mini one of him...like he is waiting for her to grow up. Poor big butt Bailey doesn't realize that she is not going to get much bigger. hahahaha
• Philippines
6 Apr 07
pitbull - a trained pit bull
In our county, there are many people who are taking care of a bitbull or rotweiler. I guess pet owners should be responsible enough in taking care of these dangerous dog breeds. If they are taught not to hurt people, these dogs will not harm any person. Even other people should be kind to these animals because some dogs hurt people because they are being hurt, It's an animal instinct. So, dog breeders should be responsible in training their dogs.
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• Canada
6 Apr 07
Any dog has the potential to be a dangerous dog no matter what the breed. Some dogs just have reputations for being dangerous because of ignorant people who decide that because 1 dog from that breed attacks, then they're all dangerous and should be killed. I recently saw a notice up on a post about pit bull puppies for sale. Someone had written horrible things all over the poster and said that they'd better watch their backs. I personally find that kind of discrimination sickening. Watch this video on YouTube. It's called True Love Isn't Breed Specific, and it's heartbreaking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Qlw3pzWv4
@Riptide (2758)
• United States
7 Apr 07
Yes it might be discrimination, but there is always 2 sides to every story. Maybe that person who wrote all over those posters had a loved one mauled by a pitbull? I'm sure all breeds can be raised to be good and loving pets, yet it doesn't change the fact that certain breeds do need more attention and training then others and that some people just don't have that knowledge to raise animals like that.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
3 Jul 08
I think you are right on target, Riptide! It is common knowledge that certain breeds of dogs have that aggressive gene, and, as you stated, they can become a weapon in the hands of the wrong people. Violent felons are scum and don't deserve any rights until they can show that they are reformed after a certain length of time.
• Philippines
6 Apr 07
as what i have learned, all of the dogs' defensive reaction is to bite. there are a lot of dogs being breed for different purposes. like Pitbulls, it was breed as fighting dogs, dobermann pinschers, alsatians and rottweilers were being breed for military or guard dogs, golden retrievers and labrador retrievers were breed as working dogs, and there are lot of dogbreeds. there are a lot of factors on why dogs bite humans. some factors are its breed, social interactions with humans, how they being brought up by their owners and simply their animal instinct. their is also a certain levels for dogs that they will bite, like one of my dogs before, a japanese spitz dog, on his first 6 years, he loves to play with children, even if it's their first time to meet, when he was 7 years old i found out that he changed a lot, he barks most of the time on children, he quarreled my other dogs. so, i just have to put him to cage before bad things happen. also, mixed breed dogs' personality is unpredictable because you can't really tell or assume if his personality is the same with his mother or father. before we buy a dog,we should know the background of the dog, breed and background of parents, so that we know how to treat them and we can understand it's personality.
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6 Jul 09
I think you made a very good point in the sentence that it is all abou tthe way the owners treat them - I do believe though that certain people shouldn't be allowed to keep animals at all never mind just ones thats are classed as dangerous. Hopefully laws will eventually come into play that will make life easier for everyone who cares about the right treatment of animals and keeping others safe! x
• United States
3 Jul 08
I don't think most dog breeds are more aggresive. But sometimes in lines, the great grandparents were trained to fight, then had puppies. And so on down the line, the parents were more aggressive and so the puppies were. And inbreeding also. It's an odd theory...
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
6 Apr 07
Some breeds are more alpha-prone than others. Some breeds are also more powerful than others, so even if they only bite once, they do a LOT of damage. While other breeds may be really vicious little things, they can't do much harm. In the hands of the right owner though, most dogs would do just fine. But weak people should not have alpha prone dogs. I don't mean physically weak either, but people who are too weak to be good trainers.
@Galena (9110)
7 Apr 07
"it is certain that a pitbull in the hands of a bad person is more dangerous then a pomeranian." it is, but only because the Pomeranian is much smaller and less strong. rather than to do with the different personalities. I don't think any dog is dangerous because of it's breed. only if they have had a bad upbringing, or mental disorder. so, what breeds would you stop criminals owning? because any dog can be dangerous. will you ban breeds purely by size or by reputation. most Rotties are lovely dogs. really soppy, not too bright, bless em. but utterly devoted and affectionate and tolerant dogs. so I wouldn't say they're a dangerous breed.
• United States
6 Apr 07
I have to disagree with your point about stricter laws concerning dangerous dogs. There needs to be laws pertaining to dog ownership. Ive had pit-bulls and have found them to be some of the most loving and playful dogs i've ever owned. I don't believe in dangerous dogs... theres only dangerous owners.
• United States
6 Apr 07
I have to disagree with your point about stricter laws concerning dangerous dogs. There needs to be laws pertaining to dog ownership. Ive had pit-bulls and have found them to be some of the most loving and playful dogs i've ever owned. I don't believe in dangerous dogs... theres only dangerous owners.
• United States
17 Jun 07
NO. This is like saying that certain races of people are more prone to crime than others! There are REALLY no bad dogs. There are some VERY bad people. Certainly a larger dog can do more damage than a toy breed, but I have to tell you my chihuahua/terrier 13lb little man can put a huge bruise upon the seat of someone he percieves as a threat, while my 200lb English Mastiff was a gentle soul (only ever bit my mother in law!) Please do not label breeds. Each dog is an individual.
@jess07 (319)
3 Jul 08
No dog is born nasty i agree that a dog in a bad persons hands is dangerous! the owner constructs the dog.but i think of it this way, having to have a license to have a certain breed of dog and all the rumours of dogs(rottweiller,amstaff...)that all of a sudden attack people, has sent many poor loving animals on the streets to fend for themselves or to the pound.but these dogs are calm placide animals until they end up there.I have known a couple of pit bulls and they are a normal loving dog with a wet nose kind eyes and the longing to be loved.