Poverty as an excuse for crime?

@ethanmama (1746)
Philippines
April 12, 2007 3:06am CST
Whenever we watch the news on TV, there would be some local news that focus on petty crimes like small time thievery, hold ups, small time drug dealing, etc. In a lot of the featured news, the perpetuator would always say that they were "forced" to turn to a life of crime because they are poor and they "do not have any other choice" and asking the victims to forgive them and let them go. For me, this is not fair. Poverty should never be an excuse to do bad things. Sometimes the "crime" is not even justifiable. For example, stealing money could really be because of the need for money. But what about acts like rape? How could poverty justify it? Your thoughts on this, please.
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@ESKARENA1 (18299)
12 Apr 07
no, you are right but poverty should never be used as an excuse for crime. Yet, i feel poverty is a reason for crime. Poverty in a community where it is the norm will not generate crime but poverty alongside conspicuous consumption will. Look at it this way, if someone shows off wealth in the midsts of poverty, there will be an increase in aquisative crime. If we truely want to break the link, a good way is to put an end to conspicuous consumption blessed be
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@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
12 Apr 07
I agree with you. People go into a life of crime because they desire something they cannot acquire legitimately.
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@xfahctor (14128)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
13 Apr 07
I agrea. It is nothing more than an excuse. Im dirt poor and struggling. But I'm not out robbing liquer stores. I work and do what i can to suppoet my family honestly. I want my kids to learn this way. I want them to grow up honetly and having self respoect enough to make their own way. Look back in time, peopole didnt used to be like this on this scale. If you were poor, you just worked harder and did with out a few things.
@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
My thoughts exactly. Living within or below your means is the way to do it. And of course, work.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
12 Apr 07
There is no excuse for crime of any kind.People being poor is in my opinion the poorest excuse for committing a crime - many people are poor because they do not work so my answer to that is get a job. If you can go out and commit a crime then you are physically able to go out and get a job.
@mypeace (394)
• Nigeria
12 Apr 07
Its not a question of poverty, but is a question of self control, personal morality and family background. If poverty could be blamed what happens in the third world countries where the leaders (supposely rich)loot the national treasury and keep on looting for their next and next generation? Its just pure lack of self control, greediness and bad moral.
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@cefaz_21 (2597)
• Philippines
12 Apr 07
You said it right sis, poverty can never be an excuse for any crime,whether it's stealing or anyhting else. Why steal? can you not borrow? can you not work? can you not find other ways than stealing? I believe there is no crime that is justifiable, the fact that it's a crime means it deserved certain punishments or disciplinary actions.
@rb200406 (1825)
• India
12 Apr 07
I agree with you.You know many crimes people commit just to get fast bucks.They don't want to work hard & wait .Instead they will go for robbery.I have heard lots of cases of young people taking to crime just for fun or easy money.The world is becoming so materialistic that no money is enough.They want more.there are lots of people who can afford a avarage life with basic neccessaties but are not satisfied with it & turn to these crimes. You are right in saying that crime like rape has no justification.These type of crimes just cannot be justified
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@ackars (1942)
• India
12 Apr 07
Its one of the main cause of crime in India atleast.India is a poverty nation and lots of criminals arises from the low economic zone.Im not trying to say that all people who are born in the low poverty zone are criminals.But money and wealth is something men are interested in most how much ever they disagree with it.Nost of the poverty peoples are not having any other ways of leading a life and they gradulayy start doing small small crimes which later becomes a motive to do big crimes.
• United States
13 Apr 07
Poverty is often used as an excuse to commit crime, but it's not the real reason. The real reason has to do with anti-social behavior and disenchantment. A lot of people feel that the "man" has got them down and they are just not going to do what the "man" wants them to do. They also feel that they have no future and will never be able to make a life for themselves. They also hate everyone else for being able to do things that they can't and conforming to society. They feel so much like outsiders that they think they can never fit in and they take it out on everyone because it makes them feel "big".
@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
That's an interesting way to look at it.
@dbeast (1499)
• India
12 Apr 07
poverty can in no way be posed as an excuse to commit crimes.how can raping a person be justified by poverty?that is ridiculous.these people if they put the same effort into something useful and if they harvets their time to do some honest clean work they ll easily get settled in life.most of the people complain that they were foced to change because of poverty,i would never agree to that .i would say that they themselves had changed themselves which leads to their downfall.these people need to ry and get on their feet and try and work things out the honest way.a little effort will go a long way.
@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
Well said.
@rsa101 (13763)
• Quezon City, Philippines
12 Apr 07
I would say that there are many crimes that are not at all related to poverty. like what you've said there are many crimes that may be caused by passion and everything related to emotions. But there are certain things like robbery that could be link to poverty. They are forced to take other things because of a need or something. But it should never be an excuse for him to be pardoned from the crime because it is never right to commit it whenever you are in utmost need of it. Many crimes are committed because of greediness not because of poverty.
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@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
I agree.
@dlkuku (1936)
• United States
12 Apr 07
Whatever happened to working hard to get out of poverty? When I was a girl, I was raised by my mother in a single parent household. She worked in a sewing factory to make ends meet. Yes, we were poor, but we had the basics. When I was a teen, my mother went through a bout of bad health and we ended up living off the welfare system. We became even poorer. When I was 14, I went to work in order to take the pressure of my mother, I helped her pay bills and was able to buy things for myself. I married at 17, when I was 32, we separated and I was then a single mother of three children. Not willing to live a life on welfare, I got a job. It paid minimum wage, and we were really poor. I worked my way up, out of the welfare system, out of poverty. And not once did I commit a crime due to my lack of money. Poverty does not justify committing acts of crime, if someone wants, then they should have to work for it. Even if they have to go flip hamburgers for a living.
@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
I admire people who still maintain their dignity inspite of poverty. Hats off to you!
@vesuvius (1677)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
There are a lot of poor people who dont engage to any sort of crimes and they can manage to survive in this world so I believe, using poverty as an excuse for any crime is unjustified. These people who use poverty as an excuse just can find any other reason for their doings when in fact, it is their own human interests that brought them to such a situation.
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@Arkadus (899)
• Canada
12 Apr 07
The only time poverty is a valid reason is when the crime constitutes the theft of foodstuffs, clothes or money with which to provure either of those.
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@tyc415 (5706)
• United States
12 Apr 07
No, poverty is no excuse for crime just the same as being abused is not an excuse to rape or abuse others. It is not just people on the poverty level that do the crimes, the rich have money to hush up the newspaper and TV and the money to buy their way or their kids way out of it.
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• Philippines
12 Apr 07
I believe in what you said. Poverty is a lame excuse to commit crime. They always make it an exvuse when infact, these people who commit crimes like robbery, kidnap or rape or the like, they only do these things for their own personal satisfaction and nothing else. Likewise, they use the money for their vices also, not for food or any other reason. I know alot that they try very to work just to earn money and they never blame poverty to hinder them from earning money. I admire those people who are earning based from their own hardwork and because of decent work. These people who commit crime are strong, why don't they work and break their bones to earn money and not committing crimes. There's more to say but I guess i have to end it here, my temper is going high. Goodluck and happy posting!
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12 Apr 07
There is no excuse for crime of any kind. Right now I am in real financial trouble but I wouldn't go out and burgle someone's house, or mug someone just because I have no money. As for rape, there is never any excuse for the violation of a human being in that manner, ever.
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@chiyosan (29837)
• Philippines
12 Apr 07
I still think though that The end does not justify the means. There are many ways to earn money, the right way and resulting to crimes will never be justified as correct.
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• Singapore
13 Apr 07
No it doesn't justify anything. You may hate God or whatever but so? Being poor doesn't give you a licence to commit atrocities. :P
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@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
14 Apr 07
I'm glad we have the same idea, Wizard.
@fawcey (928)
• Australia
13 Apr 07
Only last night I was watching Law and Order and it was about a homeless man who had killed another homeless man. They were using the defence that because he was homeless and shunned by society that he should not be held accountable for the murder because of his lifestyle and his place in society. I found this episode quite interesting as yes the homeless seem to be a forgotten people and it seems that they live almost like animals and have different laws within their own groups, which is what it said on the show, but does that give the right to kill? I think that poverty or lifestyle should not be used as an excuse for violent crimes. The guy in law and order was convicted and rightly so. He killed the other man for not giving him a piece of orange. There should be no excuses for violent crimes, in the end it is the person commiting the crimes choice and choice alone.
@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
That sounds like an interesting episode. I think that's right. You made your choices and you have to live with the consequences of the choices you make.
@whyaskq (7532)
• Singapore
13 Apr 07
Who can understand and appreciate poverty? In my opinion, Only those who have been through poverty will really understand what and how the deprived think. We are living in a compassionate world and hence, should be more forgiving and understanding to those under-privileged. Other than the hardcore cases, I would think that most people commit crimes out of desperation. They are driven to steal, rob, beg or even smuggling just to "make" some money to survive. I do not consider rape as part of poverty, and do not think the rapist should be pardoned in the guise of poverty. It is no excuse to use poverty to commit a crime as serious as raping.
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@ethanmama (1746)
• Philippines
13 Apr 07
I believe that people do forgive. But it is for the victim to decide whether or not to forgive, given the circumstances. The one committing the crime knows that what he did is intrinsically bad and if he gets caught, there's bound to be consequences. If he makes the choice to go in that direction, he should be ready to face the consequences.