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myLot reputation of 89/100. soccermom (1810)   ranked 511 out of 35,013 in people3 years ago

I was watching the news today about the wildfires in California & Florida. It was stated that both fires were believed to have been started by a careless smoker that threw a lit cigarette out. In Cali they were questioning the person they believed was responsible. How do they catch these people? Don't the cigarette butts burn up in the fire?

 
 
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emeraldisle (8978) response was accepted on 5/19/2007.
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tags:  california, wildfires, fire, florida, smoking
 
1. myLot reputation of 89/100. SpitFire179 (1419)   ranked 411 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

hahaha i've wondered the same thing, i thought, you know, for sure the DNA evidence on the filter would have burned off it nothing else by the time they did the checking, but who knows, maybe it's just personal items that they found.
Maybe we should ask them, or maybe, just maybe, it's in their imagination haha...
Oh boy, here i go again, losing my marbles, wanna come find them with me?
I thought aliens for a second, ohh boy i have someone to blame that on:P


myLot reputation of 89/100. soccermom (1810)   ranked 511 out of 35,013 in people  3 years ago

Maybe your marbles are hanging out with mine somewhere! LOL Aliens huh? I always say things must've happened because of the "time people". Ya know the time travelers that must show up when I am asleep and take my car keys, etc...back to their dimension so I can't find them in the morning.


myLot reputation of 89/100. SpitFire179 (1419)   ranked 411 out of 35,013 in people  3 years ago

haha i blame that on the spirits, my house is riddled with them, actually i think they go with me, because their everywhere i go.
I've had a lot of people in my home that don't believe in them, that is, until they actually see things moving through thin air by themselves, or the ornaments on my shelves sliding across, having their hair pulled and such. They steal everything!!!
i'm so tired today, ugh, help me, i'm falling hahaha....
Maybe our marbles are having a party, damn them, they left us to fend for ourselves.....:(

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2. myLot reputation of 88/100. sofia29 (916)   ranked 5,792 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

Haha, I have NO idea and I swear I always ask myself the exact same thing. Maybe they had witnesses?

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3. myLot reputation of 37/100. judyt00 (2726)   ranked 5,019 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

generally, the filter does NOT burn up in the fire, since the area around it burns at a low temperature before it gets big and hot like the wild fires. They simply look for DNA from the filters. They can tell where the fire started because fire usually spreads in a fan shape from the startingpoing, unless the wind shifts or gets too strong and pushes it in one direction.


myLot reputation of 89/100. soccermom (1810)   ranked 511 out of 35,013 in people  3 years ago

Thanks for the response judy. I guess it makes sense, I never thought about hte fire having to start small, when you see them on TV they're always going full force.

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4. myLot reputation of 78/100. SageMother (2093)   ranked 9,578 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

Usually the person confesses to having done something to start the fire. Otherwise law enforcement has no clue.

But....they manage to get many confessions by simply lying about what they know. Police play all sorts of mind games to get confessions if not flat our lying on the paperwork. I am not saying that is true in this instance, but it is true in many situations.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. gabs8513 (19197)   ranked 4,670 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

Yes they do and I don't understand it unless the Person was seen now that would be the only explanation to how they got the Person
I really do not know any other answer

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6. myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13225)   ranked 1,964 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

I am sure the butts do burn up. I think to find the arsonist could only be if they can find witnesses to seeing any suspicious behavior.

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7. myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8978)   ranked 4,932 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

I agree with you that it doesn't make sense. The butts would burn up in the fire. Not only that but how can they determine that a cigarette butt caused it? I've seen my share of butts thrown places that are grassy and dry and never saw it start a fire. Not even a little tiny one. I can't picture how it would cause a fire like that. I admit I could be wrong as one saying I've seen states "Why is it a single match can start a forest fire but a whole box can't start a camp fire?" It just seems odd to me.


myLot reputation of 89/100. soccermom (1810)   ranked 511 out of 35,013 in people  3 years ago

I like your qoute about the camp fire. I couldn't start a campfire with a Zippo and a can of gas! I guess wildfires that start like this are just some sort of freak of nature or something.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8978)   ranked 4,932 out of 35,013 in people  3 years ago

I know what you mean about the camp fir:) I have that trouble too.

I don't know if it's that much of a fluke or if it's just an easy thing to blame. Here in Florida just about every county had a brush fire in it the other day. You can't tell me all of there were done by stray cigarettes, especially since most weren't near residential areas. I think there is more likely a natural cause for them. Just not sure what. It's been so dry. I know back when we first moved to were we live now we had our grass catch fire and the fire department told us that sometimes when it gets too dry and hot the dog's business if not picked up can spontaniously combust. Maybe it's the deers or what have you doing that.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. tinamwhite (1973)   ranked 588 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

I would think that the cigarette would burn up as well....maybe there was a witness.....but I would think that this would be hard to charge them with unless they actually confessed...then how would the authorities actually be "sure" that they had gotten the right person???

Interesting question, my friend....

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9. myLot reputation of 74/100. dragonryder (3573)   ranked 2,047 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

Yes the butts burned up in the fire. But more than likely it was a eye witness. That is truly the only explanation I can come up with on this matter.

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10. myLot reputation of 94/100. Lakota12 (16679)   ranked 195 out of 35,013 in people   3 years ago

some times the fire burns away from the cig so they can get DNA off it only way I can think of

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