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myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889) 5 years ago

We were driving through london to go and visit my relative on the other side of the city. The traffic was slow and concentrated.
We stopped at the traffic lights and realised there was a group of men with squeegees and buckets of soapy water rushing up and down the row of traffic, cleaning the windows and then coming to the drivers window to be paid!
Luckily I had pen and paper as I was navigating and we cross off the directions as we have passed them.I wrote a quick sign saying 'please do not clean our windows' and held it up to the glass and when they came up to us my husband squirted the window and turned on the windscreen wipers. The window cleaners shrugged and moved to the next car.
How many of you have encountered similar 'window cleaning men' and what do you do? Do you let them clean and hand them money , not hand them money or say 'no thanks'?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. danishcanadian (24623)   ranked 505 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

It hasn't happened to me yet, but if it were to happen I would do exactly as you did. I think it is crazy that people can be that intrusive. It really doesn't make any sense to me. If I didn't ask for the service, I'm certainly not going to pay for it, Good for you!


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

Thanks.We wondered if we were going to get any kind of 'payback' for saying no but we didn't!

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. lordwarwizard (10625)   ranked 764 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

Wow.. how.. enterprising!

If they were coming to me, I would roll down my windows and tell them "no thanks". If they insist on cleaning, I would still drive off without paying.

It's like, if I say don't clean my windows, you are irritating me by cleaning them. I don't even know if your rag will scratch my windows. Shoo off or I will call the cops. :P


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

Yes it is enterprising but quite intimidating and yes they could scratch your glass or even your paint.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. anonymili (2935)   ranked 219 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

I have had these jokers coming up to "clean" my windows 5 minutes after I have driven out of a petrol station having paid for a full car wash. I've been abused by people at traffic lights for wanting to clean my windows and I've opened the window and told them not to touch my car. I never pay these guys. I'm sorry but if I want my window cleaned I'll do it myself. If I do want to pay out my hard earned money to people who are working on the side and not paying taxes I might as well just give it out to random people in the job centre. Not meaning to sound too harsh but having worked with long term unemployed people for 4 years and knowing that a large percentage of them are doing work on the side - yes they even admitted it to my face - I have no time for people working without paying tax whilst they are signing on. If people start telling me that these people are poor and they are trying to earn an honest living, well I've been abused enough times by these guys and even by women and know others who have felt intimidated just by pulling up at traffic lights and that's reason enough for me not to give them my money:)


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myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

We felt intimidated but they accepted the no thanks and left us alone. It felt a bit like being bullied to give them money and ofcourse it is quickly done because the traffic lights give them just long enough to get some cash and then the cars have moved on.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. Woodpigeon (2596)   ranked 216 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

Oh I hate that! I rarely have to deal with it but I have a freind that has to do a long commute twice a week by herslef and she is really intimidated and frightened by them. I was in the car in the city with her a coupleof months ago and you could see how tense she was when they approached. Luckily they backed off, but you could ell where there had been incidents where she had to pretend like they wern't there and just suffered whatever abuse they had hurled through her windows.

I wold NOT give them any money, and it is a really sucky position to be put in!


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

Golly sounds like it is a real problem there.
She'll have to write a permanent sign
'This driver carries no money and cannot pay for your window washing' or some such thing.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. MrsWickham1 (366)   ranked 3,024 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

Hell No! sorry, but I do not like others to touch my car. I would be furious for one. for two I don't carry cash so the are SOL. we never go to car washes tht people hold, because i don't trust them to do it right and they may damage my car.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

On a TV program a boy was washing a very nice sports car, dropped the cloth and picked it up to continue his eyes wide as a big scratch appeared where the cloth was gritty. It was only a comedy but I had never thought about that before I saw that.

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. liranlgo (2887)   ranked 2,527 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

this gets me mad everytime. yes, we have those window cleaners, and it seems that they are everywhere.
You can put a note, you can close the window, you can shout, but they still clean your window.
Maybe they have a problem with their head..or maybe they are really clever because they do know that people will give them money if they already cleaned their window.

I know that i am always mad at this, because they never listen to me, and i get even more mad when i hand out the money, because i can not not pay them if they already did the job.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

You can refuse to pay them. You dont have to pay for someone who stands up in the bus to offer their seat,who holds a door open for you or picks up something you dropped and gives it back to you.
Their endevours are unasked for and you dont want them so you are not obliged to pay.
You could say no thanks ,there is nothing with which to pay you. That is not a lie. Even if you carry money it is not for the purpose of paying those who do an unsolicited act and expect money.

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7. myLot reputation of 98/100. tinamwhite (1966)   ranked 563 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

In the area where I live now....I do not run into this problem...but when I lived in some of the larger towns..this has occurred....I do not really have a "set" rule on this...there have been times when I have let them cleaned my windows and given them a couple of bucks; and there have been times when I have waved them off...

For me, there are many determining factors on this....my mood, how much money I have with me, where I was going, and whether they looked like they would utilize the money for alcohol....which I would not contribute to....


myLot reputation of 90/100. lucgeta (791)   ranked 1,204 out of 26,925 in people  5 years ago

That's a very good response, I just want to add that the condition of the car might influence. I used to drive on the road and the windshield gets dirty a lot, so they serve well to a quick clean.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

Thats a good point. If you wish to have your windows cleaned they would be handy and so if they are waiting in a place where cars drive up filthy after the condition of the roads, they would be welcome.
There ought to be a signal they ask for like a wave out of the window,though if they want people to be happy about them. Like the newspaper sellers,selling papers to the traffic who go to the cars they are waved to from.


myLot reputation of 98/100. tinamwhite (1966)   ranked 563 out of 26,925 in people  5 years ago

Thanks so much for awarding me with the "best response"...I think that you had a great number of responses from this discussion...

Appears that unwanted window washers are everywhere...LOL

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8. myLot reputation of 90/100. yanjiaren (5095)   ranked 161 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

I don't drive myself but we get a lot of those in Greece, mainly Gypsies who hang around the roadside. My dad does let them clean them if they are dirty and pays them something. But if his windows are clean he politely tells them that he doesn't want them done. I know it can be annoying to receive a service that is not required lol.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

I have only ever encountered them that one time but I have heard about them before.
I think if I hadn't been with my husband I would have been a bit scared to say no but I still would have said it.

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9. myLot reputation of 87/100. superchook (821)   ranked 4,772 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

Where I live we don't have people do that and as far as I am concerned, if I want my windows clean then I would do it myself. I love what you and your husband did. I think I would do the same sort of thing too. I wonder what would happen if they did it to someone and they didn't have any money.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

I think if they did it when you had no money it would be their tough luck.
What will they do,ask for goods? It is a bit like the highway men of old who would rob the rich people travelling by stage coach.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. lucgeta (791)   ranked 1,204 out of 26,925 in people   5 years ago

There is a lot of windshield cleaners in Brazil and some in the outskirts of major French cities. They usually don't do anything if waved out.
It depends of my mood and if I have any spare coin to handle to accept.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mihimolly (4889)  5 years ago

It's good they will accept 'NO'.
I think they might not be so pleasant everywhere though as they are where you have encountered them.

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