USA to commit national SUICIDE?  

Don't make me laugh. 9/11 an inside job? yes I have heard that too. When do people accept the truth? We know where those guys trained, we know where they lived, we know where the money came from. In the financial world there are trails that cannot be falsified. We saw their last videos. What more do you need. I suppose you also believe that the devastating tsunami was caused by the Americans. No, I am not an American but I read and I think. An independent inquiry? By whom?. The reason why Westerners cannot get along with you is because your propaganda poisons your minds. Please educate yourself.

"USA is getting worse defeat in Iraq & Afghanistan."

In order to achieve success it is essential to be able to evaluate information objectively. Do you really think that is what you are doing? Stating that the USA is being defeated in Iraq or Afganistan is remarkably ill informed. By what measure do you say that the USA is being defeated?

I think both of you need to watch coincidence9/11 series on youtube and try to find the truth unless its too late ..........

i have allready updated myself and have bunch of evidences to prove 9/11 as an inside job ...........

I am sure you would try to update your knowledge not mine .........

Well faraz,
you can believe all those conspiracy theories I don't and I don't consider u-tube a relieable source either. What I do know and what islamic minds don't understand is that it is not in the Western culture to kill each other in this way. Do Americans kill each other at times? yes, no doubt about it but not in this fashion, not in a thousand years.

If you believe the propaganda that you are being fed, then you really need to get an education and start looking at it realistically. Everything that you are looking at has been thoroughly debunked, but I don't supposed you looked any further and did your own research?

"youtube"? Lol, now there is a reputable, reliable source...

Both Iraq and Afganistan were invaded and conquered in short order with a minimun of casualties. What has been costly is trying to establish peaceful post war governments of the people. If the USA was a heartless nation we would have merely deposed of those governments and left those countries in chaos, instead of trying to restore order.

If we invade Iran, I strongly suspect it will be a case of destroying their military targets and nuclear facilities and then be gone. This would be easier to do than it was in Iraq.

Perhaps, we might even let the Iraqi military occupy Iran. Afterall, Iraq and Iran once fought a devestating war. The Iraqi's might now welcome the opportunity to occupy Iran.

Very interesting topic, but i wish to differ with you, gewcew, and other similar sentiments.
I remove emotion to be more objective.
I am neither American nor Iranian, nor an ally of either!
But I believe such matters have to be addressed froma realistic and rational point of view. Presently, please correct me, not even the US has accurate intelligence on Iran's capabilities, but they know for sure it could be devastating.
Iran fought with a US-backed Iraq. We all know how much Ronald Reagan put into that war, and the records are there for anyone's perusal.
As US and its allies were busy on Iraq, Iran was preparing itself and rebuilding its military storehouse.
The UN has sent threat after threat but Iran has refused to give in.
The US has tried to bribe Iran in exchange for you-know-what but it has not worked. At least, they managed to scare North Korea.
Iran continues to give White House a very big headache.
I do not support Iran and its no-holocaust and erase-Iran-from-the-world-map propaganda, but I know for sure that this militarily strong country is capable of annihilating itself in additionto causing mammoth casualties on the US.
Why is it taking so long to stop Iran in its nuclear development?
They have a strategy: as the US speaks via the UN and by itself, Iran is very busy gaining mileage in its development.
I dread to think of what will happen when and if the US shoots a bullet on iran.
Mark my word, that will ignite a holocaust on a global scale. One thing for sure, Israel will be no more in less than a week. The Israelis are awre of that fact, and it bothers the US very muvh because they are cognisance of such a fact.
Iran should not be underestimated.

"Attacking Iran is neither necessary or smart. If we botched it, they could nuke us!"

Currently, they can not nuke us. There is reason to believe that if we wait, they will nuke us no matter what, as soon as they can. This being the case, it would be both necessary and smart to attack Iran now. An attack, now, would not have to be nuclear as Iran currently does not have those kind of weapons. A non nuclear attack now, which prevents Iran from ever having nuclear weapons would sacrifice fewer lives now than would be lost later after Iran had nuclear weapons.

Have you not heard the President of Iran talk about the desirability of hastening the return of the 12th Imman? Did you know this requires the coming of the apocalypse? Do you really want such a man to have nuclear weapons?

The way the leaders of Iran are talking makes me think it is suicide to not attack them.

(I've been doing research since I first read and replied to this)

Kay, so they don't have nukes.
But I don't believe that's it's RIGHT to nuke them.
Just because they may eventually get bombs, doesn't necessarily mean they're a threat. The other day they accused Iranian's major defenses as terrorist group -- which I have so far heard no evidence supporting this claim.
Besides..commit mass genocide? On a MAYBE?
I'm all for protecting this country, but goddamn..committing genocide on a "maybe we'd be in trouble from this country"..is a teensy bit extreme I think. And now I know that Israel's actuall pushing us to attack Iran -- so that leads me to think that maybe Israel's more of a danger than Iran is.
They do have nukes, don't they? And it looks like they're more than willing to commit murder -- if only indirectly.

But again..that's taking sides. Which we SHOULDN'T do. Regardless. if you heard what Cheney said waaay back in the day, back when he was kinda..smarter (apparently). He said in our situation basically..leavingwould mean that the middle east would tear itself apart -- and hell, I'm inclined to believe that. If you're so busy fighting yourselves..you don't have time to fight someone else, eh? I mean think about it..so many groups over there hate eachother..some have grudges that go back a loooong time.
If we really want to get rid of a threat..well then, let them kill eachother. Don't nuke them.

Besides. If Iran really has a terrorist group...according o the media, the terrorists already HAVE nukes or otherwise other harmful bombs. So who's to believe?

Suicide, or genocide. I don't think either's very good.

In no way was I advocating the committing of genocide against Iran. The point of the article was that Iran's president was threatening the USA with genocide if the USA attacked Iran, conventionally or nuclear.

Your idea to just leave the middle east alone to sort things out amoung themselves is a good idea. Why we did not adapt that as a policy a long time ago is a question being asked by a lot of people.

Yes, you are right. In the case of Iran, they should be much more aware of what the USA can do.

Ronald Reagan had practically the entire Iranian Navy sunk when he was President. Have the Iranians forgotten already?

The USA totally defeated the Iraqi military in a month whereas the Iranians fought the Iraqi's for 8 years to a stalemate. Have the Iranians forgotten already?

The current fighting in Iraq is merely mopping up against insurgents. Emotional relgious fanatics from around the Muslim world are being suckered into a killing machine. The insurgents are currently losing over 1500 killed per month. The world media is co-operating by reporting the news as if the USA is losing, causing even more poor deluded zealots to be lured to their deaths. The legal government of Iraq is even on the side of the USA. The government of Iraq that was before the USA invaded is gone. Saddam was hung as a criminal. Have the Iranians forgotten already?

The Iranians should remember that what the USA has done before and elsewhere it can do now and in Iran.