Utopia: Possibility, or Impossible Dream  |
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| Okay, now that I posted the dystopia thread, here is the utopia thread. For review sake. Utopia is basically a perfect or near-perfect human society. You can take this discussion as you wish but I want to get your thoughts on this side of the scope too. Looking at the current world and current state of human affairs, do you think utopia is possible? If it is possible, please share. If not, state why. You can also state the type of utopia you think is possible or you views in general. Personally, I do not think a true utopia will exist, but I do believe there is better for humanity. I believe there will be a time people will finally be able to come together the likes of which humanity never rationally thought possible. Maybe its more faith in me speaking, but thats how I feel on it. Please share what you think about this. I'd like to see how this and the other discussion go. | | | | | |
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1. OreoCookie3 (22470)
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5 years ago
| | Utopia can't exist because everyone has their own minds and their own ideas. We will never always agree, and there will always be conflict. We can compromise, and negotiate, but we will never have a true utopia, maybe until we all get to heaven or wherever we all are going. | | | | | | |
theprogamer (7491)
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5 years ago
| | Good one, somewhere along the lines of where I believe. Things can be better with people, factions, nations, but a true utopia seems pretty far off. It can be close, but it a real utopia, forget it. Again Oreo, thanks for joining in! | | | |
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theprogamer (7491)
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5 years ago
| | Awesome perspective and you are right, there are some fundamental tools toward a peaceful society. I don't believe in a real utopia, but there is a chance of bettering society and further understanding between humans. | | | |
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3. hickusdickus1 (251)
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5 years ago
| | Utopia, where every body gets along and is nice to each other. Holy mackeral I think I would become functionaly constipated with bordom. I can't imagine getting on my lot and not being able to irritate the goobers,having to smile at everybody and be polite to the born again christians and, OMG have to invite the jehovas witnesses for sit down chat fest. I don't think utopia is such a good idea. One thought I can not bear is not being able to fart in public. I have an idea lets have a special place set aside where we can go on vacation and for 2 weeks we can be total arseholes. I will be the resort manager year round , for free. | | | | | | |
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4. tigerdragon (3165)
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5 years ago
| | We all are unanimous in saying that utopia is just a fantasy and it can never be a reality, possibility and which should not happen!Why? because that is not humanly acceptable.ask ourselves this, how would we learn if everything is perfect or near perfect? We do not want to lose our identity, everyone is striving to be differently independent and if one one rule dictates everyones moves then there would more chaos.We would like be machines , like the ones we see in the movies where everyone is bald and wearing white . | | | | | | |
theprogamer (7491)
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5 years ago
| | Good point Tiger and those bald machinelike people wearing white were in the books before the movies. It does seem humanity needs its differences in order to be unique, to learn and to strive for the better. When I get find it, I'll post or summarize a philosophical thought I had on utopia. Stay tuned. Thanks for dropping in! | | | |
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5. ciades (838)
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5 years ago
| | Yeh, i think so.. it is possible. There are certain community or organization that i've known and read. Like the Brook Farm. Brook Farm is a cooperative community established in 1841 in west roxbury that now is part of Boston. As a joint stock company by leaders of the philosophical movement known as transcendentalism. This community was organized as the Brook Far Institute of Agriculture of Education on a farm nearly 80 hectares or 200 acres. You can read and also search the prototype of political utopias like "The REpublic". The Republic is a philosophic work written by Plato in the form of a dialogue, an inquiry into the nature of justice and the organization of a perfect society. The work is a lengthy exposition of the ideas underlying Platos earlier dialogues and is an attempt to invite rational, ethical and religious principles.:) | | | | | | |
theprogamer (7491)
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5 years ago
| | Yep, I've reviewed what you've posted Cia, years back :) Definitely worth some time if one is interested in topics like this. Yes most of the material is lengthy, but it does take time and effort to build up an argument or even a concept of utopia. | | | |
ciades (838)
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5 years ago
| | YOU know what? i really learned a lot from here. Your topic is much with sense. Honestly i just only researched it when i read this topic of yours dear.:). BUt still i think it is possible or maybe? I don't know exactly..But i guess??.. if human is perfect maybe it can be possible.:0 | | | |
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6. Pompon (1200)
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5 years ago
| | No it is not possible to live in Utopia. It would mean that everyone would be happy, and happiness means different things for each one of us. Sometimes what you think is unfortunate is exactly what other wants it to be. We're the same specie but we're also inviduals and building Utopia always ends with killing uniqeness in order to make one scheme of happines. | | | | | | |
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7. liperoterachel (10130)
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5 years ago
| | Mans need for drama will never alow it! Its a wonderful idea but I don't think anyone would actually want it. I think the hardships make us what we are! I think they are part of are humanity. Rachel | | | | | | |
theprogamer (7491)
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5 years ago
| | Indeed, I can see it from that perspective too. Hickus trolled a point similar to this but used himself and mylot as the example ;p Great discussion everyone, if anything else comes to mind post it and if needed I will comment on it. | | | |
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8. 3lilangels (2960)
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5 years ago
| | well i believe that we could never have one because we are our own person and everybody has their own opinions and for some reason it will never come to a compromise,we all have a different reason,it would be great to see us in this world all compromise some day,what a blessing that would be.great discussion.pattie | | | | | | |
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9. jillhill (17704)
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5 years ago
| | It has been said the communism in it's purest form is utopia. But that hasn't turly succeeded. Would utopia be a wonderful state to live in or would it be boring. Everyone the same...having the same thing..not having a goal that is higher? A better world where there is equality would be as close as we could get. I'm banking on improvement with each generation. | | | | | | |
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10. artemis432 (2212)
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5 years ago
| | Okay I'm going to get New Agey on you in my reply. There are those like author Doreen Virtue who believe in the starseed children, the Crystal, Indigo and Rainbow children who are here to guide us into this new world. The indigos are usually teens or young people now and they are the warrirs and they fight for truth and ethics and fairness and the like while the Crystals are newer and are more laid back and compassionate and they are healers. All are thought to be psychic and to communicate telepathically. Those who believe think that the rise in Autistic children isn't due to vaccines or preservatives in our food or more knowledge but Crystal Children. Supposedly the new children aren't Autistic in the classic sense, they interact with others and are very affectionate - they jut are non-talkers and don't talk until later. Their parents claim to communicate with them just fine. The people who believe in this believe we are moving towards a more spiritual world. That these children will be our teachers and our guides. I believe that this whole 2012 thing isn't so much an end to the world but the end of the world as we know it. We can either become warring tribes - each to their own -whoever has more resources has more power or we work together - towards an even better world then before when greed and materialism had its way. And yes I'm a closet materialistic - even if I'd be willing to give it all away to someone who needs it or - for this more perfect world. Did I answer your question or confuse you or both? Uh oh after all this talk about the new children you'll never visit my discussions again. Oh well. This is me, I read the Celestine Prophecy and saw a lot of truth. Flaky as that makes me! | | | | | | |
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