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myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434) 5 years ago

A dear friend of mine has a grandmother who is the epitome of the genteel, southern lady. Some years ago, when my friend was a child, he and his little brother went out to eat with his grandmother. During the meal, his younger brother farted, but he neglected to properly lift his buttocks, which resulted in such a noisy vibration on his chair that it garnered the attention of several of his fellow diners.

His grandmother looked at him and said, "One must lift their buttocks when attempting that maneuver at the table. Otherwise, it vibrates too much."

Do you think this is accurate? Should one lift a cheek or two when farting while seated? What is your preferred method?

I wonder what Mrs. Manners would say about the proper way to fart in public. Also, what if a fart turns into a shart?

 

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zigzagbuddha (1845) response was accepted on 11/24/2007.
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tags:  fart, farting, manners, barroom, bathroom
 
1. myLot reputation of 89/100. hyzz1982 (506)   5 years ago

i have no idea about that. the little boy is just a kid. people need to ask him do everything like a gentlman. the politer old lady should not ask too much abuout a child.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

How can the politer old lady not ask too much of the child and at the same time expect him to act like a gentleman? Also, would a gentleman lift two cheeks or one?

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2. myLot reputation of 64/100. BayleighGray (1788)   ranked 1 out of 11 in etiquette   5 years ago

You never cease to amaze me Trans. *shaking my head*

I am a lady, and I do not fart in my chair. I go to the bathroom and sit on the toilet. I feel most comfortable there. I guess on some occasions there have been times when one escapes me, but for the most part I will do what I can to get to a bathroom and pronto! This will also eliminate the shart you mentioned and any mess it might create.

Although I feel I have inhierited many attributes from my Grandma Pearl, this was not one of them. She would do it anywhere, anytime without lifting a cheek, probably because she sat on a donut most of her life to releave her hemorrhoid inflamation, and then blamed it on her dead dog. She even carried this inflatable donut to restaurants and family gatherings. Aaah its no wonder Im the way I am!

Bay Lay Gray xx


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

No offense, Bay, but you may want to learn the proper farting in public protocol for those days when one escapes you before you can escape to the toilet.

As for the donut and your Grandma Pearl's dead dog, I'm cracking up big time here, Bay! :)


myLot reputation of 64/100. BayleighGray (1788)   ranked 1 out of 11 in etiquette  5 years ago

Well glad that I could make you laugh.

As for the farting.....I really dont have a problem with that. Thank goodness!! lol

Bay xx

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3. myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11669)   ranked 5 out of 11 in etiquette   5 years ago

OMG, it's a wonder the gentell, southern lady didn't get a bad case of the vapors! I must have missed that part of etiquette class; maybe I was in the restroom?
Annie


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Ah yes, the vapors. You may have missed this part of etiqutte class, anniepa, but I suspect you know more than you're letting on about this.

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. lecanis (7304)   ranked 2 out of 11 in etiquette   5 years ago

Transdisc, yet another overly serious discussion from you? Will you never lighten up? *sighs dramatically*

I really don't what the proper etiquette is for farting in public. To be quite honest, I don't think I've ever thought about it. If I were at someone's table and they lectured me for my "farting style", I would say they were being crasser than I by mentioning it. Even if they were a genteel Southern lady, of which I have known quite a few.

As for the sharting issue, that's when you make excuses and run. :P


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

You bring up an excellent point about lecturing one on one's farting style, lecanis. Also, on how to react to sharting. ;)

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 4 out of 11 in etiquette   5 years ago

First of all I'm surprised that since the grandmother is the epitome of the genteel, southern lady, that she would be aware of the proper way of farting while sitting down, and it sounds like she has one over on Mrs. Manners.
I have to confess, the sound of farting is more noticeable when one doesn't raise one's buttocks to properly expel the wind and there is a slight vibration that will exist. As for that fart turning into a shart, hasn't happened while sitting down..so far anyway, but have had that experience at other times


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Alas, I've also had occasion to shart, pyewacket. But as you have related, never while seated.

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6. myLot reputation of 72/100. barehugs (5855)   5 years ago

What is the difference between an Elephants Fart and a Bar Room?
Well thats easy!- a bar room is a place to go for a drink, and an Elephants Fart is a BARROOOM! Any how, I have no idea how to fart in Public, but I've heard that the Queen enjoys a short Walk after a Meal!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

BARROOOM! Heehee! Thank You!

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7. myLot reputation of 99/100. diecaster (391)   5 years ago

Being the product of a rather snooty prep school for my sophmore and senior years, I can report that the proper method of releasing a trouser sneeze was never a sub-topic, let alone a main topic of the classes in etiquette that we we forced to endure. I can tell you, however, the proper way to remove a piece of gristle or other unpalatable piece of foodstuff that must be removed from the mouth while still seated at the table.

That said, one must consider, when faced with the impending release of bodily gases within the confines of an eatery of any class or rating, that the overall auditory effect will be influenced by the type of seating furniture provided. E.g., a wooden chair, while rarely found these days, will produce much more resonance than a soft, thickly cushioned chair found in most 4 or 5 star establishments. Proper compression of one cheek, with a slight rise, though not breaking contact with the seat, can actually increase the volume of said methane release.

You should be warned that those back to back booths in some of the older style diners will be able to transmit your seat vibrations to the chap or gal seating with his/her back to you in the adjoining booth. I know.

I would be curious to know if the referenced genteel lady of fine upbringing was able to coach her young relative in the subtle method of cheek raising, without raising the interest of those seated at the same table, or more importantly, those at surrounding tables. This is a fine art, and I must admit that often a misdirection of your dinner companion's attention to another portion of the establishment has worked well for me in the past. One can put on a look of astonishment, and slightly raise up in your seat, pretending to look at some unknown vision of interest across the room, thus forcing you companions to take their eyes from you.

And lest we forget, the disussion of the scent wafting through the atmosphere after the release must now be taken up. Simply put, worry not, oh dear donator of the methane. Remember to remain calm, and never immediately agree when another remarks on the odiferous atmosphere. Kindly remind the olfactory observer that "He who smelt it , dealt it!" Your innocence is thus irrefutable.

As to the sharts, in this part of the country we refer to them as electical farts, you know, ones with a little juice to them.

I will now close, having spent perhaps too much time on this vital topic. I apologize for the long winded pun intended) oratory.

diecaster


myLot reputation of 78/100. ladyluna (2495)  5 years ago

You're too funny, Diecaster.

As for those back to back booths in fine eateries, I can attest to the accuracy of the resonance being detectable in the neighboring booth. Of course, this would depend on the quality of the cushioning of said booths. Though, I seem to recall an instance where I was accutely aware of the progress of another diner's meal, by way of shared booth resonance.

Perhaps the key to avoiding this kind of shared experience is to seek out eateries with substantive cushioning?


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

Please forgive me for not responding earlier, die. I don't know what distracted me but I forgot all about this most important of discussions.

It is interesting that you brought up the type of seating furniture provided because the grandmother in question actually did discuss this matter with her naive young charges. I don't know if they were more impressed with their grandmother's informtation provide, or the fact that she had such wisdom in this area.

Thank you for such a learned response. I am humbled by your own wisdom.

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8. myLot reputation of 87/100. zigzagbuddha (1845)   5 years ago

You have to have excellent control of the anus, then you're able to control the 'speed of departure'. When you can do that it really doesn't matter whether you lift a cheek or not, although it helps to circulate the air and dissipate any odors. (oh shudder)

And I'm too much the genteel lady myself to even discuss sharts. Especially with strangers.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

I take it that we must be formally introduced and perhaps even become friends before you'll charm me with your shart knowledge, zigzag? You already impressed me with your fart knowledge.


myLot reputation of 87/100. zigzagbuddha (1845)  5 years ago

Why thank you Transdisc! Yeah, I impress myself sometimes - on the rare occasions when I'm not embarrassing myself.

I will gladly call you friend! You have carved a permanent place in my heart with your profound wit and intelligent discussions... not to mention the BR that I so LOVE receiving!

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9. myLot reputation of 93/100. nerdytina (2037)   5 years ago

It depends upon how much room I have at the table, Transdisc. Usually I stand up and announce my decision to fart during a meal.

And if it turns into a shart, well, it is what it is, and I just deal with it.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

This is an awesome response, nerdytina! You never cease to amaze me.

When are you coming back?

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10. jutmyne (30)   5 years ago

I believe that in order to avoid an unwanted vibration it has to be a controled silent one or a natural S.B.D but then those tend to gain their very own "ATT."


myLot reputation of 96/100. mfpsassy (1178)   ranked 10 out of 11 in etiquette  5 years ago

And in the very rare case (heaven forbid) mine actually are audible. You are standing on the other side of the bathroom door hollering "I heard that!"


myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)  5 years ago

The SBD's have a mind of their own, jutmyne. They are inhuman!

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