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myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682) 5 years ago

We are moving in the next few weeks, and my excitement level is growing by the minute, but so is my anxiety. I have always lived in an apartment with no outdoor space of my own. Our new place, however, has a screened-in, roof-covered patio, which means I now have the opportunity to buy outdoor stuff. LOTS of outdoor stuff. My problem is that I don't know what to buy, and I have a lot of related questions. Really, I am downright clueless.

I live in a climate with harsh winters and somewhat hot and definitely sticky summers, which will definitely influence what I will or won't want to purchase.

I want to buy a table and chair set. The set will stay outdoors year round, but I will store the cushions indoors when the weather turns colder. So what materials hold up the longest over the course of several winters? Painted metal? Plastic? Resin? Wicker? Wood? How about a glass tabletop versus any other kind of tabletop?

I really like the idea of indoor/outdoor rugs. From what I have read, all I will need to do to clean it is a quick rub with a mild detergent for spot cleaning and then hosing it off. Sounds easy enough. For those of you who have these, is this how you clean them? Can they stay outdoors year round, or will I need to roll it up and bring it in during the winter? Odds are that snow will pile up on it and the whole thing may freeze and thaw several times during the season. It will freeze. Will this destroy it? What else do I need to know?

There are no power outlets in the patio room, and I cannot do any wiring work because we are renting the property. Besides candles or running an extension cord from inside, how can I light the room?

I am looking forward to your opinions and advice. There are so many of you who have experience in this area and I can't wait to hear from all of you.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11761)   5 years ago

woohoo!! Congrats
OK lets see
What material the furniture is depends on whether you will be moving it around alot or if it will stay in one place and not be moved at all.
I personally prefer treated wood but its heavy and cant be easily moved about if need be
Resin is ok, its durable for the most part but cheap and tackey looking IMO
Wicker is not all that durable. It falls apart quickly
Maybe metal would be the way to go.
The table top I dont think really matters
It is more of a personal preference vs. functionality issue
Someone with small kids would definately NOT want a glass top table LOL
The rugs I have no idea about but I dont think that you would have to roll them up for the winter
There are designed to be outside in the elements right?
Now lighting - hmmmmno outlet and cant rewire?
That could be tricky
Wait I found something for you
Check out this site
They have rechargeable battery operated lanterns (so cute!)
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myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

The only time I will be moving the furniture would be to clean the rug. Otherwise, the furniture will stay in place.

No kids, and I like the look of glass. Plus, SO easy to clean!

About the rug, that was what I was thinking - as long as I don't move it when it is frozen, I was thinking I could leave it in place all winter.

The lanterns on that page are PERFECT. Just perfect. I already bookmarked the site so I can buy SEVERAL. Thank you SO MUCH! Outstanding find!


myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11761)  5 years ago

Arent those lanterns cute?
I may have to buy a couple myself
They would even work in case of power outage!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

Oh, GOD YES! Another brilliant idea.

So I am thinking that I can just buy those hooks you screw into the ceiling or find longer ones and screw them into the walls and attach the lanterns to those. And then place two on the table. How cool would that look??


myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11761)  5 years ago

That would be very cool!

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2. myLot reputation of 71/100. theprogamer (7491)   ranked 832 out of 5,520 in shopping   5 years ago

I've seen more metal and plastic from family members and friends places. Though plastic is a bit better in summer for less heat, this can still vary (I got a nice burn one time, so I should know.) Wicker is pretty good too, but I've heard varying stories from others. At least wicker and weave can't stick like some plastics and leather. It also isn't as open to heating like metals. Some sets allow you to stack up the items and put them off to the side either outside or inside. Just cover them up with a cloth or suitable item. As for glasstops, some of those are pretty neat. Don't know how they'd fare in winter, but it doesn't seem like anything drastic could happen. Oh wait its screened-in. Yea I think most of your items will be fine! If it was directly outside, then some of what I say applies to it. For lighting your area, maybe you can try the pod tap lights that use batteries. Of course this could get wasteful easily. So maybe there could be a lamp or two you could use and connect from the inside like you say. Rugs, I don't know about outside ones. If I use one on the outside its usually one I take in at the end of a day. If I think of anything else I'll post it. Hopefully Hmmmmmm, you'll get other peoples posts on this since my experience here only goes so far. Still willing to help though.

Oh and grats and Woot on your new place!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

Those tap lights make me laugh. I would have to buy Energizer stock if I went that route.

I am having a really hard time trying to decide which room to throw money at first. I need to prioritized. It snowed here today. On the other hand, now seems like an ideal time to get great prices on outdoor stuff in our area...

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3. myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)   5 years ago

I would love having a screened in patio! I have thought about doing that to my small little patio that is roof covered because we've also got a huge non-covered patio coming off it. Anyway...
When I went shopping for outdoor furniture I didn't want to get cushions. They look great but I just new I would hate bringing them in and out every time it threatened rain. Though you don't have to worry about that too much - or you could just get some plastic to through over them instead of bringing them in - except of course in the winter. So in that case I would get cushions. I was able though to find some rather comfortable non-cushion table set. I bought painted metal that I really like. Plastic is just too light (and I try to avoid buying plastic when I can). I suppose I would buy wood. But wicker is not really my style so much. But if you like it I would think it's pretty durable. I have a glass table top and when I was a kid my parents had a painted metal one. I just think the glass looks better. Though I'm sure I'll curse the day if I ever break it LOL. Ours is quiet durable though and has made it through some nasty storms.

I've never had any experience with outdoor rugs.

Lighting...I think I would stick with a nice candle chandelier and/or some oil lamps. That's probably your best bet other than some battery operated lights.

Good luck and let us know what you settle on!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

The screened-in patio was a big selling point - especially because the view off the back is woods and a rock ledge. We love eating outside and my boyfriend lives to grill. I am completely looking forward to this move.

I want soft, cushy, comfortable chairs. Frankly, we have some great outdoor folding chairs, but I want a patio set. It threatens to rain here A LOT. The roof will help some, but if it is windy, then the cushions will get wet, no question. So where did you get your cushionless comfortable set?

Wicker isn't really my style either, but if it was comfortable and held up well, I would be willing to go that route. I think the plastic stuff just looks cheap.


myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)  5 years ago

I agree the plastic stuff does look cheap.

I bought our set at Walmart. I won't say they're just as comfortable as cushions but they are pretty comfortable.
I just went on there online store to see if they had anything like the one I got but they don't.
What is really cool now though is they've got the sectional couches for outside. Of course those do have cushions and they're like $500 but they are so neat looking.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

Thanks for checking the site for your set (or something similar) - I really do appreciate it. I actually have several sets from walmart.com bookmarked.

I have seen some absolutely beautiful sets (including those sectionals you mentioned) priced in the thousands, but even if we wanted to spend that kind of money, there's no way they would hold up for even a year in our climate. But wow, wouldn't those be lovely?!!


myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)  5 years ago

LOL - I know what you mean about the affordablity and the climate!! But yeah they'd be lovely!

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4. myLot reputation of 81/100. copperkitten (2086)   ranked 389 out of 5,520 in shopping   5 years ago

Lets see. As far as an indoor out door carpet goes there great. I have one on both my porches and leave them year round. When they need cleand I pull out the vacuum and vacuum them. Simple as that. A Glass Table is a good Idea as well. They seem to hold up pretty well to abuse. I would take it in the house in the winter though so it dosent get cold and crack. Plastic top tables are better because you can leave them out. I prefer Plastic chairs on my porch. There easy to clean and can be left out. The padded ones tend to hold in smells and can get moldy when wet. You would have to bring them in everytime it rains or snows. Wood furniture is nice but make sure its trated wood or it will swell in the winter. Which could cause tears in the wood. I dont have any ideas about lighting. Maybe a few candles or battery opperated lanterns. I hope I have helped some and not confued you. Good luck with the new place!!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

The mold possibility on the cushions concerns me. I would think it would grow on high humidity days too, and we certainly get a lot of those.

I won't be able to bring any of the furniture inside during the winter months. As huge as the place is, there is no room inside for it... So maybe glass isn't the best option after all?


myLot reputation of 81/100. copperkitten (2086)   ranked 389 out of 5,520 in shopping  5 years ago

If you dont have room to bring it in you have to get furniture that will with stand diffrent weather. Treated wood, plastic, and metal are your best options.

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5. myLot reputation of 33/100. MaxPower1971 (661)   5 years ago

Well I'm big on outdoor living,but like you I live in a very harsh climate zone(Quebec).

First off,Furniture:Resins are difinately the longest-lasting exterior furniture you can buy.Resins have come a long way since it was introduced,and there are many new styles and shapes.Wood is definately NOT a good choice as it will rot in no time unless it's creosote treated,but you dont want pressure treated furniture lol.Metal rusts,and wicker is not very good in cold climates.

I love outdoor rugs,but unfortunately,you have to treat them like interior rugs:Take your shoes off and vacuum all the time.I would not recommend one to stay out all winter because it will rot.

Exterior lights come in solar power modes now.The best for your non-wiring situation.They come in strings or singles.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

Very interesting about resin. Got any furniture brands or stores to recommend?

I think I am going to have to get the rug. The patio floor is so hideous that I won't want to look at it every day (from what I remember, it is painted gray, but I am going back early next week to take pictures and measurements). The patio - even with the screens, will have snow on it in the winter, so it won't be as hard on the eyes.

Ahh, solar-powered lighting. Good call! There's a legend that we only get 23 days of sunlight per year. So at least they will work for a couple of weeks during the summer. :)

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. chertsy (2912)   ranked 827 out of 5,520 in shopping   5 years ago

I have a nicely sized covered porch, so I have 2 wicker chairs and a small table on one side of my front door and a wicker loveseat, 2 chairs, and a bigger table on the other. I like the look of wicker, but have resin so it lasts longer and handles the weather very well. I keep mine outside all year long and we get really hot summers and cold winters. You can get cushions that are comfortable and at the same time weather proof. Not being covered, sometimes I have to bring them in, not fun watching a cushion flying in the wind, lol. This year we got a covering to go over our patio, which explains the loveseat, 2 chairs and bigger table.

If you think of wicker, go with resin. Don't forget to get some plants. If you go with candles, don't forget to get those that keep bugs away. Indoor/outdoor rugs can still mildew, so after cleaning hang it up so it has the chance to dry faster. Most of all just have fun, look around for the best price. You can find all outside furniture at most places in the spring time, it won't be cheap, so save now.

Also you can get solar lights to light around the patio, so many to chose from. They cost more but at least you don't have to worry about your electric bill going up or wiring problems. Plus you can just put them anywhere you want to. Again, most of all just have fun.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

So that's two votes for resin now. You have any shopping site or store suggestions?

So it seems the requirements for cushions are the word "weatherproof" and TIES so they can be attached to the furniture, huh? :)

I am so looking forward to doing some patio gardening. Where we live now, we get absolutely no sunlight whatsoever, and I have missed having plants (I prefer those that do require sunlight). I have even already picked out some sturdy plant stands.


myLot reputation of 97/100. chertsy (2912)   ranked 827 out of 5,520 in shopping  5 years ago


Best bet to find a store that sells resin are places like Lowes, Home Depot, Big Lots. The cushions are found in the same places. They come in so many styles, so look around and don't forget to get the best price.

We get to much sun during the summer months. A trick for watering your plants are to get a gallon size bucket. Leave it out when it's raining to collect water. You can also use one of those ice cream buckets to collect water that drips from your ac. This past summer my flowers would have died if I didn't do this. With plants, don't get anything to big that once winter comes it takes up to much space in your new home. If you have a green thumb, you can get plants at walmart that's wilting really cheap and bring it back to life.


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7. myLot reputation of 78/100. ladyluna (2495)   5 years ago

Jumping up & down, hearty congrat's to you, my friend! So, when is the big move?

Being a former Upstate New Yorker, I am going to dissuade you from any kind of wood set. Plastics/resins as well. The cold is really tough on the plastics, and the moisture is hard on woods. Our patio set in the arbor is powder coated wrought iron. Can't go wrong with wrought iron. The powder coating keeps it from getting too hot in the summer, so there's no sticking or burning. And, they hold up perfectly well in the cold/snowy weather as well. We were able to find a set with rocking chairs that are so comfortable that we don't even use cushions.

As for lighting, there are many fabulous solar light options these days. Copper, brushed stainless steel, etc... Many shapes/sizes and applications are available. Many have a small solar collector that you can set atop the roof, with a tiny wire running into the light.

Another lighting option, besides candles, is low voltage rope lighting. You would have to either run an extension cord, or you could use a solar adaptor, as described above.

When we have evening gatherings at the house, we use wrought iron tiki torches. I say tiki torch just to help create a mental impression. They don't look anything like the old fashioned Polynesian style torches. They're beautiful in fact, with lovely scroll work. They're fueled by torch fuel, and a lantern wick. As I recall, Hubby picked them up at Lowe's Home Improvement. We also run low voltage rope lights, off of an extension cord. They add a touch of elegance and festivity. The cord hides fairly easily. Then, when the guests have left, I roll the rope lighting back up, & put it away.

As for the rug, I don't know what kind of floor your patio has. If it is wood, or stone, I'm not sure that a rug is necessary. I did use indoor/outdoor carpeting once, many years ago and wasn't very happy with it. It was the tacky fake grass looking kind of rug. It was actually pretty nasty! Our current patio flooring is stone. So, it looks fabulous without any kind of carpeting.

If you really have your heart set on a rug, perhaps a bamboo option will work. It will hold up fairly well to the weather, and needs only be vacuumed, spot cleaned, or wiped down with a mild detergent. Some of the bamboo rugs available these days are nice enough to use in a formal living room. Or, you could use a thin pile wool rug. Ya' know, like a Navajo rug. Wool can tolerate weather, and can be easily rolled up for winter storage. If you do choose a wool option, do make sure to insert moth ball protection for winter storage. It will keep the moths away, and the mice too!

I'm just going to throw this out there, and you can do with it whatever you choose. Have you considered making some wood inserts covered with a transparent plastic for the winter? Essentially, you could save yourself the headache of having to store cushions & rugs by closing out the weather. I did this with our first screened in patio. It's easy enough to do, and if done well, it looks nice as well. All you would need is some simple 1" x 1 " wood furring strips, rolled plastic, and a staple gun. Size & connect the furring strips to match the size(s) of your screen areas, then attach the plastic to the inserts. You can tack them in place with nails, or use an old fashioned butterfly closure to hold them in place. You will end up being able to use your outdoor space through most of the seasons. Just an idea.

Anyway, good luck with the move ... and enjoy your new home!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Hmmmmm (1682)  5 years ago

You are the first to mention wrought iron, which is ironic (ha) because I was just looking at a set and thinking that I forgot to include it in my list of potential substances when I started this discussion.

I have asked for a copy of the lease so I can review the rules, but my guess is that they aren't fans of anything being mounted on the roof, so the collector will have to be inside the patio. We should still get enough sunlight to use them.

We actually buy the cheap tiki torches for camp because they do an excellent job of keeping the bugs away while simultaneously providing ambient lighting. I have seen the iron and copper ones, and they are beautiful. I have a few different ones bookmarked for future purchases, only because I thought they were just that beautiful. Again though, they might not be allowed, so I will have to check the lease.

As far as the floor goes, if I remember correctly, it is painted cement. We saw so many apartments that day that ultimately the place we chose is a bit of a blur. I can't even remember where the downstairs bathroom is. I am going back this week to measure and to take hundreds of pictures so that the blur goes away.

Your wood insert suggestion is a fabulous one. I will definitely look into doing that.

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. mtdewgurl74 (11320)   ranked 180 out of 5,520 in shopping   5 years ago

indoor outoor carpet is great I don't think you will have to take it in,but it will last longer if you did maybe. It is easy to clean as you stated. I think for the furniture, I can tell you from my own experience that wood is the best(In my own opinion) and last the longest..my great granny kept a rocker on her porch for 20 years and it is now put up but still together..I have had the metal the resin and when the resin gets cold it cracks easier and after a few years of use it weakens and tends to break. If you get a glass table then try to get a good thick glassed one something your not always worried your gonna bust or if someone comes over that they are going to bust it. Or you could use another type of your choice. For the lighting..You could run an extention cord and use a surge master something that has multiple plug in areas so you can use it to plug in more then one thing. One of those tall lamps might work but here is what my hubby did since our living room didn't have any lights in it. He bought some cord and a plug and a light fixture and some wire nuts and black tape and fixed us a light to the ceiling you can even install a switch that runs on the out side walls but make sure it can plug in to a wall as well because that is what he did so we can use the switch to turn it on and off. and it can be unplugged when needed. I would make sure to contact a Lowe's or Home depot for more info on installing your own lighting or get a self help book.

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