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myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies2 years ago

As I was watching Superman Returns this morning it occurred to me that it seems odd that movie studios would choose different stars to play the lead in a series. I know this has been happening dating all the way back to the old Tarzan movies. There was also a change of lead star in each Batman movie, if I remember correctly. Does this detract from the continuity of the series to you? I would much rather see the same actor portray the lead character in each movie.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10229)   ranked 63 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

I'm with you on htis one, only problem is the stars demand so much more money to stay the lead in the different sequels. Sideline, you know Michele Pfieffer? I went to school with her she's a snot!!Lori


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

I think you are right, dbd. Money does often enter into it. Also, I believe the actors might sometimes have a fear of being typecast. I really can believe that about Michele Pfieffer!

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. houndsgood (597)   ranked 1,774 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

I don't think Superman Returns was meant to be a "sequel" to the other superman films - more like a "remake" or a "new adventure" using the same characters. There have been many films and characters in movies remade or used over and over in different ways. I didn't know I would feel seeing someone else besides Christopher Reeve as superman - i thought it would sort of bury his memory but it made more people interested in going back and watching the series that he starred in too.

I think that with Batman movies - each was treated as a seperate adventure rather than a "trilogy" like the Star Wars series, for example where one directly built upon the other. So changing actors really wasn't as big as a deal then.


myLot reputation of 99/100. rx4life (1049)   ranked 582 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

I agree...not a sequel...a new adventure!!


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

Not that I want to date myself, houndsgood, but I remember the Superman TV series starring George Reeves from the 50s, and there is a striking resemblance between all the actors that have played the role. I feel that any time you have a series of TV shows or movies based on the same character they are a series-whether intended or not. Same characters, same theme music, same series.


myLot reputation of 92/100. houndsgood (597)   ranked 1,774 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

Maybe they cast the actors based on what the comic book concept of the character looked like as that is what people expected to see? If superman was blonde, or short, or red haired, or thin and wiry it just wouldn't seem right to people?

also - on the sequel/non sequel thing. What I mean is - sometimes a series is more episodic= that the movies can stand alone without a person having to see the prior efforts to fully understand and enjoy. Sometimes there is a new paramour or villain in the subsequent films and the supporting characters in the prior films don't get heavy mention - or at least there is just a short recap. I don't think people would enjoy Return of the Jedi as much unless they knew the backstory of what happened up until that point, and the Matrix sequels...really just forget it if you haven't seen the first one.


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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. carolbee (6683)   ranked 1,773 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

Yes, I find it to be a very big distraction and turn off. So much so that I watched one Batman and that was the end of my watching any further Batman movies.


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

I only have watched the first Batman movie myself, carolbee. I don't know why I wasn't drawn to the others, but I do feel it had to do with changing the leads.

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11541)   ranked 11 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

Yes, it does distract from the continuity of a movie if it's a series. For instance I can't imagine anyone else playing Spiderman than Tobey Maguire. Some actors have a character pegged so well that you just associate that actor with the character in the movies.

I still haven't gotten used to for instance the change in Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies. I know they had to change the actors, since Richard Harris had died, and he was replaced, but to me he had that character down to tee. Maybe Peter Jackson had the right idea of filming all the Lord of the Rings movies back to back at the same time, just in "case" one of the older actors like Christopher Lee had died? (though he didn't thank goodness) Maggie Smith is getting on in years, and couldn't imagine anyone else playing Professor McGonagall in the HP movies


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

You're absolutely right, pyewacket. Some actors do "own" the character they are portraying, and it is unbelievable when they are replaced by another actor. I have been known to discontinue watching certain TV shows when they replace a certain character.


myLot reputation of 95/100. akuseru (1800)   ranked 5,921 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

I really agree with you, pyewacket. I haven't been able to watch any of the Harry Potter movies since Richard Harris' death. He was perfect for the role, and while the person they cast to replace him isn't a bad actor, he just doesn't seem like Dumbledore to me. Plus there's the problem with the younger actors outgrowing the roles they're playing...

Peter Jackson definitely had the right idea with the Lord of the Rings, although it was aggravating to have to wait a year between them.  :)

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. rx4life (1049)   ranked 582 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

Sometimes it an annoyance to me...but I understand the need for new actors...I was just going to say that I was on the set in Australia while my son was shooting DVD extras on the film you are talking about..Superman Returns...it was really awesome to watch how it all comes about...I got my photo taken in the Daily Planet..and Brandon Routh ( Superman) hugged me with his full cape and costume on...he is a really intelligent, kind individual...we spent quite a bit of time with him...but the whole experience was incredible!!! It's amazing how they create and destroy things on a movie set...the entire Daily Planet building that looked (even up close) like granite and marble was really styrofoam...we got to watch them making all kinds of buildings and things...what a great time...


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

Lucky you, rx4life! I can only imagine how exciting that adventure must have been for you. It is understandable when a leading actor dies that they have to be replaced, but that is all I agree with.

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. Shaun72 (11879)   ranked 28 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

Same here it is really sad that he died though. I miss him myself. He played Superman very well.


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

I love Superman so much, Shaun! I started out reading the Superman comics when I was just a kid, and I've been hooked all of my life. I'll watch anything that has to do with Superman because he is my favorite superhero. I'm also a huge fan of the TV show, Smallville.

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7. kaiwang (12)   2 years ago

one man have his own idears. i think it is good .

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. Aurone (2545)   ranked 112 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

I prefer to see the same actor throughout a movie series. To me its better than way. Sometimes I won't watch a sequel if the lead actor is changed.


myLot reputation of 92/100. worldwise1 (6079)   ranked 1 out of 11,289 in watching movies  2 years ago

Those feelings are mine exactly, Aurone. I feel that when the producers take on such a project, they have prior knowledge that this is going to be a series, so, barring death, they should make every effort to "lock in" the lead character for the duration of the series.

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9. myLot reputation of 85/100. oneandonemakesix (24038)   ranked 87 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

you are so right, I hate watching movies that change the stars and lead roles like this, and they do it for a variety of reasons sometimes the main being money.

A lot of times when they do that, the attitude of the character changes, and sometimes the whole plot.

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10. myLot reputation of 97/100. ctrymuziklvr (4677)   ranked 17 out of 11,289 in watching movies   2 years ago

For me it does take away some from the movie. Especially the old superman movies.

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