The Final Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)Was Sent To Whole Mankind Unlike Other Prophets!

Dear Atif,
Thanks for responding and giving your nice views about our beloved Prophet(pbuh).No doubt he was the greatest leader on the God's earth.Even other Prophets desired to be his followers instead of becoming Prophets.Thanks again.Please keep writing like this.

It is also clear that Jews denied jesus(pbuh),Charistians denied Muhammad(pbuh),but Muslims believe in all Prophets.We love and respect all prophets of God from the core of our hearts unlike you people.We cannot finish your hatred for the final Prophet(pbuh).Probably Jesus(pbuh)can do it on his arrival.Let's wait for him!!

Try to understand, I do not hate Muhammad, clearly he was a great leader, uniting the warring tribes and creating a nation from those tribes, just not a prophet.

all the best urban

urban,
Thanks for your reply.You donot accept the final prophet Muhammad(pbuh)as a prophet.There should be some reasons for this.Did Jesus(pbuh)or any other scriptures ever tell you that no Prophet will come after them Or you are just effected by the anti-Islam propaganda by the world media?We are accepting that about 124000 Prophets were sent to this earth including Prophets Jacob and jesus(pbuh)why are you not accepting one??This thing i donot understand.Mere hatred and prejudice should not cause this big denial.

Yes, Jesus warns that there will be many false prophets after his time. And also tells how we may recognize them. Try to understand this is not hatred or prejudice or influence of the media, in fact before I joined this site, I had presumed that Islam was another path to the same end but what I have learned here, from Muslims, has convinced me otherwise. Muhammad isn't a prophet for the simple reason that he doesn't posses the properties of a prophet; he is not predicted in scripture, performs no miracles and engages in a lot of dubious behavior, copies from existing scripture, etc

all the best urban

I hope people will stop dreaming about miracle stuff. David Copperfield can do much magic and miracle stuff, even that things Jesus might be able to do, he can, his ability seems much greater than Jesus' miracles. But he's not god nor a prophet. Such so-like magical things can be miracle, but never be the greatest miracles like prophet Muhammad had. His miracles weren't like magical things to show, to display to people (like magician). Only faithful people who love him (Muhammand) can feel his miracle. If people continue thinking about the magical stuff as the proof of a prophet, than David Copperfield can claim he is the next prophet, or younger son of God. We have many magicians nowadays indeed.

And about copying... His (Muhammad) was illiterate. And he never be able to write and read. And his family and society neither Jewish nor Christian, but paganism people. And his society during that age didn't use paper. I don't know where's such idea saying that he did copy something from Jewish and Christian...And I don't see that Islam is the same as Christian. Muslim believe in Allah as the only God while Christian believe God in trinity concept, thats a big different!

And YES, he (Muhammad) was predicted in Injil, not in The Bible! Allah told Isa (Alaihissalam) about him, but Allah never told it to Jesus Christ.

all the best another

Can David Copperfield heal the sick - no.
Can he raise the dead - no.
Can he calm the sea - no.
Can he rise from the dead - no.

Can he do the things Jesus did - no.

Was Muhammad illiterate -

1.In his book "Sirat Rasul Allah," the 8th century historian Ibn Ishaq recorded a written communication between Prophet Muhammad and one of his contemporaries.

2. He would have needed to have a basic literacy to conduct his job.

3. The tradition that Muhammad was illiterate comes from a misunderstanding. In his time the word 'ummi' meant 'Gentile' or one without a written scripture.

4. Muhammad was certainly familiar with Jewish and Christian scripture.

5. Homer was blind and could not write yet produced the Odyssey.

6. The Quran contains words not known in the Arabic of the time, linguist agree this is a sure sign of copying from previous scripture.

all the best urban

Not just Jesus that was uninformed about Muhammad but nowhere in Jewish scripture is he predicted.

all the best urban

Can David Copperfield heal the sick?, can he raise the dead?, can he calm the sea?, can he rise from the dead? -Who knows? He even can pass the wall, make a huge building disappear, he can instantly travel from US to China, making birds appear out from nowhere...so much his abilities...(I'm not a fan of him though)

1.) Recorded written communication? Did he (Muhammad) wrote it? He was never alone after being prophet, besides his companion(s) always be with him, read, and write for him.
2.) He would have basic literary, but he didn't.
3.) Misunderstanding? no, everything was perfect, further interpretation of the word "ummi" was made later, not at the time he and the people around him lived.
4.) He was certainly familiar with Jewish and Christian scripture? what is it? of all... because some Ahlulkitab(s) believe in the prophecy about Muhammad, but some denied it because of their egoism that Muhammad wasn't from Jews. They rather altered the prophecy to not matching him.
5.) Homer was blind and could not write yet produced the Odyssey- sounds familiar...oh yeah, Arab Jahiliyah (pagan) who claimed it. I believe in Muhammad, not the pagans.
6.) Quran was the words of God, Allah who knows everything that human don't! He had the words that Arab people during the time hadn't. The words never came from Muhammad, he was just a messenger of Allah, conveying Allah's words. And Allah knows what actually contained in His Taurah, Injil, and Zabur. Allah alone knows what had already happened, and what will happen in the future.

all the best another

Jewish will never accept a prophet not from their race. They altered their Torah to fit their needs. If prophet Musa succeeded with his teachings, then there's no need for further prophets. If Torah was perfect, there's no need for Bible. The previous prophets that came with many miracles ended up with little success and more failure. Only Muhammad was a successor and different from those prophets and messengers because he (Muhammad) was the leader of all prophets and messengers.

If you seriously believe David Copperfield can do these things then you are deluded or naive. Learn the difference between appearing to do something, in a cleverly staged set and actually doing something without props or clever camera angles.

Answering your points;

1. He was alone at the time he claimed to have received communication. In any case Ibn Ishaq's record was written before the Hadiths.

2.That's just an assertion, you present no argument or evidence to support.

3. No, it is the interpretation that the word means illiterate that was developed later.

4. I have no idea what you mean, please rephrase or get someone to assist you with English

5. The point is there is nothing unusual in the oral tradition of composing lengthy texts.

6. Why would Allah not use Arabic words, not a very convincing defense you advance there.

Where is your evidence that Jews altered the Torah? That's just something you have made up for your own convenience. Don't just make such bald claims unless you can provide evidence to that effect.

The Quran on the other hand has been altered and edited from several competing version and some of it lost, when, as recorded in a Hadith, some of those that had memorised it were killed in a battle.

All the best urban

Getting back to the point, there is nothing miraculous about the Quran, Muhammad isn't a prophet because he doesn't fit the criteria of prophet.

1. Performed no miracles
2. Not prophesised in previous scripture
3. Didn't lead a particularly good life

all the best urban

I think you didn't get that I'm not a religion scholar, I'm not a good at English too. If you want to argue something with evidents, facts, statistics, I can't do that, sorry. I prefer to think about theological matters with my own mind and brain...I don't remember all the exact sentences from the theology thesis and journals I studied. I don't remember all words in Quran also...(what a shame right?). I think there's no need for me to get all the stuffs, and read it again just to convince you... I prefer not to "google" and find any facts that convince you. Information from the internet can be bias and not accurate. I hope to hear something from your own mind and brain, not from Ibnu Ishaq, John of New Testement..etc..

I hope I can clean what messing around in my mind, I hope you can help me to do that... Could I ask you something about Jesus Christ? If you allow me I'll ask you in another drawmoney's discussion about Jesus. thanks

Donner, Fred; Guillaume, A; Robinson, Chase; Wansbrough, John; etc. Why don't people study Islam and Muhammmad from Islamic scholars? Why study Islam from something published by Cambridge University Press, The Darwin Press alone not from Al-Azhar University, MIIU etc????

Urban,
Mind you if our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not a true Prophet,as you blame,then we cannot believe in any other prophet.We only believe in 124000 Prophets of one God Almighty because our Holy Prophet(pbuh) had asked us to believe in them.We only love and respect Prophets Jacob, Moses and Jesus (all pbuh)because our Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)had asked us to do so.But you people cannot respect our Prophet(pbuh)as we respect all Prophets including yours.See the difference your self.You must be knowing that the Danish Press has again published the same pics to make fun of our beloved Prophet but you will never see any Muslim doing the same things against Jesus and Moses in retaliation........
Then you have written about the miracles of Prophet David and jesus(pbuh).Probably you donot know that no Prophet can ever show any miracle at his own.It is the one God Almighty Who creates miracles to assist His Prophets.Please read my topic on the Miracles of jesus and the Holy Quran once again to know this fact.Almost all the Prophets were given some miracles.Our Holy Prophet(pbuh)had divided moon into two pieces.Then one bowl of water was made sufficient for all the Muslim soldiers and their animals in a journey in hot summer.An old and sick goat started giving milk when our Holy Prophet(pbuh)started milking it.Even companions and followers of our Prophet(pbuh)had shown miracles.I am a sinful man but God Almighty was kind to give rain in a desert after two years of drought with the help of a single cloud when I led a prayer for rain.This was due to the divine mercey of one Allah Almighty. There are many such miracles but you people donot read the Holy Quran and the Hadith due to mere hatred and prejudice.

You do not respect Jesus, your fictional story about a substitute Jesus dying in his place makes a mockery of him and renders him a deceiver and bogus. It is a far greater offense than some cartoon or anything that has been said about Muhammad.

all the best urban

Yo, urbanekay, if you have fully faith in Christian, you must not believe in what Muslims says about Jesus, you can consider it as fiction, kay? I don't wana twist your faith either...I also would like to apologize about it if you care. I just want to make it clear, do you believe that Isa and Jesus was the same person? I remember within another post I asked if Jesus and Isa wasn't the same person, so who was the real Jesus in the perspective of Islam? I myself cannot accept Isa (AS) as a looser prophet who ended up murdered by unfaithful Jews. I believe that Isa was saved by Allah, and will come again on this earth in order to finish his job as messenger of Allah. I believe all prophets died in peaceful, not shameful way because Allah never let any of His prophets dead by maltreatment of disbelievers. We all know the same story of Abraham, for example. So you as a Christian who believe in Jesus, why not you accept that Jesus and Isa was the same person, with exception of you believe that he as the Son of God, and Muslim believe his as the messenger of Allah. So for me Isa (Alahissalam) can be Jesus (phuh), but never be Jesus the Christ.

all the best another

The problem is those Muslims that continue to blaspheme and cause such great insult by insisting that Isa and Yeshua are one and the same. There is sufficient historical evidence for the existence of Yeshua none, as far as I am aware, for Isa.

all the best urban

I think those Muslims influenced by the usage of word Jesus in their Quran interpretation. That's why I was not fully agree when drawmoney used the name Jesus rather than Isa. Jesus can be related with Christ, which is contradict with Islamic teachings. The real Quran interpretation doesn't interpret the name of Isa to Jesus. Isa was saved by Allah means that his body and his soul were saved, and placed in heaven. So there's no need for the evidence of his existence other than what stated in Quran because he is still alive in heaven. I know there's historical evidence about Jesus existent, that's why I said that he was real. You might say that I was brain washed, diluted and whatever, but no one ever force or influence me to believe in Quran. I never said that Jesus was a liar, but I said that the Bible itself was modified by disbelievers. They (disbelievers) can managed to kill him, so they can managed to modify the Bible. There were very few of his fellows and followers, that's why they were unable to help him from the conspiracy. You could think what happen to the followers after their leader died or lost. In contrast, there were so many conspiracy against Muhammad during he lived, but he never lost in hands of disbelievers, but the situation happened after he died, the chaos situation made by the hypocrites, and this had something to do with Ibn Ishaq. From the conspiracy breed Syiah, Wahabiah, and other ideology other than Ahlil Sunnah Wal Jamaa'h. Sorry for my bad English grammar, I'm from Malaysia.

all the best another

this is one hadith for both of you, from sahih al bukhari database:

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 275:
Narrated Anas:

When the news of the arrival of the Prophet at Medina reached 'Abdullah bin Salam, he went to him to ask him about certain things, He said, "I am going to ask you about three things which only a Prophet can answer: What is the first sign of The Hour? What is the first food which the people of Paradise will eat? Why does a child attract the similarity to his father or to his mother?" The Prophet replied, "Gabriel has just now informed me of that." Ibn Salam said, "He (i.e. Gabriel) is the enemy of the Jews amongst the angels. The Prophet said, "As for the first sign of The Hour, it will be a fire that will collect the people from the East to the West. As for the first meal which the people of Paradise will eat, it will be the caudate (extra) lobe of the fish-liver. As for the child, if the man's discharge proceeds the woman's discharge, the child attracts the similarity to the man, and if the woman's discharge proceeds the man's, then the child attracts the similarity to the woman."

On this, 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that None has the right to be worshipped except Allah, and that you are the Apostle of Allah." and added, "O Allah's Apostle! Jews invent such lies as make one astonished, so please ask them about me before they know about my conversion to I slam . " The Jews came, and the Prophet said, "What kind of man is 'Abdullah bin Salam among you?" They replied, "The best of us and the son of the best of us and the most superior among us, and the son of the most superior among us. "The Prophet said, "What would you think if 'Abdullah bin Salam should embrace Islam?" They said, "May Allah protect him from that." The Prophet repeated his question and they gave the same answer. Then 'Abdullah came out to them and said, "I testify that None has the right to be worshipped except Allah and that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah!" On this, the Jews said, "He is the most wicked among us and the son of the most wicked among us." So they degraded him. On this, he (i.e. 'Abdullah bin Salam) said, "It is this that I was afraid of, O Allah's Apostle.

Salam, thank you for this post, it is clear indication that Muhammad is not a prophet but a fraud. Since it says,

"As for the child, if the man's discharge proceeds the woman's discharge, the child attracts the similarity to the man, and if the woman's discharge proceeds the man's, then the child attracts the similarity to the woman."

Yet as we now know the similarity of a child to its mother of father is not influenced at all by the order of discharge this is a totally false statement, therefore it cannot be the word of God, therefore either Muhammad is not telling the truth when he says it was revealed to him by the Angel Gabriel or what he takes to be Gabriel is a deceiver. So either Muhammad is a fraud and an impostor or he is deceived.

all the best urban

Salam, what is your point? posting a Hadith without further explaination? There's people with pride and prejudice...

The hadith tells us story about Abdullah bin Salam, who asked several questions to Muhammad in order to validate him as a prophet. This means that Abdullah bin Salam himself must already knew the answers of his questions so he can validate the prophet. What Gabriel told Muhammad was the same answers within Abdullah bin Salam's mind. So in this case, the individuals who knew the answers were Abdullah bin Salam and Muhammad excluding Gabriel.

The event was occurred in paganism arab era which is no scientists and scientific knowledges. There's no need for him (Muhammad) to tell something about chromosome X and Y, genetics or other scientific terms which are not applicable during that era. The main point here is the answers matched and validated by Abdullah bin Salam himself who knew nothing about science. (as long as the answers were acceptable by this man's level of knowledge, so no problem with it).

The similarity of a child to his mother or father not necessarily means the biological similarity. It can be characteristics, interests, behavior, etc.,or can be biologically similarity. And its difficult to clinically proved that the fact (like what you uncle urban claimed), and you decided by yourself that it was wrong. But God knows more than human knowledge. He knows everything.

And actually I'm confused whether you are Christian (what Christian?), Hebrew, or Atheist.

You said before that I'm deluded by David Copperfield's magics. And you can believe what you read from book but you do not believe what you see with your eyes. My point is, I believe what I read in The Holy Quran because I have faith in what written in Quran.

Back to the point, I believe that nowadays there's more children that have similarity to his father rather than his mother. (yeah, I knew the reason why). That's why the proverb "like father like son" is quite popular and it's rarely to hear people say "like mother like son". The proverb tells us that the son inherits his father's characteristics. And a son always be the successor of his father. If you believe that Jesus is a son of God, (and we know how his ending), so what can we expect from his father? "like father like son". I never meant to be harmful unless you started it and continue your abuses to our prophet without any apologies. You should have the answer in your mind but you will continue your ignorant to face the truth. As for myself, I would like to not bother other's belief, or what theirs ends, but I can see many Muslim friends who sincerely wana save you from the astray but what you said to them? We Muslims condemn the disbelievers but you condemn the prophets. You said Jesus is God and Muhammad is liar. But we Muslims love all prophets and never condemn any of them. The modus operandi of satan is clear, to hide the truth and defend the astray, and harm the messenger of Allah so the God's messages will never reach the deluded(s). The satan made you worship human, not God the Creator. You can wait the messiah but what happen if you died before his coming? You have your own mind and decide yourself!

Again, I would like to apologize if I'm bad. I can say that we have a good discussion and it doesn't mean we are enemy. Let us enjoy Mylot peacefully and continue our good opinion to share with other Mylotters. You are indeed good, uncle urban. (hehe, I just noticed that I was dealing with uncles here).

all the best another

Of course it does not mean we are enemies, to attribute attack to discussion is an inappropriate emotional response, all men are brothers and debate is not war.

I must however take issue with what you say. As the great Muslim scholar, Ibn Rushd observed, the Quran contains instructions for Muslims to look around and use their intellect, and the evidence of our eyes must lead to greater understanding. Not so to do leads inevitable to the kind of blind faith that produces oppression and outcry and war everlasting.

It is clear by any neutral interpretation, that is to say, any interpretation that is not doing violence to the text, that similarity to one or other parent means in appearance. Our endeavors at looking around at the world has shown beyond all reasonable doubt that appearance is inherited and depends not on who discharges first, in fact, and endeavors at looking around at the world assure us that who discharges first has no effect on the nature, character or attributes of the child.

You assertion that Abdullah bin Salam already knew the answers does not follow and is just wild speculation. Neither is it correct to portray this as a wholly pagan era in which there was no knowledge of science. Whilst it is true that the majority of Arabs were pagan, many were Christian. In fact the Arab Christian population was increasing rapidly and split in a Christological dispute between Monophysites and Orthodox Christians. Many Christians preached monotheism to the Arabs at the time of Muhammad as did many other would be prophets.

Many Arab warriors were employed both by the Christian Byzantine empire, the centre of scientific understanding at the time being the inheritors of the Greek and Roman legacies.

It is also worth noting that at this time there were some Arab converts made by Jews.

Whilst I am sorry if you find my words upsetting but I do not consider Muhammad a prophet. Before engaging in this forum, I held the unexamined belief that Islam was a different teaching, a different path, if you like, to the same end as Christianity. Indeed one prominent Islamic scholar has written that a strict interpretation of the Quran leads to something very akin to Christianity.

However, from what I have learned here by engaging with Muslims I am inclined to see Islam more as a cult of oppression and ignorance, though I am open to this being a result of corruption of Islamic teaching and not really representative of Islam as a whole. And I note that Muslims opinion outside Pakistan and the Middle east appears more rational and less indoctrinated.

Not sure why you refer to me as 'uncle' but no matter.

all the best urban

Wah, thank u to see it in good perspective. And it's ok to me, I cannot push you (and I never have any intention to push you in the first place). I'm not a stupid guy and you are a smart uncle. Both us have different piece of mind. But to be fair, I would like you to assist me about these bible verses;

"If you love me, Keep my commandments. And I will pray to the Father and He shall give you another comforter that he may abide with you forever."
- (Bible, John 14-15/16)

"But when the comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me, and he also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning."
-(Bible, John 15-26/27)

"I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now. How be it when he, the spirit of Truth will come, he will guide you into all truth, for he shall speak not of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that he shall speak, and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine, and he shall show it unto you."
-(Bible, John 16-12/14)

***I just want to make sure these verse are the correct verses in the Bible you use, and could you tell me who is the "comforter" in your point of view? I will no argue from now on, just to ask u kay?

And again, I hope you forgive me if I was being rude before, I know I'm not the right person so argue about this. If you reply this comment, I may reply my last comment then.

Yes, that looks like the KJV. So, who is the comforter? Traditionally this is held to be the Holy Spirit and Muslims have suggested that this refers to Muhammad. Which is the better candidate?

In John 14:16 Jesus is addressing the disciples directly and says the comforter will be with them forever. Clearly here comforter cannot refer to Muhammad since he was not around at the time of the disciples nor for other 500 years later.

Note also the verse you omit, John 14:17
17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
Again, clearly not Muhammad since Muhammad is not in the disciples and also indicates that the comforter is akin to a spirit that dwells in someone.

John 15:26 states the comforter is a spirit of truth, note not a man that speaks the truth but a spirit.
So far we have seen the comforter is a spirit and is around at the time of the disciples of Jesus, both indications that the comforter cannot be Muhammad.

Let’s also look at the original word ‘Paracletos’ meaning literally ‘called to one’s side’ and less literally as an advocate, particularly in Jewish circles as an advocate before God; that is one that intercedes with God on behalf of the person.

Jesus is sometimes referred to in scripture as an advocate for us before God and records that the Comforter will be continuing his work.

It is therefore reasonable and just to conclude that the Comforter is the Holy Spirit and that holding it to be Muhammad does great violence to the text.

All the best uncle urban

So this is the result of the Council of Nicea, 325 CE???

Ok, I said before I'm not going to argue right? (so lazy lol).
Ok, no argument here...

But I choose to maintain with my believe; (scroll up).

"I bear witness that there's no God except Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."

I'll quit here, but may post another related comments on another related discussions., later, bye uncle!

Hmmmm, why do you insult me by suggesting this is something other than it is?

In fact, the early Christian fathers interpreted it thus and aside from grossly heretical beliefs there is no strain conflicting interpretation with in Christianity of which I am aware. Furthermore, this is not a dogmatic point of view but one based on reason. I had assumed you were a reasonable chap, it seems I am mistaken.

So, if you are not feeling too lazy to discuss matters of such import, what was your interpretation of 'the Comforter?'

all the best uncle urban

The correct term by the way is 325 AD not CE. AD is the convention and it is not for academics to dictate language usage.

all the best uncle urban

uncle urban, mind you to scroll up (your mouse wheel) and read again my comments? When I insult you "by suggesting this is something other than it is?" And when I said this is important? I had assumed you're a smart uncle but you made yourself like a dude lol! How can you be so prejudice to me?

I said last comment here but I've considered to reply now since I used word MAY last time...but forget it since you are elder, no matter

and sorry because I'm not going to answer your question now, but mind you to analysis the verse, John 14-15/16 before we go any further? Remember you said that the comforter= Holy Spirit. And I would like to quote; Holy "Spirit".

"....and He shall give you another comforter..."
"....he may abide with you forever."

note the words- ANOTHER, COMFORTER, ABIDE, FOREVER.
1.ANOTHER; So, who was the first Holy "Spirit", and who's the next, or another Holy "Spirit"?
2.COMFORTER; Could you convince me why the word ‘Paracletos’ (called to one’s side) is rather suitable or match with the verse(s) and not 'periklutos' (Praised One)?
3.ABIDE; how the Holy "Spirit" does abide, with you?
4.FOREVER; why forever?

Please consider that I know nothing about it.

And I will reply 2 or 3 more responds/comments before I quit. (so lazy lol).

all the best another (lol)

I find your last post difficult to decipher so I will just answer what I think you are saying.

"So this is the result of the Council of Nicea, 325 CE??? "

This is where you suggest it is something other than it is, this is not a result of the council of Nicea but based on scripture and reason.

Nothing I say has shown any prejudice to you, if you think that either you have misunderstood what I write or you are just disposed to view things incorrectly.

The first comforter or advocate (One that intercedes with God on the persons behalf) is Jesus, and Jesus says he will pray to God to send the disciples another comforter or advocate (One that intercedes with God on the persons behalf) and that is the Holy Spirit. I am finding it hard to understand why you see a problem here it is quite clear. Perhaps it is understanding it in English?

Those that received the Holy spirit it found it dwelt with them guiding their thoughts and actions, enabling them to speak with tongues and other things.

all the best urban

whatever (lazy to argue), but I'll illustrate my question before so its easier for u to understand my Manglish.

so Jesus was the 1st holy spirit-type god? and since he used the word "another", not 2nd, 3rd or any simple number that we can count, that means there's more than 2,3,100,2000...(and so on) number of holy spirit-type-god? And it seems like he wasn't the first holy spirit-type-god. And if u say that Jesus wasn't one of holy spirit-type-god, then the Holy Spirit in trinity was the 1st...(or maybe not) holy spirit-type god? And actually, how many Holy Spirit(s) you have?

and why in GREEK..(assume for learning purposes)
"....and He shall give you another one sided..."
"....when the one sided is come................"
(see, no bracket here)
or means
"....and he shall give you another Holy Spirit.."
"....when the Holy Spirit is come..............."

but not..
"....and He shall give you another praised one..."
"....when the praised one is come................"
see, no bracket here, so what do u think, in your opinion?

sowee if i was misunderstood u

Are you are twisting my words Jesus is the first advocate and the Holy Spirit is another one, it does not logically follow to conclude from that, that there will be a series of such.

In Greek because the early scriptures were written in Greek, Greek being the Linga-Franca of the day as English is now.

No praised one is not a possible translation, in Greek praised one is Paracleth, a similar word but not a word that occurs in that context in any of the relevant scriptures. So, no praised one is not a valid translation. Whoever told you that is committing Tahrif (Corruption)

Don't try and make some point out of my use of brackets they are there only to add clarity and not necessary, just an aid.

all the best urban

so is that all the best from urban? u see me argue not, but me accept ur answer not, since u canot convince me. So i'll quit here and thank u for ya respond.

So, I can understand you choosing not to accept my answers but which part is not clear or reasonable to you?

all the best urban

Thanks for responding and sharing your views.yes,no doubt islam believes in the universal brotherhood,which is only based on divine teachings and monotheism.Islam is a universal religion and its teachings are good for all the times.Probably you have not read about it.It has its own moral,political,ethical,economic,legal and cultural systems.We also believe that Jesus(pbuh)has to come and create first IDEAL WORLD STATE basing on this universal religion i.e Islam.Please read the holy Quran at least once in your life...........

universal brotherhood started by him, Muhammad, while other prophets before him were all Jewish. (how to say this?). And he (Muhammad) never said that all kafir, infidel unacceptable, even he taught that Muslim can marry Ahlulkitab (It's Arabic term, dunno what to say in English, but means The believers of Torah and Injil).

remark: In Islam, not all of the prophets were jews, but some of them.

Wa Alaikum Asalam,
Thanks for responding and sharing your nice views,for which I fully agree with you.The basic Islam is just the Holy Quran and Sunnah/Hadith.They are the only touchstones of this true Faith.In fact there were deep foreign conspiracies against Islam in the time of Sahaba's rule after the death of our Holy Prophet(pbuh).We should just follow the Holy Quran and the Sunnah and not the sectorial books and literature.Thanks again for your good sentiments.Allah Hafiz o Nasir........

Alhamdulillah,

"Hatith Maudu' and Hahith Daif??" - Sorry, I meant Hadith, just to correct my spelling.

Salam;)