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myLot reputation of 92/100. Celanith (1854)   ranked 484 out of 7,200 in family2 years ago

The church we have been attending have a womens group called Women of Grace. They generally give one baby shower per mother that comes new to our church if she is having a baby.

Usually it is a close friend or family member to host but the group does all the planning and things and invites to outside family and friends not in church. 5 years ago my daughter got what was a joke of a shower. None of her family or friends were told or invited. Not even me her own mother and my dil's or my daughter's MIL and SIL. My oldest son and wife had just started coming to this church. They just announced at church services one day we are having a surprise shower for Mar downstairs after fellowship. My DIL was mad I didn't tell her until I told I didn't know about it either. My daughter is have a boy this time she has 4 girls

My daughter had made late lunch plans with her MIL and her husband and family and so she was not expecting this and was in a hurry. The shower consisted of 5 gifts 3 had no names. They wanted to have hurry open the gifts, eat a cup cake and drink some juice so everyone could go home. Since then they have had 5 other showers for women whee it was done on another day, all friends and family out of the church notified and came. The shower my daughter had didn't have decorations or anything. My DIl and son were upset at the rudeness and never came back.

Now her friend started coming and is having a little boy, she is new to our church. My daughter has 4 girls now and is expecting a boy. It is okay if we have another shower as long as the W.O.G. are not sponsering it but they want to give all the new women a shower first. Why so they can make themselves and the church look at how nice they are. No one was doing anything for this new girl and somone asked me to help them give my daughter a shower not put on by the church womens group though some would come who were closer friends. My daughter checked around and asked if anyone was planning a shower for her friend too. No not even the W.O.G. So she said how about mom we invite. J to my shower and use mine to have a surprise one for her. Double shower. What fun right?

The pastors wife (he is a new pastor of about a year was like cool can I help sure) Well we were just waiting to get a date okayed. And My daughter and I have both been gone 3 weeks due to flu real bad. We then get told you can't have the shower for J because we the W.O.G. have to have it show off how good we are to her friends and relatives. We have been planning it for 2.5 weeks. Hello excuse me. This after we told some people. Then the pastors wife and another lady told them well that we were planning it first.

So they told me You can't have it for J just for Mar. Cause we have to give it. The two ladies who were trying to help said well just work with them. It should be nice. But they said no we already gave Mar a shower and don't want J to have one with her. Then they said okay this ONE time we will do it when the pastors wife who was helping us said to make an exception since none of them know J very well yet. They told K to contact me but K went to J's sister and told her the W.O.G. was doing the shower and I was out of it and so was my daughter and then they went to the pastor and said his wife didn't know the policy and how My daughter and I stole the shower from them and broke W.O.G. policy.

No matter we are not part of the W.O.G. and haven't been for 3 years due too a bunch of stupid rules and regulations that are rude and inhosptiable. ( another story ) So the pastor calls me. I still am sick with sore throat and laryngitis and he starts telling me I as out of line and blah blah blah. I told him I did check and was not doing anything wrong not part of the W.O.G. etc. he said well they have to give the shower to show her family and friends how great the church is and we need you to back out and just have the shower for your daughter. I told him how rude that was and selfish and I was not going to do it.

As people already were being invited and how they upset J's sister and mom who are friends of ours and they don't like the way they are treating us and so don't want to come to our church now. So we all left this is only one thing of many how bad our church has become. None of are going back and S the sister said why not just have the shower at a park our families like to go to since it is going to be in May and probably nice out. The selfish Women of Grace only wanted to do it show off and it ruined the surprise. J knows about it now.

These friends were like what a friendly church and had been coming 3 months until the rotteness showed up once again. Now they won't go back and this was the last straw for us. 19 times this church has caused hurt and offense. They told a man who was baptized and made mistakes he could not come to church any more when they found out he had AIDS. So we are making a living room group of people.

 
 
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p1kef1sh (5735) response was accepted on 3/31/2008.
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tags:  baby shower, church, policy, women, hurt
 
1. myLot reputation of 92/100. Transdisc (18489)   ranked 340 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

It sounds like the 'Women of Grace' need a new name. What asshats.

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (12431)   ranked 856 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

Wow. I am glad I am not part of this church. Those women are mean! So much for loving each other.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Celanith (1854)   ranked 484 out of 7,200 in family  2 years ago

That is why we left after a series of similar insults by these rude women and the church.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. vera5d (2204)   ranked 466 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

I decided last week I am never going to church again. Based on what everything you just wrote here, I wouldn't go to that church either. Loving God is about loving other people equally, having compassion, not judging others, helping others, making the world happier. Anything that causes frustration for you or your family is doing you or you beliefs any good.

I like the idea of a living room group of people. that sounds like a better way to celebrate life and god and your beliefs and faith without excluding people or hurting people.

As for the baby shower thing I have terrible ADD so i couldn't really follow the whole thing, but it seems like your daughter was really slighted. I would say oh well to this, it's not fair but it's not exactly right to demand something different either. Good luck to her and her soon to be little boy!

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. lilybug (15392)   ranked 35 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

That is just dumb about the whole baby shower thing. That is not a church I would be interested in attending at all.

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. p1kef1sh (5735)   ranked 29 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

How sad and pathetic. This simply reinforces my view that there is something unpleasant living in the heart of the Church. This has nothing to do with religion but all to do with the egos of the group of men and women that appear to have turned the Church into their personal club, reflecting all their prejudices and intolerances behind the banner of love. Hah! Stay away from them would be the only advice that I would give. Friends like that you don't need.


ilove2shop (40)   ranked 5,480 out of 7,200 in family  2 years ago

I agree completely with this comment. I have grown up in church my whole life, and been to many many churches as an adult. They are "all" the same, the people are always the same, the ministers and staff are always the same, the advice you get from them is never to help you out, it is always "just pray about it". Well,
as you say in the end.... Friends like that you don't need.


myLot reputation of 97/100. p1kef1sh (5735)   ranked 29 out of 7,200 in family  2 years ago

Thank you so much for the BR. I hope that you find a new group of people to settle with. You sound to me like someone that is an asset to their community. Shame these twerps don't have a little of your approach to life.

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. foxyfire33 (5796)   ranked 145 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

That sounds like a horrible church and I am so glad you are putting together your own group. This is why I don't attend church anymore, too many people like that.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (17896)   ranked 695 out of 7,200 in family   2 years ago

don't let them ruin for you your daughter or the lady,

yes she knows about the church one,

but does that mean you can't have a private one, for her? that is also church work, even if it is at your home, then you can tell the pastor you did because you were forced to, the church robbed you of the opportunity to host it there in god's house among so called god's people, but the church cannot rob you of the joy of giving as Jesus intended and you have it at your home?

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8. myLot reputation of 23/100. CherBear04 (315)   2 years ago

I think that that is absolutely horrible. When people in church act this way I want nothing to do with them. I am a Christ-follower, I read my Bible, but no where in the Bible does it say women of grace can rule the earth. First off - the title Women of GRACE needs to be changed because they have none. If I were you, I would have looked up Bible verses and in a loving way corrected their behavior and shown them that what they were doing was completely unbiblical.

I am so tired of the rottenness and selfishness of people who are in the church. People need to learn that loving people and loving God does not involve selfish behavior.

I could really go on forever, so I'll just stop here.

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