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myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre2 years ago

I am an Indian and the call centre industry is at the full boom here. I had applied for and got selected for a job here some two months ago in a reputed company for a well known U.S. based credit card process. Once I started taking calls, many U.S residents were either very sweet or plain indifferent once they realised that I am an Indian speaking. And they would know because I never could get myself to speak in a totally american accent.


But there were some customers who were down right rude and would straight off begin with really seething verbal attack. We were allowed to shift them back into the system hoping they would find a U.S agent.


But my point is, that I havent decided to bring that job to India nor has the company I worked for or the many other companies who are involved in this business. It is a purely business or economical decision.


We had a boss who was a texas resident who had come to India with his family to train a few of us and he said for american companies have outsourced it to purely keep their services economical or cheap for residents of their respective country.


So how far is it okay to blast that person who had no hand in the decision making and is purely speaking to you to help you out?

 
 
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1. Ajaxus (21)   ranked 6 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

Well my business professor who used to do a lot of travelling and used to own many internationally traded businesses gave us some advice awhile back if we get into international business ventures.

He explained that one of the ways to avoid problems is to learn about the culture and the people with whom you are dealing. For him he would have to know what he could and couldn't do when on a visit to China, India, Israel, or the UK. Wherever he went there were different business practices which he had to adjust himself for.

On the flip side, employees of agencies in one country that deal with customers in another need to be educated in how to properly deal with them. What to expect and how to react. I do know that many call center's in India and other countries bring in lingual experts to teach employees how to pronounce words in English with little or no accent. The idea being that if you can get rid of the accent, your customers will be able to relate to you better and the service you are offering them is better.

So have your boss work with you on finding ways to connect better with your customers and make them feel more comfortable.

Also remember that some irate customers may be ones that have called before and received little to no help. Or they may have been on hold for a long time (I've been on hold for 3+ hours before..it can get on your nerves) so they may be angry with you for reasons other than your country of origin.

And for the threatening customers, we even have to deal with them stateside. I sit behind bulletproof glass in a hospital of all places, so I can understand irate customers as well. For me remaining calm, explaining to them that I am simply doing my job and, if it comes down to it, calling a supervisor to speak with them also helps A LOT in dealing with their issues.


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

hmm actually my initial reaction used to be I am sorry let me transfer the call. well I am not sure it really helped.

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2. myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (12396)   ranked 2 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

Even is someone is Indian with no accent, you can still tell they are Indian just by how they place their sentences together.

People do not like to support companies that outsource their work because they know workers here lost their jobs to those people. So why should they be nice to you?

By the way, outsourcing DOES NOT save companies money in the long run. It actually costs them more.


Ajaxus (21)   ranked 6 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

I would disagree with a good portion of your post. I've met many Indians without accents that had I not been told of they were Indian I would have never known. And this goes for many that I see in front of me, not just hearing their voice over the phone.

Also from my experiences with foreign students in America, I have found when it comes to putting sentences together while speaking most of them make the same mistakes no matter their country of origin.

Some people may also agree with your statement about workers losing jobs here. However I see with globalization that this will not stop. In fact if we outsource jobs to other countries, then we must create jobs to manage these agencies in other countries. As I mentioned in my previous post there are variances in how businesses in different countries practice things. It takes a lot of work to pull together different business practices globally for one corporation and make all of these practices legal for the country where it is based. For example paychecks, taxes and the like are all calculated differently in different countries. Yet a US based company must find a way to maneuver these numbers and practices when they file their tax reports in the US so that it is all legal by US standards. This takes A LOT of work and so jobs open up here to manage it.

I also would like to hear more about your claim that outsourcing is more expensive in the long run. If this were true, companies would not do it. Why would Subaru be building a manufacturing plant in Indiana of all places? Subaru's are not widely driven in the US, yet they want to manufacture them here. It saves them on shipping costs tremendously.

I believe you are oversimplifying things and ignoring the broader picture of it all. You come up with good points but have nothing to back them and thus your arguments are weakened.


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

Well how does it not save the money you tell me. The set up cost of a call centre they dont have to do, all that furnishing and electricity bills and capital investments. All they do is pay someone else to do that. Now for a indian 3900 is a lot for you it is 10 dollars a week. Will you all be ready to work for that low. That is the point.


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

My point exactly Ajacus.... Thank you


myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (12396)   ranked 2 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

And they loose how many customers due to bad customer service reps? I know those can be anywhere, but I have never had a US based rep just strictly read from a script, not be able to full comprehend what I am saying due to language barriers or be a complete butt on the phone.

Companies loose in the long run because they have a high over turn of employees who need to constantly be retrained, specialized trainers, they need to build new building, buy new office furniture and the list goes on. Yeah they save on pay, but at what cots? They are giving consumers an inferior product.


Ajaxus (21)   ranked 6 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

Actually the product is not inferior. In fact US based call centers use scripts just as much as foreign centers. You may not notice it as much because pronunciations differ and we are able to read and pronounce things better but it is still a script.

Most large corporations and businesses use scripting now because its standardization makes for fewer mistakes. What you talk to on the phone is similar to what you get when you visit their customer support website. You are asked a question and given several answers to choose from. Your answer defines what the person or the website says next. They give you advice, if it works you say yes if it doesn't you say no. Their script gives them the next thing to advise you to do much like the website.

It's a more personal version of the website's support center, it is no different.

The turn over rates, please quote me a resource on that. Like the OP said, they get paid $10 a week and that is A LOT of money to them. If it pays that well, why would they leave the job? Many call center employees in other countries have college degrees. They are the best educated in their country, they take the job because it pays well for their level of living. This would lower turnover rates because the job is so simple and it pays SO WELL.

So please, link me to some resources to back up your claims as I see no logic in your posts.


myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (12396)   ranked 2 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

It has been my experience that all they CAN do is the script. At least someone who is English language based can understand what I am telling them completely. They can also come up with ideas that are not script based instead of repeating the same thing over and over and not coming to any solution and then hang up on your when you ask for a Supervisor.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/02/india_call_centers.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3495/is_12_49/ai_n8585643
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jul2006/gb20060728_690002.htm

I know many of these folks have high level degrees, that is why it is a shame that they can not find a better job or give the best customer support.


Ajaxus (21)   ranked 6 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

I'll look at those links now, but in response to your last comment this IS a better job over there.

Hate to tell you this, but gas doesn't cost $3.50 everywhere, electric bills aren't $100+ a month everywhere, houses don't cost $100,000 for a small one in every country.

Their $10 or $3900 a year as the OP noted is a LOT of money to them. This would be on par to us making tens of thousands a year straight out of college. They live just as comfortable if not more comfortable than most of our college graduates. Not all of our material possessions are necessary. Many of these calling centers pickup their employees and drive them to work in large carpools, saving them the cost of a car or fuel. It really is a nice job.


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

Dear sedel1027.... Good companies do not give scripts. Only in certain circumstances will we have to read a script and that has to be read by all reps -- Indian or american.


myLot reputation of 84/100. bournecaindelta (2032)   ranked 4 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

Sedel. I have some questions for you ..

1) why do companies esp from USA, employ people from other countries instead of taking in people from their own country?

2) Why do many of my American friends take my help with their essays and literary work, when they, according to your argument, are so good at English?

3) Why do you think that people who's regional Language is not English,cannot speak good English and converse properly with others?


myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (12396)   ranked 2 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

1) why do companies esp from USA, employ people from other countries instead of taking in people from their own country?

They do this because they think they can save money in the long run and they value a dollar more than their clients. Many companies - like Apple and Dell - have decided to no outsource because so many people complained. They value their customers.

2) Why do many of my American friends take my help with their essays and literary work, when they, according to your argument, are so good at English?

People ask you for help because they have weak writing skills. That has nothing to do with how good you speak a language.

3) Why do you think that people who's regional Language is not English,cannot speak good English and converse properly with others?

Here, even though it is English, we do not speak traditional English. It is an American version of the language.

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3. myLot reputation of 89/100. sherrylwatts (255)   ranked 39 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

I feel bad for you working in a call center - I think that is probably one of the most difficult jobs around. It might help if you think about it this way:

1. Almost no one calls the help center or customer support unless they have a problem - they are already frustrated before they even dial the phone.

2. Almost every customer service phone number has about 47,000 layers of voice mail that a customer has to wade through before they can actually speak to a live agent. I believe most companies do this as another cost saving method - if their customers can not reach a live agent, they do not have to pay that live agent to take the call. Many times people will just hang up in frustration. Especially if the voice mail system is one of those that has voice recognition - you know the "say one for blah, blah, blah - that never seem to understand what you say. I know I've found myself screaming at the phone I said one you stupid system - LOL!

3. I'm not sure how strong your accent is, but with any accent, customers might feel that they are not capable of explaining their problem to you (not that you can not understand, but they they can not make their point).

So what you have when you answer the phone is someone who is upset to begin with, has had to take time out of their very busy day to call, has been routed through god only knows how many layers of voice mail torture, and when they finally get to someone, they feel they will not be understood (believe me, I have been on the phone with support personal that barely speak english). They are not mad at you exactly, but you end up receiving the brunt of all of that frustration. Just keep telling yourself, its not personal, its not personal. Some things you might try is to just let the customer vent themselves out. Don't interrupt, just let them get it off their chest, then say "I can certainly understand your frustration - let's see what we can do about this."

Hope that helps & good luck to you.


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

Ya that I am sure that there a lot of reps who cant speak appropriate english which I experienced whenever I called the Fraud department to help a customer. They always turned out to be spanish. I would then have to go... me no spanish me cant speak spanish.


Actually I have from my childhood lived with a lot of britishers and europeans in our locality and also as quite a few cousins of mine are born and brought up in the U.S I had a nuetral accent and had no problem with other accents. But then I think there is a lot of generalization.


Any ways thanks, you reminded me of my old team leader and trainer. That was their punch line.


myLot reputation of 89/100. sherrylwatts (255)   ranked 39 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

It really is a shame, as a general rule here in America, we have a tendency to "look down" on people who speak with even the most mild of accents, all the while forgetting that 99% of the time, these are people who have taken the time to learn a second language - something the majority of us have not done!


Ajaxus (21)   ranked 6 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

And ofcourse we all forget the fact that America was built by immigrants. Our ancestors were all foreigners at one point in time (unless you are Native Americans).

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8978)   ranked 19 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

It's not fair that they blast you at all. Usually though it's not that they are angry at you but at the service they are calling about. Add to it, especially for some, the accents do not assist in it and can frustrate them more. I seriously doubt they mean to take it out on you but you are the person there. They shouldn't I agree.

I know myself usually when I'm calling a help line it's because I'm already having issues. I'm frustrated or, angry already so then if the person isn't able to help or and this has happened, I cannot understand them due to an accent it can make it far more aggravating. I try not to take it out on anyone but some people don't think about the fact that the person on the other end is person and they don't want to be yelled at.

I think you are smart when they get like that to try and give them to someone better suited to assist them.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. ellie333 (6792)   ranked 3 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

I personally have changed my bank so that I can speak to a person in my own branch rather than a call centre, but this is because I prefer someone who knows me when dealing with my finances. However, I do not mind people calling regarding other issues and even if it was something I was not interested in I would not be rude, but if caller persistent in trying to sell me something I would be firm. At one time I worked for a call centre myself here and I was told to**** off on many an occasion just for doing my job so I can understand how you feel. I would just let these people go over your head and concentrate purely on the nice sweet people to keep you happy in your job. Ellie:D

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6. myLot reputation of 71/100. tops76 (172)   ranked 12 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

Its very bad, specially when you know that the person with whome you are talking is only for helping you out and has no role in decision making.
But like any other job you will have to face this problem, don't get discouraged with these things, and keep giving your best.
Best of Luck.

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7. myLot reputation of 76/100. castratton (115)   ranked 11 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

In my opinion you should be as nice to them as they are to you. I've had some really nice call center experiences and then I've had some pretty bad ones. I usually only get nasty to the ones that are getting nasty to me. I try usually to be very nice because obviously if I'm calling I need help with something.

Every once in awhile I've gotten someone who must be having a bad day and just starts giving me major attitude. When that happens I give it right back to them.

Hopefully people will be nice to you!

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8. TShaheed (79)   ranked 40 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

I am not saying that prejudice doesn't exist but...

America is a "melting pot" of many races, religions, and peoples. I find it a little ghard to believe that people would call the call center seeking help and then not want the help from you because of your race or where you are from. Maybe the people who call you with a disgusting attitude are just frustrated. I don't think that it is personal...some people are just rude. I am sure that the people who are rude to you would be just as (or even ruder) to an American person...

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9. myLot reputation of 87/100. ciades (847)   ranked 15 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

My sister is a call center agent here in our country Philippines...At, first she was nervous especially that her first time in having a conversation with americans.

On her first week, she told me about her experienced and she don't like to go back because she received calls from customer who criticized her badly and some humiliated her. My sister speak english well and she also have a good english accent..

But as time goes by...she still there and usually received calls...for now, Its not new to her about stupidity of some customers. She already used to it. And she said, nice and polite customers make her day wonderful and put her in a good mood.

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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. kitchenwitchoftupper (1379)   ranked 14 out of 40 in call centre   2 years ago

A plus rating for this question!

This is a situation that I have had to deal with on many occasions. The U.S. based company that I sell plastic kitchen products for employs workers from India to work in their Customer Service Call Center.
One of the people that replied already has stated correctly that by the time I have to call Customer Service I already have a problem that is very serious. I have not only tried to handle and fix it myself, but I have also gone to my Group Forum and asked for help there, and then I have gone to my Manager to ask for her help. Customer Service is my last resort.
Thankfully, many years ago I worked as a telemarketer for awhile and understand how difficult the job is, so I am never rude to anyone on the phone. Not only do I understand the difficulty you face with a person that is frustrated with a situation, you then have to face the frustration of dealing with language barriers. I really feel extra sorry for the person that has to deal with me because on top of everything else, I am losing my hearing and have to ask her/him to repeat things even more often.
As far as your question, this goes beyond just manners; it is a matter of plain human decency. Just because American and other companies find it cheaper to send the work to other countries does not make it right for the workers to take it out on the other workers. We are at the bottom of the food chain and need to be respectful and kind to each other. If it takes a few more minutes to make ourselves clear to each other, so be it. Perhaps in the time we spend together on the phone, we can also make a new friend. Blessed Be~Donna


myLot reputation of 87/100. anuraa30 (768)   ranked 1 out of 40 in call centre  2 years ago

I agree that the language barrier is a problem but not all Indians are bad in their language. Some really good ones end up going to the industry.


But Yes there were lots of people from the U.S who when they came to know I was an Indian, they inquired about the timings here and the shifts I work in and they really worried for me travelling late at night from work to home. I like that. Someone, a stranger, sitting miles away an ocean apart worries that you reach home safely.


This has definately its ups and downs.

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