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myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics4 months ago

Ok, I know I am going to get a lot of people mad by starting this discussion but I have to know WHY? WHY???? Do you still back him up after all he's done and after all the facts and evidence you have before you!? I understand loyality but look what the man has done to our economy! I mean we borrowed money from CHINA! CHINA! The Canadian dollar is worth more then ours! Please explain to me like I am a child why??

I understand party loyalty but if it was revealed to me that one of the Democratic canadate was the DEVIL I would walk away!! Ok honestly if there was proof, I mean good strong proof that he was the devil would you still support him? I am just shocked but hom many people defend him! AND IF ANYONE THAT IS NOT A bUSH SUPPORTOR KNOWS THE ANSWER PLEASE tell me! It honestly keeps me a wake at night!

 
 
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Tetchie (1286) response was accepted on 6/20/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 89/100. chintoo07 (2956)   ranked 723 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

Hello my friend liperoterachel JI,
A change is always haelthier than any other options. So let's have a change. Change is a life. have a nice time.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Yes, I think a change has long been needed!

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. jillmalitz (2910)   ranked 106 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

I don't know how or why so many people still support him. I have some friends who are Republicans who refuse to hear any thing said against him. I, however, have not been a supporter of his even when he was our governor. I can't say much for his father or brother either, but he is the worst. I feel he is out of touch with reality or just doesn't care. Now he seems to be trying to look like the "good guy" but he still says dumb things like "that will be the next President's problem." I was a little astonished to hear Chris Mathews of Hardball say that he feels eventually Bush will be looked at as a fairly good President. Of course I will be long dead when that happens. But I guess he is right in that history will be the ultimate judge.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I think that everyone will be dead before history looks back and says he was a good president!


RBNLOVESPOH (85)   ranked 654 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Amen jillmalitz. I totally agree with your post. The worst part is he has to come back to Texas. YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

If I were you I wouldn't let him back in!


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

You've made me want to find out who Chris Mathews is of Hardball and shake the s**t out of him. What a ridiculous statement to make. I wish Bush was made accountable for his stupidity and squandering billions and billions of dollars on nothing. If only the right people could track the paper trails!


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

lmfao! That is so funny and I have the worse day so I needed the laugh badly!


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Chris Matthews said that? LOL. I think it's funny because msnbc are always being accused of being liberal puppets, while "fair and balanced" Fox News is declaring Scooter Libby not guilty, and "mistakenly" labeling Republicans democrats if they vote the democrat's way. Oops, typos! Their fingers slipped!


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Well it is a club and when your in a club everyone has to think the same right? Wait you mean i can actually think outside the box and form independent opinions? Are you sure?


myLot reputation of 47/100. revdauphinee (4128)   ranked 375 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

i read a bumper sticker in town the other day that said it all It said "somewhere in Texas a vilage is missing its idiot!"


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Rev - that's priceless. I'm going to pass that one around. lol


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Lol, Love it and so want one!


myLot reputation of 69/100. anniepa (5840)   ranked 221 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I'm surprised that Chris Matthews said that; I watch him every night and I somehow missed that comment. I'd have been calling him some names if I'd heard it...lol!
Speaking of bumper stickers and the like, there was one that said "Would someone please give Bush a Bl*w J*b so we can impeach him!"
Annie

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3. myLot reputation of 84/100. clrumfelt (1138)   ranked 59 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

Yes, I still back him up. He is a hero who has kept America safe through the war on terrorism.
I'm glad he was in office at the time because no one else had the guts to do the things that
President Bush has done to protect our country and other countries of the world from terrorists.
Other administrations had their chance to eliminate the terrorist problems but they turned
a blind eye. President Bush didn't. He rose to the challenge.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Ok, I am marking you down so please don't do it too me these our opionions! Now my question to you do you think that maybe he dropped the ball when we got attacked I mean there is alot of proof that he know it was coming. I mean other administrations stopped attacks from occuring. I am not sure we should give him credit. I would think the presidents before him did a good job because they prevented attacks!


myLot reputation of 90/100. Katesmama (3232)   ranked 79 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

If McBush was so protective of our country, how did 9/11, the most devistating attack since Peral Harbor, happen? I don't get it, especailly now that so many intellegence agencies have come out admiting there were threats and signs of it occuring. Why did it take 9/11 for these securities to be in place? And why was the Patriot Act written long before 9/11? If Bush felt so stongly about our protection, why not propose it sooner? I don't see it as Buch rising to the challenge, I see it as the challenge thrust in his face when he wasn't looking.


myLot reputation of 84/100. clrumfelt (1138)   ranked 59 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

"other administrations prevented attacks.." unless you count the US embassy bombings in Yemen in 1998 or the USS Cole suicide attack of 2000. Other administrations dropped the ball in not putting the bite on those terrorists when they committed those atrocities pre-9/11.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Katesmama (3232)   ranked 79 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

These attacks were planned and executed outside of the US, 9/11 was not.

There will also be enemies to the US, and if we're going to say that these other administrations dropped the ball in forgien lands, why didn't Bush pick it up before 9/11 was accomplished? I stand by my statement that he was hit when he wasn't looking.


myLot reputation of 84/100. clrumfelt (1138)   ranked 59 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I,m just saying everyone knew what a threat Osama Bin Laden was to the USA years before anything happened. If they had done something back then he wouldn't have been able to carry out 9/11.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I don't think you can go after Obama before he acted not to mention he is not the easiest guy to locate Bush has had 8 years to find him and has failed I think that the most important thing is to have a good offense. 9'11 Was well planned and our government had a lot of insite that they did not act on! Not to mention it was the most devastating attack ever to hit american soil that doesn't say alot! I mean that mismannagement in my opinion


myLot reputation of 76/100. creative_genius (660)   ranked 2,528 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I disagree, Bush was filmed when he was told about 9/11. He was in a school reading to small children and he did not rise to the challenge nor react with any emotion. That man wouldn't know how to rise to a challenge unless one person wrote a speech and the other drew him a map on how and whn to say it all...


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Didn't he finish reading the story! lol


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

President Bush hasn't eliminated a terror problem. At least binLaden was AIMED AT befoe, lol, but Bush gave up, focused on Iraq, and started saying bin Laden was just one man and not important. Remember his saying "we're going to hunt him down and smoke him out?" Not only that, but he and his cronies cooked the case on a war to make it appear as though America was in imminent danger from Saddam Hussein. .then did not listen to the military advice to secure the border. Thus creating more instability in the Middle East than ever. Now we're stoplossing and overextending our military and threatening war with Iran.

I wanted to believe in my president, even though I did not vote for him. But the evidence is in like Rachel said. . . and yet again we have an administration that failed us. Not just failed but deceived.


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I thought it was proved, and words came out of Bush's mouth that 9/11 was a smokescreen, and Bin Laden a scape goat. Bush hasn't kept America safe, he has increased the production of bullets. Hmmmm, did you see the documentary "Why We Fight?" Very well worth viewing.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I just don't understanding why he is not being looked into why he is allowed to continue! Honestly no president has ever done this much damage! At least Nixon brought the troups home!


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Nixon actually applied some good foreign policy. Gawd, are we pathetic or what? We have to compare whose lies are the worst rofl. (Not a laugh of happiness.)


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Yes, I know he did! It is a shame we are comparing the current president to an impeached one!


myLot reputation of 95/100. makingpots (4275)   ranked 1,202 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

"other administrations prevented attacks.." unless you count the US embassy bombings in Yemen in 1998 or the USS Cole suicide attack of 2000. Other administrations dropped the ball in not putting the bite on those terrorists when they committed those atrocities pre-9/11.

Those events were very significant and we can't lose sight of them. They were direct attacks on Americans even though they were not on American soil. Greater steps should have been taken at the time of those events and were not. In fact, Clinton had absolute assurrance of Bin Laden's location and intelligence that such things as 9/11 were in the works yet chose to not act on any of it.

Not a Bush fan, I just cringed when that point was just skipped right over because of all the Bush bashing these days.


myLot reputation of 94/100. chertsy (2129)   ranked 528 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

"other administrations prevented attacks.." unless you count the US embassy bombings in Yemen in 1998 or the USS Cole suicide attack of 2000. Other administrations dropped the ball in not putting the bite on those terrorists when they committed those atrocities pre-9/11."

These attacks were all planned by the same people that attacked us on 9/11. I don't know how many of our troops died during the attack on the US embassay, but 18 sailors died on board the USS Cole, where the ship was hit, if it was hit during any food service, more would have died. These 2 attacks where under Clinton, I don't think Clinton did anything about it. Except show up in Norfolk, when those 18 sailors were remembered. This hit me hard, because I'm prior Navy.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Katesmama (3232)   ranked 79 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Hello my friends! I don't think we are glossing over the attacks on the emabassy or the USS Cole, at least, I'm not. And I appoligize if it seems that way. Yes, those were very signifigant events, very sad. My point is that if Clinton knew these things, plans, locations, et cetera,and did indeed drop the ball, why was there not a push by the Bush administration of tie up those loose ends prior to 9/11? We are all aware of the intellegence agencies that were aware of these threats, but how does a Commander in Chief not have some awareness? Condie Rice did, Colin Powell did, CIA did, FBI did, INS did-all had some knowledge. Why didn't Bush act then?

Just a note, for my friends Pots and Chertsy.


myLot reputation of 55/100. toledomark1975 (329)   ranked 308 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I am amazed that you consider a man that sits in an office, takes vactions like you take take trips to the store, and had the courage to send other people off to do what he would never do. What a hero. The real heros are the men and women that are out there fighting his war, we all know that the twins were much more important to the world than to fight (just like daddy) for their country. But, he didn't waste a second sending the rest of our kids off to die in a foreign land for his reelection. Bush has not eliminated terrorist, and many in the pentagon believe that our war in Iraq has produced thousands of new terrorist. It sure doesn't take guts to send Americans into war to risk their lives so you can get reelected, it takes alot of nerve, and we all know that Bush has alot of that, and very little guts.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I agree! He would never have served in Iraq if he was the right age his parents would have made sure he had a nice safe job.


myLot reputation of 84/100. clrumfelt (1138)   ranked 59 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

We'll never know.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

:)


myLot reputation of 88/100. revellanotvanella (1045)   ranked 73 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I agree fully! Until Bush is able to confiscate Bin Laden and FINISH WHAT HE STARTED then you can try to tell me otherwise but no he went and rages a war in Iraq and its costing us billions and compromising the safety of our country even more because now the army is stretched tight and Im fearful Bush is attempting another war somewhere else before his administration is over with! Oh, and what about the massive floods here in the states--don't they deserve attention, they DO affect us all, food prices are only rising and thousands of acres of unusuable farmland and dead hogs--thats not good news but its like Bush expects some person to do the work for him at home so he can go play cowboy, I still do not understand why Congress didnt put their foot down a long time ago and still insist on giving him blank checks.

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4. myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (10037)   ranked 334 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

I am not an American but I hate bush! When they colonized Iraq and polarized the people of the world, I know he is evil. he let the war destroyed the relics in Iraq which are the relics of ancient civilization. Maybe he does not understand that but it can not be an alibi. He should be whipped as much as the number of women and children raped in iraq! What I can not fathom is why he became president in the first place!


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I never supported going into Iraq ever! I always thought it was a diversion tactic because his approval rating was low because he couldn't find Osama Be laden! That and he wanted an excuse to get to all that oil! He is still working on getting an approval to drill in the North Pole something that many scientist say could be devastating to the planet!


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Shortsighted and devastating all at once. Make no mistake, Saddam Hussein was evil, but even the guy's father knew it was unwise to destabilize the region by taking him out without an alternative government.


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Hey, who said that calling Bush evil, was an insult to Satan? There was the inference that Bush is too stupid to be evil. That was funny, and so true! Was it someone from the United Nations? Might have been Nelson Mandela, not sure.


myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (10037)   ranked 334 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

the whole family laughed out loud when i read to them techie's comment!


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

lol, she is making me laugh as well!


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I'd like to take credit for this, but some big pin actually made the comment. Someone asked 'do you think George Bush is evil', and some man responded with that clever comeback. See, the devil is very very intelligent, Bush doesn't come close. He is a puppet of course. But come on! I'm wondering what happens when he gets to those pearly gates, when judgment is put in front of him. Ignorance and being the President of the most powerful country in the world - don't go together and if he thinks he has got away with it he should think again! He'll either get his karmic return while alive, or he'll get it next life. Either way, he's going to get it.


myLot reputation of 94/100. Tetchie (1286)   ranked 318 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

When I google the statement it comes up with Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez. Not much of a track record there either, but at least he says intelligent things.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Hugo, is alot brighter then we all give him credit for!

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5. myLot reputation of 90/100. Katesmama (3232)   ranked 79 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

I'm with you Rach, I don't have a flippin' clue how Bush was elected a second time around, though I'm very aware of the first debacle! All I can really say is that no matter what, this time next year, he will not be in charge anymore. I just feel soory for whoever is charged with cleaning up the mess, whether it is my candidate or that other guy.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

He cheated thats how he got elected! I pray that this doesn't happen with McCain because he will follow in Bush's shadows!


myLot reputation of 96/100. polachicago (6169)   ranked 482 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Yes, Bush cheated. I am afraid that he may want to help McClain with his old cheating strategy.... sad


myLot reputation of 97/100. cynddvs (2223)   ranked 4 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Speaking of cheating I'm already worried about how in the world McCain won the primary election. I haven't come across one single person who voted for him. That just doesn't make sense to me. All of the republicans that are voting for him in the election say they are only voting for him because they believe he is the lesser of the two evils. I just worry this will be yet another fixed election.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I will be shocked if McCain wins and really mad at the American people! He is a terrible choice! I mean so mad I might move to Canada!


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Some of us threatened the same thing when Bush got elected. ..both times. But I rethought it because I figured Canada might not appreciate all of us, lol.


myLot reputation of 69/100. anniepa (5840)   ranked 221 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

"I mean so mad I might move to Canada!"
Rach, do you suppose we could carpool to save money on gas?
Annie


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Sure! We can carpool!


myLot reputation of 88/100. revellanotvanella (1045)   ranked 73 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

If its one thing we learn from this Administration it is that we all know how powerful FEAR can be and that Bush's fear campaign has worked and that in the future we as citizens need to be the ones to put our foot down because It doesn't look like a 'bipartisan' congress is capable and sorry to say that but maybe we can go into this next administration thinking of all middle class citizens as the powerhouse behind things instead of the wealthier class just making all the decisions for us.....just thinking.

 
6. myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (6754)   ranked 438 out of 3,824 in politics   4 months ago

I just stopped by to say hi, I will be looking forward to reading your responses. Interesting topic.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

Hi Polly you don't want to throw your hat into the ring!

Hugs

Rachel


myLot reputation of 97/100. Polly1 (6754)   ranked 438 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I am not a fan. I live in Ohio, the deciding state for the election. He turns my stomach. There is a man form my city named Tom Noe that basically bought the election for Bush. He stole money from the people of Ohio to fund Bush's campaign. Right now he is sitting in prison for a long time. Anymore politics turn my stomach, they are all a bunch of crooks and we suffer for it. I had just wanted to stop by and say hi. Now you got my dander up, hehe. We do need a change, but is it coming to late for some of us. our country has been going in the wrong direction for a long time. Change can not come soon enough.


myLot reputation of 86/100. liperoterachel (10204)   ranked 227 out of 3,824 in politics  4 months ago

I agree what ever administration follows this one is going to have its hands full


myLot reputation of 88/100. MoonlightSerenade (608)   ranked 104 out of 3,824 in