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myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting2 years ago

I've been trying to potty train my 2 year old for about a month or so. He's not really picking it up well. He has gone on the potty a couple times, accidentally. I tell him to sit on it many times a day, but he will just cry because he'd rather go play, and the whole time he sits there all he says is "get up?". Sometimes the moment I let him up will be when he pees all over the floor. If I catch him mid-stream I will bring him to the potty and make him sit, but then he'll just hold it and wait until he's let up before finishing it somewhere in another area of the house.

It's frustrating. Sometimes I feel like giving up, but I think that would be worse right now. I think I have to just keep pushing and eventually he will get it.

Did anyone else have such problems when they began potty training?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9143)   ranked 1,125 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

I've raised four kids and I had a hard time with my son, too, so I did give up. The reason was because going to the potty was becoming something that he saw as something negative, something that he did not want to do. Instead I left the potty chair in the living room and let him play with it whenever he was in the mood to and, eventually, he started showing an interest in being a "big boy" and using the potty. My philosophy is this: As long as the kid isn't still in diapers when he starts school, it doesn't matter exactly when he started using the potty. I had the same attitude about the bottle and none of my kids wore diapers or took a bottle to school.


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I had that attitude with my older 3 children as well as far as the diapers went. They were all trained after they'd already turned 3.
However I also have a 5 month old in diapers, and can't really afford to continue purchasing 2 pkgs a week, which is why I got this one started on the potty so early.

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2. myLot reputation of 94/100. mclendon (240)   ranked 842 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

Rewards work best for potty training IMO. There are pullups around now that allow them to feel wet when they are wet. You could use those or training underwear and plastic pants so he can tell when he's wet. Then tell him you would like him to use the potty and that he will get a sticker (or some other small reward) when he uses it. You could give him a star on a chart and when he racks up a certain number of stars he earns a bigger reward, like an ice cream or something.
The potty training should be a positive experience and not a negative one.
When he goes in his pants, if you can get him to clean up or help clean up that will reinforce that going in the pants is more trouble and a negative thing. Don't fuss a lot or give him a lot of attention when he messes up,(little talking while cleaning up). The attention, even if negative, may reinforce the behavior. Instead, praise like crazy when he uses the potty and you give him a reward. You may have to just tell him and remind him about the reward potential for a few days in a row before he decides to use the potty. But try to get him to make the right choice himself and praise, praise, praise!


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

Of course I already do praise him when he does go on the potty, the few times that he has, and knowing that his accidents are just that, I don't do too much over them accept bring him to the potty.
He's only 2 and won't understand the idea of rewards. His vocabulary and comprehension aren't quite that good yet. He's practically still a baby.

Has this method worked with your kids? How old were they when they were trained?


myLot reputation of 94/100. mclendon (240)   ranked 842 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

Yes, my son was potty-trained at age 2. I used a little potty chair and put a sticker on the back of it every time he used it. He was very excited to get a sticker. After the first few he wanted to put the sticker on himself.
I think your two year old would understand a small reward for a "job" well done.
My daughter was harder to train, but was pretty well trained by about 2 1/2. Pretty much the same method. With her, I would take her to the potty about 15 to 30 minutes after a meal and try to get her to try it. She had more accidents than my son, but still was well trained by 3.

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3. myLot reputation of 100/100. littleone3 (1320)   ranked 535 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

I am finding the same thing happening with my two year old. He gets the idea what the potty is for but would rather wee on the floor then sit on it. He is at the stage when he will come and tell me if he needs a nappy change as he knows when he has pooed.
But i am not too concerned as he is my fifth child and all my other children did it in their own time.
I just leave the potty were he can see it so he knows its there if he feels like using it.
I did that with all my children and the day did come when they decided that they wanted to use the potty. But there was a few accidents but that is something to be expected. I believe it is best to allow the child to do it in their own time as all children are different and develop at a different rate.


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I agree, and that's pretty much how I did it with my older children. However this one is my 4th and my 5th is 5 months old. That means 2 pkgs of diapers each week! Hence the reason we started so early.

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4. myLot reputation of 86/100. jashley1 (575)   ranked 1,859 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

Hey, you're doing a great job! Try not to get frustrated - although I know this can be a long and drawn out process - but try to remain patient. I think the important thing to remember is to not "force" him to sit on the potty, but rather word it in an encouraging way so he thinks it's his choice. I found that when potty training my kids - they wanted to be independent and found it much more enticing to go when they got to decide when they wanted to go. I'd say things like "Mommy needs to go potty like a big girl, do you need to go too?" and then my daughter would be like "hmm yes!" and sit on there while I sat on there. Sometimes I'd let her sit on the portable one in the living room while watching tv just to get a feel of when she needed to go and then once she went I'd give her lots of praise and hugs and kisses. Just try to monitor his drinking and encourage him to just "sit" on it every few hours or according to his bladder needs...you know him best. Try to have your husband (if applicable) take him with him so they can go together. Try putting cheerios in the potty and then having him try to hit the cheerios when peeing..kind of a fun game and teaching him how to aim at the same time. I've trained two girls, and my son is now 7 months old so it may be different with him. If he resists all together try taking a break and then encouraging him to go again in a week or so. He has plenty of time! Hope this helps and stay encouraged...he will get it!


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I've trained 2 boys and 1 girl, this is the 3rd boy I'm training, but the others weren't quite this difficult, they were also older.
I have the potty in the living room with us for convenience, because the bathroom is on the other side of the kitchen, which is blocked off for safety reasons to him.
We take a few breaks, I put diapers on him at bedtime of course, and when we go out. Sunday he had a diaper all day. I'm afraid that's only making him go backwards due to confusion.
I will just keep chugging and eventually he will get it right.
Thanks for your response. Have a great day.


myLot reputation of 51/100. zhuuraan (714)   ranked 2,664 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

Haha cheerios! Thta's funny! lol I like that one and it's cute too! haha might have to pass that idea around a bit lol

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5. myLot reputation of 81/100. Barbietre (1237)   ranked 2,788 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

Boys are harder to train and to be honest I think 2 is too early. I do not think your son really understands what is going on. Also some children do not have as much control of their spincher muscles... For bowel movements, as early as others.

My son was not mentally ready until he was about 3 and a half because one day when my mother was watching him she decided he should be trained so she had a marathon type training day. Well he was so scared after that day he would not even look at one.
But when I sensed he was ready I offered him a reward and he only had one accident after that ( because I was on the phone and when he said he had to go). And to me if a child has more than one or two accidents then they are not really trained, and any parents who claim they are trained are only fooling themselves.
A child HAS to understand what they are doing. Not to be crude, but he should be noticing that his dad uses "the big potty" and want to copy him, that is a BIG motivator. Social cues are very important.


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

He's pretty smart for a 2 year old. I think he can understand the concept. I've trained 3 other kids, but none as early as him. When we began he seemed to get the concept and actually asked to go a few times, but has since done what I explained above.


myLot reputation of 81/100. Barbietre (1237)   ranked 2,788 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

They all have their own timetable. I hate when parents try to push them when they are not ready. I Know what my mother did was a big setback. His younger brother trained earlier than he did because I waited until he was ready.
The joke is my Mom said I was trained at 18 months. But did you now in those days the high chairs had a potty seat on it..gross, all they did was "catch" it.


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I've seen those. Yuck!!

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. carlaabt (3164)   ranked 131 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

My son was really easy to potty trained. I gave him stickers on his sticker chart, each time he used the potty, flushed, and washed his hands. I had a circle for each place that a sticker went, and then when he got to the tenth sticker in each place, I had the circle done boldly, so he understood where the stickers had to reach before he got his special prize, since he didn't grasp the concept of numbers yet.

He was consistently peeing in the potty all the time about a 5 or 6 weeks before he was able to consistently poo in it, though.

One thing that he really liked, was using the big potty, instead of his potty chair. He will use the potty chair if he really needs to go, and can't make it to the bathroom, but he prefers to use the big potty, with one of those little seats on it. It makes him feel more grown up!

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7. myLot reputation of 86/100. Gemmygirl1 (2628)   ranked 583 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

Ok, you really need to stop pushing, the more you push the more he'll not want to do it. If you continue to push you may scare him away from the potty completely & it'll take even longer.

Obviously he just isn't ready to begin & he's trying to tell you that so you need to leave it for a little bit & let him take an interest in it, in his own time.

If you insist on forcing him to go with it, perhaps leave the potty alone & put him on the toilet. My daughter has no interest in her potty & if she's nappy-less she'll just hold on until she's got a nappy on again. However, she will happily sit on the big toilet & has gone a couple of times.

Also, from what i have heard, little boys are harder than little girls so if 2 is too young for my daughter then there's a good chance it's even more too young for your son, you're just not listening to him:)

Don't stress about it & again, don't force it or you'll keep him from wanting to go at all on his own. He'll take an interest in it when he's ready & you should just sit back & wait for that time to come!


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I'm not actually pushing. I just re-read what I wrote, and where I said "keep pushing" I sort of meant that as keep chugging, you know, not really pushing him.
My other kids were 3 and a half before they were trained, and they still weren't "showing an interest" although they did pick it up much quicker than this.


myLot reputation of 91/100. beautyqueen26 (9133)   ranked 299 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

We tried to potty train our little girl starting
around two years old, because it seemed the right time
cause she didn't want to wear diapers anymore.

But turns out she did not want to use the potty chair.
She was very happy to use the big person's toilet though.
And never got the hang of the potty chair.

Maybe things are different for a boy.

Maybe he doesn't like the idea of having to sit down.
I'm not sure he's tall enough to stand up but he may
think that is what he is supposed to be doing, especially
if he has seen his older brothers standing up to use
the potty to pee. Kids role model each other.

Here are some useful links from the experts you might be
able to use.

Best of luck with your child.

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myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

Beauty-
Actually he's never seen any of the boys go, and I taught all my boys by sitting down first. They learn to stand later. I started by going with him and showing him how I do it, but have since moved the potty to the living room for convenience, as the bathroom is on the other side of the kitchen, and the kitchen is gated off to him for safety reasons.

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8. devyn33 (2)   2 years ago

My son had a problem pooping on the potty. We had quite a few messes before he would finally do it. Don't give up...it will happen when he is ready. Don't push too hard, just let it happen on his time. Good luck!

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9. myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7499)   ranked 678 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

My son tried at 2 yrs old, even succeeded a couple of times, but he never really got it and then he just refused. It became so much of an issue and was stressing us all out, so we said we would try later. We kept talking about it and just let him go. He didn't try again until about 3 1/2 and then he just did it, almost all of a sudden. One day he asked to wear his 'big boy undies' and that was it.

He did try to 'back out of it' a couple of times. I just told him that was fine but he would have to sit on 'the brown towel' on the floor. He really didn't appreciate that and he decided that he would go in the potty instead. LOL! There was very little 'training' involved as he was just ready for the next step and took it himself, with no stress to him or us.;) It's been great and he has not had but a few accidents, wet ones. He's done wonderfully as HE was ready and was not being forced by us. It was hard for me as I had my mom telling me to MAKE him sit on the pottie. I just couldn't see that as he would cry and be so miserable and just hold it until I put a diaper or pull up back on him. I felt so bad and he felt bad and what does my mom know about MY son anyways? LOL!

I had many supportive friends telling me that it's very common for boys to potty train later and just do it when they are ready and that is what he did and he is so proud and does so well now. He never has an accident. It's great and we are all happy and the diapers were not really that big a deal looking back now. His success is what is more important.


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4948)   ranked 146 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

I didn't think my older boys would catch on quickly either, that's why I waited longer with them.
I'm starting him sooner because he has a younger brother already, and having 2 in diapers just isn't fun, lol.
I didn't expect him to catch on right away, but he is a very smart boy and really understands, he just doesn't want to go. We'll keep trying a bit longer and see what happens.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7499)   ranked 678 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

Mine is an only child, but all the rest sounds VERY familiar. LOL! Good luck!


myLot reputation of 51/100. zhuuraan (714)   ranked 2,664 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

No offense, but if you couldn't afford to children with diapers, You shouldn't have gone there. You know what I mean. That is irresponsible and your child should not have to suffer for your bad decision. Based on the ages, It seems you got pregnant again just about as soon as the 2 year old popped out. It's like boom and he's out and suddenly yeap there's another. If you couldn't have handled it you shouldn't have had another one til he was potty trained instead of forcing him. I don't have kids yet but when I do, they will be at least 2 and a half to 3 years appart for that very reason.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7499)   ranked 678 out of 14,957 in parenting  2 years ago

"No offense but" I always find it so amusing that people that do NOT have children have such SAGE advice to give! LOL! Don't you katsmeow? And those are always the ones who are right, ha ha ha, isn't that funny(sarcasm intended)? rolleyes zhuuraan, you will OF COURSE, seek the counsel of the untried and inexperienced when YOU have your own children. winkwink

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10. myLot reputation of 54/100. rane0328 (105)   ranked 2,787 out of 14,957 in parenting   2 years ago

I have two kids and my first was a pain to potty train, when u sit him on the potty try giving him a toy to play with, sometimes it will take their mind off of holding it and they will go and when he does potty make a big deal about it and give him some candy or something to reward him, skittles were my sons favorite, after one week my son was potty trained. and good luck!!:)

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