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myLot reputation of 84/100. oneandonemakesix (24038)   ranked 1,478 out of 38,434 in life1 year ago

This story stems from a family who supposedly killed their teenage daughter for refusing to wear the traditional headscarf,

I can understand that families want to preserve tehir heritage, but I have to say right now that I can't even begin to say what I think here,

This is what appears to be a case of a person trying to fit in and find her own identity, not necessarily wanting to be part of the culture she was raised in.

And she died because of it

Her father was charged with murder, as was her brother also charge recently, and it brings into question, of how can a family or especially kids fit into a new culture....

Can there be a happy medium where families can say they can live with the culture being practiced at home, and not so much in a public setting?

my inspiration for this article came from this news story

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,373223,00.html

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tags:  culture shock, culture, murder, headscarf, no reason to kill
 
1. myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (9961)   ranked 3,590 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

These are zealots and even their family can not escape. Good thing here in Manila, Philippines, i have seen muslim women who just hang their headscarf in their necks and not cover their heads. It is really so hot here that putting it in their head will make it hotter.

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2. myLot reputation of 29/100. sataness (206)   ranked 10,928 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

It's a sorry state of affairs when someone is killed over a head scarf. They also kill their daughter if she doesn't go into an arranged marriage or has an unfit boyfriend also. The sad thing is in one aspect we're taught to express our beliefs in our own ways..and there are charitys and women protests now actively working for the rights in that community, this has been going on for years the fact you hear about it now is because women are now speaking out for themselves and standing up for their beliefs; we also know it publically because lately its now illegal to kill over it..their government used to turn a blind eye to it in the past.. it's hard to find a happy medium with extremeists out there but keep faith. Actions being taken and hopefully people will be able to express their beliefs in their own way without a dominating hand x

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. saivenkaat802003 (3082)   ranked 448 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago


It is sorry to hear that they killed their daughter for a paltry matter.

The traditions are a mark of their religion. No religion compels on to inflict harm on others.. The essence of all religion is " Universal brother hood" and the " Love should prevail in this world". There is no use in following the traditional practices alone, but setting aside what morals are taught in the religion.

Had the Girl, worn the head scarf, and took violence to practice.. will the religious tradition tolerate her action.

So me it is ridiculous to compel one.. to follow the old practices.. If at the young generations will, to follow.. then no problem.

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4. myLot reputation of 89/100. zandi458 (5923)   ranked 631 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

This is truly shocking! Some cultures are brutal and they view women as sinners who plays virgin in the light but needs no urging in the night. Their belief is that men will commit sins at the prospect of looking at women. So to avoid men sinning they insist their women should be scarfed. But by killing they have committed mortal sin unforgivable by God.

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5. myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2034)   ranked 268 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

It is tragic. But I think it was about more than the headscarf. When a woman of their culture goes in public without covering her hair she is considered a harlot. And this is the same culture that kills a female family member if she is raped. Women are property that belongs to the male head of the family.

This is very difficult for us Westerners to wrap our minds around. But when they live in our culture they have to follow our laws. So they will be punished and her death is a huge waste of human life.

It is such a tangle is created when we try to mix cultures that are so different.


myLot reputation of 29/100. sataness (206)   ranked 10,928 out of 38,434 in life  1 year ago

In the end.. No one belongs to anyone and they are beginning to understand that. If you look at rates you tend to find we are mixing as we move into eachothers areas and cultures and to me when a woman moves over here and suddenly starts taking off her headscarf because in this culture she is allowed to do so..then it also shows there's more going on than meets the eye. Would it be right to ignore it? personally i don't think so but..
In the end men don't cover their heads..how can it be such a fair religion or life if their is a constand imbalance in the sexes... you'll also find its a common practise that the man teach the children to disrepect their mother and that beating women is acceptable.. its not just about wrapping our heads around their culture.. it's knowing something so barbaric and vicious as being killed over clothing is allowed!

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6. myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (5170)   ranked 564 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago


How sad.

Unfortunately, that's the way things are handled in some cultures.

What I don't understand is, if someone insists on keeping those cultures and traditions alive, why don't they stay in the area of the world where that is customary, instead of trying to assimilate into our western world where they will be shunned, where their children will be torn between worlds?

If someone wants to get away from the life that is keeping them captive in those traditions, why would they continue to practice the traditions that are accepted there after they leave?


myLot reputation of 29/100. sataness (206)   ranked 10,928 out of 38,434 in life  1 year ago

Not all do but as it's been told before.. these people are under an incredibly strict ruling.. It's hard o break out of a habit where the men are in control, have the say in everything and tend to want to do whats being preached.
And some women may find that they have to put up with it because that's their role in life.
It's also the idea that they believe their way is right like we may do at times. Hence the amount of people now in jail because of terrorist threats and racist speaches


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (5170)   ranked 564 out of 38,434 in life  1 year ago


Again, why would they leave their homeland where those practices are accepted as the norm, and come to a western culture where they know it is not?


myLot reputation of 29/100. sataness (206)   ranked 10,928 out of 38,434 in life  1 year ago

Why did hitler decide to try conquer the world knowing that his murders wouldn't be accepted by everyone? because he had an idea in his head, that he figured was the ideal and that everyone would follow.. Your also forgetting poverty is rife in those areas so they tend to search for a place which pays more to keep larger families.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. cyberkunal (745)   ranked 1,270 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

i knw man ..this is really sad!!
i mean..hw can any1 kill deir child..for keeping their pride..damm sad..dese people shld be thrown out of human kind.. damm m gettin very angey at these people..wht do these people thing of demselves man..sad..veryyy sad..how can a family do dat to their own kid..man..this is really sad!!!!!!!!! m gettin very angry hearin 2 dis

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8. myLot reputation of 83/100. Bluepatch (2483)   ranked 3,717 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

I definitely think that an aspect of culture is no reason at all to kill somebody.
Those people either have no control over their tempers or have a totally unbalanced idea about their culture.
If they feel so strongly about something like that just put the person out of the house or deny them an essential until they conform.
Killing is usually done for more serious reasons. Nowadays people kill for such nonsense its unbelievable.
They definitely should be charged for murder.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. lingli_78 (10204)   ranked 6,723 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

that is really sad... to kill a daughter just because of a headscarf... really ridiculous... i know that we have to preserve our cultures and heritages... but not too extreme... this is what happened when people become too extreme in trying to impose their rules, cultures, religious beliefs, etc... anything that is done too extreme will result in a disastrous consequences... that is what i thought... take care and have a nice day...

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10. myLot reputation of 62/100. kangallo (1598)   ranked 1,927 out of 38,434 in life   1 year ago

This is a big problem in society. Everybody has to adjust to the family prestige, whether he or she likes it or not.
The reason for this is not knowing the value of freedom. Freedom is a nectar, freedom is honey, one should be aware of freedom. But people do not want to give freedom to others, neither do they want to enjoy freedom themselves. People do not want freedom for themselves because freedom brings with it great responsibility. People are afraid of the responsibility.

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