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myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics3 months ago

I am listening to an item on CNN about how they are allowing illegal aliens to vote in elections here in the USA! This is a big problem. These people have NO legal rights in our country. They are breaking the law just by being here, they are consuming vital US resources that are being denied to citizens because there's not enough available and they are choosing the leaders of the USA! They are here and do NOT pay taxes. This is so unjust. Whatever happened to INS doing their jobs and deporting a few million illegal aliens!" I needed a good rant after hearing that story. Thanks for listening.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. coffeebreak (2807)   ranked 202 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

They also are allowed to take our jobs, our social security, our welfare benefits and our medical accomodationg - while US citizens do without all of the above. Voteing is just the icing on the cake. IT is totaly disgusting but the liberals are the ones that are allowing it to happen as they fight everything anyone trys to do to stop it - like the border wall. Now canoers are complaining about that as it conflicts with their little leasure time sport and it is holding up the border wall!


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

We elect Congress to protect our liberties and it is sad that they are giving them all away. If they stand to gain votes in the election from illegal voters, I suppose they will continue the pandering. I hope when the next Congressional elections come about, the voters will "clean House" and Senate, too.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. littleowl (2347)   ranked 1,559 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

Hi circumfelt though I live in the UK I can undersatand you being so upset about this as we too have that problem...to be honest I donn't think there will ever be an answer to what you are saying even though so many of us oppse what is happening in our countrys...the only country that I think is more strict with these laws and don't allow people like this in is Australia...their laws are very strict about this-your friend littleowl


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Thanks for your reply littleowl. I agree it is a problem without an answer. I'm sure INS is overloaded with doing their job, but it seems there could be more done. Maybe if they were diligent there wouldn't be so MANY illegal aliens taking people's jobs and meddling in our affairs(yes, if they are voting illegally they are meddling.)

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3. myLot reputation of 78/100. Wolfechu (821)   ranked 438 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

Well, I'm a legal resident alien, and I don't get a vote. How does that work, exactly?


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

As a legal alien you are as welcome to me as a law abiding citizen, but you won't be allowed to vote until you become a naturalized citizen through INS. There is an application process you must go through to do that. Here is a website that tells what is involved. Good luck.
http://www.ecitizenship.us/Citizenship_FAQ.htm

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4. myLot reputation of 75/100. myklj999 (5174)   ranked 86 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

WTF??!! That is just so wrong! (Not what you are saying; but that it is happening.) How are these people even being allowed to register to vote? That's crazy!


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

They are being allowed to register for the vote because the election offices haven't required them to produce naturalization papers. The offices say it would cause difficulty for the real citizens to be able to vote if they required all of them to show the papers, but in my opinion these election offices that let them slip through are not doing their jobs and if they are caught they should be fired.


myLot reputation of 95/100. mommyboo (1504)   ranked 378 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Well, if they did not let illegal aliens get drivers licenses, they would not have a legal form of ID and if they were not born here in the US, they would not have a birth certificate either - unless they became a citizen and had naturalization papers.

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5. myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (3204)   ranked 401 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

I am so glad you can watch CNN, because I sure cannot. Well at lest they did not take the side of the illegal on this issue. After the GTMO SCOTUS court decision people who were trying to make the case that these foreigner deserved Constitutional right said that are not all men created equal. Well my argument was if all men are created equal then should not all men have the right to vote in our election. Sure people scoffed at the idea, but look now we have a story right here. These illegals are negating my and everyone else's legal vote with their illegal vote. What happen to the INS is that it became political incorrect to capture illegals, that is what happen. The other day I saw a commercial for the border patrol, and not one time did it ever reference stopping illegals from coming into this country. All the commercial talked about was stopping the drug flow into the country, and working outdoors.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

The government's insidious plan to form a North American Union, erasing the borders
of Mexico and Canada to form a one continent "country" is in the works and almost
certain to become reality in a short time. There has been a media blackout on the progression of this plan, and and the politcians are likely to have it completely into law before long. That explains why there is nothing being done about securing the border between the USA and Mexico. Before long there won't be a border. You can read about it here: http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Borders.htm


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Backtracking, I have found the transcript of the meeting where this NAU plan was supposedly planned, and there was a lot of imphasis on the cooperation of the USA, Canada and Mexico securing their borders and catching terrorists and criminals who try to cross. I hope they really do something instead of just talk about it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov...


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Oops! Typo! The word is "emphasis."

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. fwidman (2280)   ranked 47 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

If they are allowed to register to vote, then they get to vote, it's a simple thing really happy If you don't want them to be able to vote, get the Congress to change the way registration for voters is done


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

By the existing laws they should not be able to register to vote. The problem is that so many election offices are turning their heads and allowing them to register without proof they are naturalized citizens. It appears that in a short time it won't matter anyway because the USA is about to erase the borders between the USA, Mexico and Canada.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Backtracking, I have found the transcript of the meeting where this NAU plan was supposedly planned, and there was a lot of imphasis on the cooperation of the USA, Canada and Mexico securing their borders and catching terrorists and criminals who try to cross. I hope they really do something instead of just talk about it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov...


myLot reputation of 95/100. mommyboo (1504)   ranked 378 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

When you register to vote, you have to include driver license information. I would propose that illegal aliens should not be allowed to get a drivers license. I do not see what is so hard about becoming LEGAL. There are so many people who aren't, it's just like going into a store and stealing something you want because you don't have the money. Why not go do a job for somebody and earn the damn money, THEN go to the store? GRRR.


myLot reputation of 95/100. fwidman (2280)   ranked 47 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

I wish the USA would get over their bullpuckey about the borders. The more they try to "fix" things, the more people come over here. Wouldn't it be simpler to take all that wasted government money and help all those dirt poor people across the border so that they have no need to come over here? Oh wait...if we did that who would pick the fruits and veggies lol

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. ShellyB (961)   ranked 902 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

Something else to ask Congress about.
If illegal imigrants are allow to vote, it is because the goverment thinks it is convenient for them.
(I also heard somewhere in the news that recruiting men from Mexico to the Army is ok and legal)


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Plans are almost complete for the USA to eliminate their borders with Mexico and Canada, so then it won't matter where on the continent they are from, they will have full "rights" like everyone else...or maybe not, because the US Constitution will also be rewritten.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Backtracking, I have found the transcript of the meeting where this NAU plan was supposedly planned, and there was a lot of imphasis on the cooperation of the USA, Canada and Mexico securing their borders and catching terrorists and criminals who try to cross. I hope they really do something instead of just talk about it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov...

There was not a media blackout at that meeting.

 
8. myLot reputation of 59/100. kerriannc (1718)   ranked 738 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

You are surely not welcome. lolThis is the most stupidness I have ever come across since putting interest in America Politics. America Voting is done by electronic and if you are not a citizen you cannot vote. Your voting system was adopted by our country and was used in the past three elections and was successful. So that news on CNN is false and misleading. My friend do not get high blood pressure. Maybe they were unable to received some good headlines and putting false information sometimes tends to grab person to watch the other uninteresting news item. As to the illegal aliens, every country has this problem and it will not go away anytime soon. Maybe when China is in the position that U.S.A. is in now then the aliens will start to migrating there. lol


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Snopes.com listed this as rumor, but since there has been a media blackout, I wonder where they are getting their information. I know people tend to trustSnopes without question, but I am not ready to throw my reasoning away because
something is reported there.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Backtracking, I have found the transcript of the meeting where this NAU plan was supposedly planned, and there was a lot of imphasis on the cooperation of the USA, Canada and Mexico securing their borders and catching terrorists and criminals who try to cross. I hope they really do something instead of just talk about it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov...

 
9. myLot reputation of 25/100. redyellowblackdog (3078)   ranked 624 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

What can I tell you? Some things are so stupid as to defy belief. Yet, there are citizens who think it would be mean to deny these illegals the vote, free education, and free health care.


myLot reputation of 93/100. thelastwolf113 (1905)   ranked 154 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

By that reasoning, isn't it mean that my family doesn't have free education or free healthcare?
I'm saying is, take care of us, the US citizens first. I have no problem with immigrants, but they need to do it in the proper manner, get a work-visa, green card.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

Mexico is a very needy country and the USA has a lot it could share, but we should take care of our own first and not be coerced to "share" our resources by force.


myLot reputation of 95/100. mommyboo (1504)   ranked 378 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

I absolutely agree. We need to take care of AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST. This is the bottom line. I don't see anything else even remotely fair about not taking care of your own citizens of your own country first. What we are doing as a country is akin to a family deciding that instead of paying their own bills and mortgage and car payments and for their kids' school stuff and sports and doctor visits to take their money and go throw it in the street in the ghetto section of town. Really. What the heck?! Do you really think a family would do that? Probably not. But our government is doing that!!

We need to stop doing anything to help these people who are not legally allowed to be here. They are not american citizens. They should not get ANY help whatsoever until EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN has what they need, food, shelter, a job, an education, health care, a chance to better their life. When this is done, then we can begin to help those who are not supposed to be here - but in return they have to take steps to become legal, or again the help should be withdrawn. Totally.

 
10. myLot reputation of 93/100. thelastwolf113 (1905)   ranked 154 out of 3,817 in politics   3 months ago

It's obvious to me that INS isn't supposed to be 'doing their job'. Last year, when the illegals held a HUGE rally in LA, where was INS?
There they were all rounded up for them in one area, all INS had to do was pick them up. And it was publicized IN ADVANCE! If I knew about it, then INS knew about it.
This country is going down the tubes.
The politicians don't want to deport them because they are potential voters. And THAT'S all they care about.


myLot reputation of 3/100. kennyrose (1064)   ranked 3,339 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

My husband was born in El Paso,teas he knows first hand how bad it has been in Texas for many years.
I watched a news clip on Fox News about illegals leaving the state of Texas in large numbers returning to their homes in Mexico.
The law has cracked down on employers in Texas,making finding work for the Mexican people very hard.
Day labor workers mill around for hours and more hours go home come back in the morning and mill around all day,in hopes they will get to work,the call don't come,because of the harsher fines against employers.
This clip talked to Mexican people they told the reporter they was going back home,they came to the U.S. to work but any more their is no work for them,they have no choice but to go back to their homes in Mexico.
My husband here in Oregon is a profession tree trimmer his guy that works with him is a Mexican man,been in the U.S. fourteen years,we simple love this wonderful man,he is a very good person and outstanding worker.
He renews his work visa when it is required if him,but he is going back to his ranch to live in Mexico before much longer.
If Barack Obama is elected president think we are moving to Mexico our selfs,we are not at all interested living in the U.S. after Obama forms his Civilian National Security Force sounds to much like socialism to us.
One thing about illegals they would be safe cause Obama said on July 22,2008 during his call to service speech in Colorado Springs,Co, he will be calling every American to community services in their neighborhoods,the illegals are not yet Americans so they will not be required to preform community services,nor likely be called in to action under Barack Obama's "Civilian National Security Force"being they are not Americans.



myLot reputation of 93/100. thelastwolf113 (1905)   ranked 154 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

There is nothing I like about Obama's vision for the US. I'd like to leave too.


myLot reputation of 83/100. clrumfelt (1134)   ranked 59 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

I have no use for Obama's ideas for the USA. Do you think Mexico will tightly secure its border to keep US out if he gets into office?


myLot reputation of 95/100. mommyboo (1504)   ranked 378 out of 3,817 in politics  3 months ago

I will tell you,*I* will not be required to perform any service no matter what some nutjob says. Whatever. There has been nothing that George Bush has said that I*had* to do and the same will happen in the future. I live here, but the president is not GOD and my life is my own.

 
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