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myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832) 4 years ago

My brother is an idiot, he is 36 years old, the oldest of 5 (I'm 28, the baby) and he still doesn't have his s&!T together. He has 5 kids from 3 different women two of which he has to pay child support to. He had called me and told me that he is behind on his oldest sons child support by $1,700 dollars and that his ex was going to have him thrown in jail and that he really needed my help. I talked it over with my husband and we decided to help him, so we sent him the money to pay the child support. Two weeks later we find out that he has moved to New Mexico (from Arizona) and was evading the law, he now has a warrant, he never paid the court!!! What a loser, I swear to God, I am so completely pissed that he has done this to his son, to me, to everyone. He will never see his son, or his daughter who also lives in Arizona, he moved to New Mexico with his new wife and the other 3 smaller kids. I can't believe that he could abandon his kids like that when he HAD THE MONEY TO PAY.

 

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tags:  child support, don't want responsibility, family, jerk, kids without a father
 
1. myLot reputation of 77/100. myklj999 (7218)   4 years ago

Well, I can't say what I think about this because it wouldn't be very nice. I take an extremely low view of anyone who ignores or abandones their kids. Just because you have a new life doesn't make your responsibilities any less from my point of view.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

And you're absolutly right, his old life will follow him and it will catch up to him one day......


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Nice crown, by the way, I seemed to have misplaced mine.


myLot reputation of 77/100. myklj999 (7218)  4 years ago

I'm sure you'll find it again!thumbup

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2. myLot reputation of 80/100. jonesy123 (3256)   ranked 105 out of 377 in been an idiot   4 years ago

Wow, I can't believe there is another loser like that out there. MY BIL (same age as your brother btw) has three kids with three different women. I'm not sure about the child support situation, but he hardly ever works anyway. The first two he doesn't ever see (nor can we, the moms moved away and don't want contact with anybody), the last he had married the mom but now they are divorced. And no, I would never give him money. If indeed he would be behind on child support and we could afford to help out, the money would go to the child or court directly. I would never hand my BIL money. I might as well just throw it in the garbage, lol.

I'm sorry you had/have to experience this with your brother. I'm sure in a way it's heartbreaking, not just for the kids but for you. I hope you guys at least get to see the kids. Anyhow, I suppose your money went into financing the move. That could get you into trouble, too, as an accessory. In essence you helped him 'evade the law'. Just moving to New Mexico from Arizona, well the long arm of the law still can reach him. And they will come after him. He is getting himself into deeper trouble. And that has consequences for the new wife and three small kids. I'm amazed the new wife goes along with this. If she is looking out for the welfare of her own kids, this is the wrong way to go about it.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

I can't believe that people actually do this to their precious children, completly abondoning them without the intentions of seeing them anymore. Now I'm freaking out because of what you said, I funded his move, I should have paid the court directly, I feel really stupid now.


myLot reputation of 80/100. jonesy123 (3256)   ranked 105 out of 377 in been an idiot  4 years ago

Don't feel stupid. Happened to us, too, with another family member (not BIL) on my hubby's side. Claimed that they had trouble paying the bills, and then he disappeared leaving a mess behind for the family to deal with. We essentially provided the funds for the disappearance act, lol. This was years ago and he since has resurfaced and ruefully repaid us more than he ever should have and made up with the family. But not everybody does that. We, too, learned our lesson the hard way. Live and learn!


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Wow, he actually paid you back years later? That's really good. You know I don't expect to ever get paid back by my brother, I know he is not good for it, if he wouldn't pay something so important as his childrens supportive monies then why the hell would he ever pay me. You are right, live and learn......

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. dizzblnd (1124)   ranked 34 out of 377 in been an idiot   4 years ago

I am sorry to hear that. What a shame for ALL of the children invovled. It is just a shame that he can't be responsible. I am not in any way excusing his behavior, there is no excuse. But I wonder if maybe it is a retaliation of his childhood, being the oldest he had to always be the responsible one? MAybe he is just tired of being responsible. Again I am not excusing his behavior, just trying to mdelve into his phsyce based on what you have told us.


My brother, is 38, he doesn't have his sh!t together either. There are only 2 of us though, I am the baby. He was NEVER responsible, so that might just blow my theory about yours right out the window. My brother has DUI after DUI.. has 2 jobs, but no car. I don't know.. maybe its a male thing shocked whistle

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myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

You had a good theory going but, really, he has never been the responsible type, the second oldest brother in my family is the one who always took responsibility and took care of all of us, he cooked for us, and cleaned the house and gave us each our own list of daily chores, my mother was sick a lot growing up so my second oldest brother was like a stand in and the deadbeat one just sat on his azz and played video games all day.

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. gemini_rose (10252)   ranked 118 out of 377 in been an idiot   4 years ago

If he was young then I think it would be easier to understand why he would do that, but not at that age! I would be so mad that he had taken money from me and then not used it for the purpose it was intended, that is a lot of money too.

I do not understand why people seem to have relationships, end up with children and then just do not want to face up to their responsibilities, it is mad.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Yes I know, at his age you would think he would have it all together. And it was a lot of money to lose, I know he'll never pay me back but I've learned my hard lesson now.

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. katsmeow1213 (7758)   4 years ago

This sounds so much like my oldest son's father. I was very young and stupid, and this man just didn't really care. He knocked me up, then tried to convince me to give the child up for adoption. Even when my son was 5 years old (this is when I finally began going after him for child support) he still tried to persuade me to give the child up for adoption! At 5 years old!! OMG Well it was only because he didn't want to go through the court to pay child support. He tried at one point to work something out so we wouldn't have to go through the court. I'm so glad I wasn't that stupid anymore.
Well he gave the judge some sob story about how he just isn't making enough money anymore, yada yada. He does have other kids by other women, by my count he has 10 kids by 7 women, and most of them are scattered all over the country. He lives in Florida and I'm in NY. He has never met my son. He's got 5 kids here in NY, and he's only ever met 2 of them. Needless to say I knew none of this when I hooked up with him. It sickens me now to think of it.

I must say he is half way decent at paying his child support. He falls behind every winter, but makes double payments in the summer to catch up and get ahead a bit. The only problem is I can't count on the child support. I never know when I'm going to get it, and never know how much it will be. Sometimes it's a double payment, sometimes it's a half a payment. Sometimes it will come weekly or bi weekly, and sometimes it won't come at all.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Wow, that dude's got a lot of kids! It sucks that he's so wishy washy with your payments, I'm sorry about that. You know I live in Florida now, just give me his address and I'll go kick his a$$ for you!


myLot reputation of 97/100. katsmeow1213 (7758)  4 years ago

LOL, I wish I could. I don't even have that much! He gave the courts his mother's address, because apparently he doesn't want his wife to know he cheated on her during those months he was in NY. Yeah... something else I didn't know about until AFTER the fact.
Grrrr... men!

Worst part is, I gave him an out too. The only reason I went after him for child support was to find him so he could sign adoption papers. I was just married and wanted my husband to adopt my son to become his legal father. Unfortunatly that process cost $1000 at the least. I told him if he gave me that money in one lump sum, he wouldn't have to worry about the child ever again, he'd no longer be the father. Well he couldn't come up with it, and I have bills to pay so haven't been able to save.

My son is now 11, he knows very little about his birth father (or sperm donor really). To him, my husband is his father. He knows the truth, but the man who's raising him is the one who matters most.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

What a story, I'm so glad that your husband is considered "daddy" in your little boy's eyes, sounds like you have a good man. Well since you have the sperm donors' mothers address give it to me and I'll kick Her A$$ for having him...LOL


myLot reputation of 97/100. katsmeow1213 (7758)  4 years ago

Aww, ya can't beat up on an old lady, although she really should have taught her son some morals.
I can't complain much. Without this idiot, I never would have had my son... which eventually led me down the path to meet my husband.

I do have a wonderful husband, and he is a good dad. We have 5 kids total now, and he works very hard to support us so I can stay home and take care of them. Not all men are idiots. My husband is proof of that.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Sounds like you have a wonderful family. I aggree that not all men are idiots, I don't think that way at all, it's just this one in particular ya know and a few others. I too have an amazing husband who takes care of us, I'm blessed to have him in my life. We have two kids, a 7 year old girl and a 7 month old boy, they are my pride and joy and I just can't see how someone wouldn't make an effort to see their little children, I couldn't live one day without them.


myLot reputation of 97/100. katsmeow1213 (7758)  4 years ago

I guess in this day in age it's just accepted for some men not to see their children that often. What really gets me is moms who abandon their kids... and I don't mean at birth. I mean a mom who's been raising her child for sometime and then just up and leaves them. I can never understand that!


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

That is something that I will never understand either.

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6. myLot reputation of 92/100. shana123 (1834)   4 years ago

I really wonder how 3 women have been so much to marry your brother im sorry to say this.. every women will think about the future and they should know where would they be while marrying a man.. And now the ex of your brother is really anther stupid go behind him for getting child support as she knows there no way to get from him she has search for another option.. now she had to get to arizona and search and get him prisoned?
What did your hubby tell while heard about that infact he was such nice man that he offered to say yes to you when you asked to help you bro's child..
Anyways i get my temper rised to see such man who cant support their childeren !!!


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Oh I'm feeling you, I am so angry too about this situation. My hubby, of course, thinks my brother is a jackazz but he is very forgiving and just hopes the best comes out of this situation. I know my brothers previous wives were good people, he is the one who screwed up both times, I hate to say about my own flesh and blood but he's not a good person I think.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   4 years ago

Yea, we learned this one the hard way too. Family 'borrowing' money, I mean. We no longer give them the money, although we might take care of the situation depending on the circustances. We just found out my mil has been borrowing money to pay her elec bill each month....before any of you say, "aaahhhh too bad", think again. This lady has the common sense of a housefly and still insists on 'putting on airs'. Her pride will not let her be honest with her family even though she is not fooling a single one of us. I will like to see her face when she finally realizes that we have known all along what a faker she is. But I digress, my man took care of the elec bill but he did it dealing directly with the power company and not giving her any money.

We don't dole out the cash anymore as we have been burned, like you were, a few too many times. People like this seem to never learn. Mil is pushin 70!doh


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Like you said "take care of the situation depending on the circumstances" that is exactly what we did, otherwise I do not loan money either, it was for an excellent reason but it's too bad that the monies were not used for that purpose. Sorry that your MIL is like that too, I could say I hope she wises up, but if the lady's already pushing 70 she's not going to change now, ya know.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  4 years ago

Yip, you're so hoping to help and then this happens. It s*cks! No, she won't grow up, we have stopped holding our breath. The bad thing is that she thinks that lieing is ok as long as it's to her benefit. LOL! oh well.

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8. myLot reputation of 33/100. barrudaki (1327)   ranked 117 out of 377 in been an idiot   4 years ago

Don't beat yourself up or feel guilty about his actions. You trusted him enough to do the right thing, it was up to him to do it, his actions should not reflect on you or your character. I am surprised he has a wife and she moved with him. What does she think he will do if they split? I hope she has a plan for herself because he will just run away.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

You're right, I feel bad for anyone who marries my brother, I'm sure she doesn't feel very secure in the marriage, look what he has done to two others I mean she can't be that blind.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. jands1 (474)   4 years ago

Yikes heatherfeather80, you really have some of the worst luck at times.

Well, here I go, and I will try to *not* write an essay. :D

First of all, you and your DH's heart was in the right place. Kudos for you two. Don't even for a minute regret or think differently. Intent is where it matters in most situation. Plus you learned a lesson: Anything over $50 you pay directly to the source of the debt AND have a quick little document drawn up on your computer, print it out, that is a LOAN paper. :D

Second, we have to love our family. No one said we have to like them, nor have anything to do with them. I myself took years to figure this one out. Often people figure out what jerks they were when they are much much older, and hopefully, you haven't hardened your heart by then. :)

Lastly, you now have a kinda moral issue to face. One I do not at all envy you for. You have to choose between your brother and what is not only "right" but also aids a child: You must decide if you will contact the authorities in both the area the warrent is issued at to notify them of his new address and the DA's office where he is at currently so they may also help with the enforcement. Though this will only speed up the process of your brother's inevitable situation.

My own biological father did kinda the same thing. Except he told his new family that he never had any kids nor was married before. I am pleased to say that my step-father is all the father I will ever need and has been since I was 11 years old.

I really hate to pass judgment on a person that I have never met, with only hearing one side of the argument. However, I am biased in this issue being both a single mother AND as a child my own biological father refused to pay child support. Plus, I don't like to see friends (that would be you silly beans) used and hurting both emotionally and financially. Therefore, I have to say, your brother is exactly as you say, a loser. He loses more than he can possibly fathom. He lost your respect, possibly your friendship, lost his children, etc. What a price to pay for selfishness.....

And I apologize as I wrote an essay. :(


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

No don't appoligize for your essay, if I were a teacher I would give you an A+ and let you choose the sticker of your choice from the "special box" LOL, anyway you are right, but about turning him in? Gosh I just don't know if I can do that, I know it is the right thing to do in order for him to wise up and take responsibilities for his actions but, but, but, ok I really don't have an excuse right now, I'll think of one later, J/K. I'm glad you said, we have to love our family and it doesn't mean we have to like them, that's how I feel right now.


myLot reputation of 97/100. jands1 (474)  4 years ago

Aww heatherfeather80. Do not worry. You don't have to make that decision just yet. Just know it is danging there. Maybe set a date such as "A month from tomorrow" or something.

To conclude the love family, don't have to like them...this means you do not have to have negative family members in your life. Perhaps he needs to go to a "Xmas Card" relationship for now? Until things settle, his betrayal of you and your husband has waned a bit?


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

lol Right now, he's on a different list the X-mas list.....


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

*than*


myLot reputation of 97/100. jands1 (474)  4 years ago

Ooh are you going to send him a stocking full of coal? :D


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

lolI don't have the money to send coal!

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10. myLot reputation of 88/100. Elixiress (3020)   ranked 368 out of 377 in been an idiot   4 years ago

I am sorry to say that, but I hope that they catch him. There was no reason for him to run, you had given him the money to pay off the debt, so it wasn't as though he was having to run away as he didn't have the money and he was going to go to jail for not paying, because if he paid with the money you gave him then he would not go to jail.

Maybe when he next gets in contact, you give him lots of condoms rather than money? Might be of more use and avoid future problems.


myLot reputation of 91/100. heatherfeather80 (832)  4 years ago

Don't be sorry, I hope they catch the little jerk too, he deserves it, man that sounds aweful but dammit, he needs to wise up and face his problems ya know.

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