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myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion1 year ago

I saw on the news last night that a church in Sydney has been threatened with being kicked out of the catholic faith if they do not stop two practices. One was allowing women to participate in giving the service. Other Christian churches allow women to be priests but they have a problem with women bishops as that gives women authority over males.

The other practice was allowing homosexuals to take communion. The members of the congregation said that it was not right to condemn these people to spiritual exile just because homosexuality is considered wrong. They are still believers and need spiritual support.

I do not think they are threatening the congregation with excommunication but more a case of removing the whole church. Then the members of that church would have to go to a another catholic church to practice their faith.

Do you think it is time the catholic church became more tolerant? Are they not being hypocritical condemning homosexuals while some of their priests have been found guilty of sex crimes?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 67/100. Adoniah (2675)   ranked 701 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

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myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

I quite agree with you. It is time that they dropped their patriarchal attitudes about women and allowed them to practice their faith to the full if they choose to. Women have proven that they are able to perform at the highest level and it is time the church stopped being so sexist.

As for their attacks on homosexuals it is totally wrong to condemn someone for their sexuality. People are born with this sexuality so how can it possibly be against God's desire. Since they believe we are all made in God's image and these people are born with this sexuality then God must approve.

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2. myLot reputation of 68/100. daffodil1949 (1319)   ranked 1,465 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

I never knew that the church knows the meaning of the word tolerance. Your post show that the church has tolarence but it should have more. Good! nice to know it.


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

Some members of the church have tolerance but the main body is trying to stamp it out. It will be interesting to see if the minority can maintain their beliefs and be allowed to follow them without being punished.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. redkathy (1787)   ranked 1,155 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

The Roman Catholic church follows it's doctrine. The Bible does make reference to selecting men as overseers. I have no problem with following what the Bible says and don't take offense to them reserving positions for men. As for not giving the sacraments to homosexuals, I have to agree with the congregation. I'm a hate the sin, not the sinner person. I think only God has the right to judge.


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

There are a lot of books in the bible and evidence that Jesus allowed men and women to practice and preach. Many of the books in the bible were written by male priests after Jesus died and follow the patriachal attitude towards women that their role in life is simply to bear children and be subservient to men. The catholics tell men to honor their mother but not their wife. This causes major problems.

I am a woman. I cannot and will not accept that this is my only purpose in being alive. I cannot accept that a woman who is no longer a virgin is nothing but scum. This is just men wanting to rule the world and has nothing to do with God at all. I grew up in a patriarchal household and I rebelled against it. I have a mind, I have ideas I have a right to express them. I have no interest in a religion that tells me I am a second class person just because I am female.

I do not accept that people are born in sin. I think the invention of sin was one of the worst things that religion ever did to people, it has left them full of guilt because they were born with a different sexual orientation or because they were born women.


myLot reputation of 95/100. redkathy (1787)   ranked 1,155 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

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4. myLot reputation of 33/100. urbandekay (4297)   ranked 1,881 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

I don't see it as a matter of tolerance but of authenticity. All are sinners there is no need to exclude anyone.

all the best urban


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

I think it is about people following their hearts and not blindly following church dogma. I have no idea what will happen to the church if their bosses decide to act on their threat.

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5. myLot reputation of 62/100. property (220)   ranked 4,849 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

i am not at all surprised by this. The Catholic church has historically been hypocritical and intolerant. There are plenty of other faiths, both christian and not, that are accepting of ALL people. If women want to devote thier lives to religion they are welcome elsewhere. If homosexuals want to practice faith...good for them! There are plenty of other churches to do so in. i personally don't understand why anyone would want to go to a church that would persecute their way of life. If the Catholic church noticed a sharp drop in numbers maybe it would wake up. Maybe not. Frankly they are not reinstating the inquisition quite yet... so i'm counting my blessings.


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

I agree with you but the Catholic church still has a lot of political influence and power. I have met Catholics who would doubt their own minds if the pope told them to. I met a girl once who was a mathematician but she said that if the pope told her that 2 and 2 did not equal 4 she would believe him because he was the pope even though she knows that this would be believing a lie.

To me this says that they are brainwashed. I knew a woman once who lost her faith when she found out the priest had lied to her.

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6. myLot reputation of 15/100. islander7 (3888)   ranked 7,627 out of 9,718 in religion   1 year ago

Religion is always divisive. This is just another example.
When faith is built on sand this will always happen time and time again
as it has very little true fundamental support.


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3034)   ranked 294 out of 9,718 in religion  1 year ago

I agree with you. I think this is an example of people following their hearts and being condemned for it. I do not know what will happen to the church or the priests who work there.

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