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myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs 4 years ago

I am sure that many dog lovers and none dog lovers have heard of Pavlov and how he had done the experiment with bell ringing and dogs and how he got them to drool on command..(though why you want a dog to drool on command is anyones guess).

If you haven't, here is some info on this guy and his experiment: http://nobelprize.org/edu...

Now I don't want my dog to drool on command, but wondered if I could get her to come to me on demand. So, I started with a bell and rang it every time I fed her and I gave her treats for when I rang it between meals..

After just a couple of days, when Zoe was in the otehr room, I rang the bell and she came to me..happy

But to make sure that it will work when she is distracted is my goal..Because though she stays in our own yard, we have a neighbor dog that isn't very smart and will bark at us, and then of course Zoe chases her..

We also have another neighbors dog who comes over and visits us..One time this dog came over, I waited until both dogs were in the other room and I rang the bell and Zoe came to me again..w00t (she would never come to me if the other dog was in the kitchen)

Now, in order to work this for outside, I have to get a dog whistle and train her with that..

So, my husband now calls Zoe, Pavlov's dog whenever she comes to me..

I am so excited because the last dog we had was deaf and she rarely got to run around because of it..

 

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1. myLot reputation of 89/100. thelastwolf113 (2987)   4 years ago

I learned that in grade school, conditioned responses. Cool that you bring it up, I haven't really thought about it in years.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Would you consider training your dog to come to you usinf this method? I would like to get my dog to, because though she isn't always allowed to run free, we do occasionally and only when my husband or I are supervising..This is because my 6 y/o and the dog both need this activity of running around together to relase their energy and have fun..But like I said, the one neighbors dog, because she doesn't like my dog will bark and to my dog, that is an invite to come over and chase her instead..


myLot reputation of 89/100. thelastwolf113 (2987)  4 years ago

In a way we already do. By training them with rewards, it's a conditioned response.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Yes, we reward our dog too, either with praise or a treat..But for calling her back, I can't stand outside and yell, which is why we are going to get a dog whistle..thumbup

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2. myLot reputation of 84/100. hoping4amiracle (178)   ranked 3,028 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I am glad that working for you and your dog and I bet you can train your dog to do a few other things with the bell if you wanted too. I am like you and I don't want my dog to drool on command but I would like mine to maybe sit on command and maybe I will try this.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Maybe you ought to get my daughter to train your dog..Somehow she has trained not only our dog, but the neighbors dog to sit when she stares at them..lol

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. worldwise1 (6189)   ranked 27 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

That's a great story, carmelanirel. Most dogs are very intelligent and that is why they can be trained so easily. I don't think you will have any trouble getting Zoe to respond to the whistle. Good luck!


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

I had called the tractor supply company store and they said they have dog whistles, so if not today, then sometime this week we will be picking one up..

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. thedaddym (1616)   ranked 605 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

We used to have a dog cookie jar that barked when you lifted the head. Everytime my dog would hear that she would come running, my mother in law had one also and since she loved our dog so much we would bring her over there a lot. My dog, her dog and even the cat would come running when you lifted that lid. It was wonderful, and the fact that even the cat learned to come was awesome.thumbup


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

If my daughters cat wasn't so darn picky, she probably would come too..rolleyes

I know what kind of cookie jar you are talking about and you are right, if the dog/cat knew that every time the jar would "bark" they would get a treat, they would come running..

I am going to expand my calling technique to using a dog whistle so I can call her back when I can't yell for her..

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5. myLot reputation of 70/100. p3halliwel2005 (2482)   ranked 1,834 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

Thats quite nice. Your dog seems to be the intelligent kind. I have never heard of this pavlov but the way you put it seems like a good trainor as well, like you. I have a cat though and he is just a stray cat. He learned to poo and pee in the bathroom without us teaching him. He also watches tv with us he sits in the armchair whenever the tv is on. He lies down at the bottom part of the bed because he enjoys the fan on his fur. His name is Shadow and whenever we call him by his name he always come. And this is a cat that never wanders off outside the house. He just stays inside. I guess some animals are just that good at things.happy


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

I wish my daughters cat was like that.She has nothing to do with us unless she is cold and hungry..And she doesn't like kitty treats, just her food, because every time we get kitty treats, I end up giving them to the dog because her cat is too picky..

And yes, I have been told that shepherds are smart, and she is, but there are times I wonder, like when her bonks her head on the corner of the wall or desk for the upteenth time in a day...lol


myLot reputation of 70/100. p3halliwel2005 (2482)   ranked 1,834 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

lol..maybe there's something wrong with his eyes..He might need glasses..hehe..lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

No, she is a white german shepherd puppy and like all puppies, she doesn't have her balance yet..

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 254 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

It's important to train a dog to come when you call. I personally like coming on command better. What if you don't have a bell handy or a whistle? Also there was some type of recall on the whistles that were being used and no one seems to know why (like did they not work? Or did they hurt the dog's ears?).

We had a dog's fur catch on fire, he tried to run into our dry field and forest (we had a drought that year). It could have been horrible. But we yelled stop and lay down. He did. We rolled him and hit the fire out. Who knows where a bell or whistle would have been right then. Or clickers. Those are really popular, too. But I still prefer commands. Too many people forget the clicker in the stores.


myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 254 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Luckily when he obeyed, there was a tarmack driveway still left, but he was going to go to the field. He could have died a horrible death. 9 1/2 acres of ours plus three other neighbors had fields and woods surrounding us. 40 acres in all could have gone up.


myLot reputation of 96/100. carmelanirel (12195)   ranked 14 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Oh wow, how scary for you..I could work on her stopping on command I guess, but I wanted to ues a whistle because once she gets into the neighbors yard, there is so much noise, I can't yell that far. The whistle would be worn around the neck of whoever is taking her out, which is why I wanted to use a whistle, because we can't wear a bell, like Bessy does...lol

My daughters friend had mentioned about a whistle hurting a dogs ears, but it won't be like we are going to blow it full force in her face for a long period of time..Just a short blow when she is too far away for us to yell at her..


So if you have any ideas for me to train her to stop on command, I am willing to try..But I have to tell you, once she sees something she wants, it is like any training goes out the window, except I found using the bell, she responds to that..


myLot reputation of 99/100. writersedge (7230)   ranked 254 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Yeah, I forget about noise, with the exception of when my neighbors use ATVs and snowmobiles, we have serious quiet here.

I'd either search online or buy a book if I was training a dog. PetSmart has classes, but they aren't cheap. Take care

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