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myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347) 4 years ago

I found this article using stumble. This is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard of. Ugh I absolutely hate how this country is going.
http://infowars.com/artic... link is not for making moneyUgh it pisses me off how this country is going.


Busted for wearing a peace T-shirt; has this country gone completely insane?Mike Ferner| July 5 2006
Friday afternoon, drinking a cup of coffee while sitting in the Jesse Brown V.A. Medical Center on Chicago's south side, a Veterans Administration cop walked up to me and said, "Okay, you've had your 15 minutes, it's time to go.""Huh?" I asked intelligently, not quite sure what he was talking about."You can't be in here protesting," Officer Adkins said, pointing to my Veterans For Peace shirt."Well, I'm not protesting, I'm having a cup of coffee," I returned, thinking that logic would convince Adkins to go back to his earlier duties of guarding against serious terrorists.
Flipping his badge open, he said, "No, not with that shirt. You're protesting and you have to go."Beginning to get his drift, I said firmly, "Not before I finish my coffee."He insisted that I leave, but still not quite believing my ears, I tried one more approach to reason."Hey, listen. I'm a veteran. This is a V.A. facility. I'm sitting here not talking to anybody, having a cup of coffee. I'm not protesting and you can't kick me out.""You'll either go or we'll arrest you," Adkins threatened."Well, you'll just have to arrest me," I said, wondering what strange land I was now living in.
You know the rest. Handcuffed, led away to the facility's security office, past people with surprised looks on their faces, read my rights, searched, and written up.
The officer who did the formalities, Eric Ousley, was professional in his duties. When I asked him if he was a vet, it turned out he had been a hospital corpsman in the Navy. We exchanged a couple sea stories. He uncuffed me early. And he allowed as to how he would only charge me with disorderly conduct, letting me go on charges of criminal trespass and weapons possession -- a pocket knife -- which he said would have to be destroyed (something I rather doubt since it was a nifty Swiss Army knife with not only a bottle opener, but a tweezers and a toothpick).
After informing me I could either pay the $275 fine on the citation or appear in court, Ousley escorted me off the premises, warning me if I returned with "that shirt" on, I'd be arrested and booked into jail.
I'm sure I could go back to officers Adkins' and Ousleys' fiefdom with a shirt that said, "Nuke all the hajis," or "Show us your tiits," or any number of truly obscene things and no one would care. Just so it's not "that shirt" again.
And just for the record? I'm not paying the fine. I'll see Adkins and Ousley and Dubya's Director of the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, if he wants to show up, in United States District Court on the appointed date. And if there's a Chicago area attorney who'd like to take the case, I'd really like to sue them -- from Dubya on down. I have to believe that this whole country has not yet gone insane, just the government. This kind of behavior can't be tolerated. It must be challenged.
I was at the Jesse Brown V.A. Medical Center because I'm participating in the Voices for Creative Nonviolence's 30-day, 320-mile "Walk for Justice," from Springfield to North Chicago, Illinois, to reclaim funding for the common good and away from war.
So how many other people think this is stupid?
Anybody think anything can be done to change how this country is going?
Does anyone think maybe just maybe, Obama might beable to make changes?
Lol firefox doesnt reconize Obama yet lol.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 69 out of 140 in usa   4 years ago

Wow!!!..Guess i better go and cover all my Peace T-shirts and flags and stickers and put some "I Love wars" slogans allover my truck and body.....Scary sad


myLot reputation of 99/100. lilaclady (22766)  4 years ago

Yes it is very scary...


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yeah it is scary, though no way am I going to change for them.

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. lilaclady (22766)   4 years ago

OMG that is terrible, above all countries like America and Australia and Brittain must maintain one thing above all and that is freedom of speach because this is what a lot od people have died to give us and it is one thing that a lot of other countries don't have and that is part of the reason they are supressed....


myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 69 out of 140 in usa  4 years ago

Makes one wonder what would have happened if there was more people with him?..A Gang?..They say if more than 3 people are together they can say that and arrest you for gang activity???


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yep your right and it is being taken away and most people arnt doing anything to fight it at all.


Yeah they probably would have rose.


myLot reputation of 94/100. sharra1 (3432)  4 years ago

That sounds really scary. I cannot understand what is happening to this world it is like we are going backwards not forwards as we should be. Maybe it comes from having right wing governments in power for too long.


myLot reputation of 100/100. arkaf61 (5809)  4 years ago

Rosekitty that used to happen in my country when I was young. Not for gang activity but in fear of conspiracy against the government.
Of course then we were living under a dictatorship and people could not do many of the things that are allowed in free countries. Makes one think huh?

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3. myLot reputation of 80/100. kitttenskysong (416)   ranked 39 out of 140 in usa   4 years ago

oh my stars and garters its the sixty's all over again. You'd think they would have better things to do than to harrass someone because of a t-shirt! That's as bad as the story I once read bout the kid who got arrested because he was showing an inch of underwear over his pants.

what the freak is this the clothes police!


myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 69 out of 140 in usa  4 years ago

Love the stars and garters!!!!


myLot reputation of 80/100. kitttenskysong (416)   ranked 39 out of 140 in usa  4 years ago

thanks,m it seemed appropriate.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Stars and garters? God that is so stupid, if someone is sagging, I still dont get why that is popular, and people were doing it when I was in high school, thats one thing and make them pull those damn pants up, but an inch? How stupid.

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. patriciaqualls (4590)   4 years ago

That is just terrible I cant believe how this world is ending up!!


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yeah I know.


myLot reputation of 96/100. patriciaqualls (4590)  4 years ago

I am worried about having peace sighns on my car now. That is really scary.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. Transdisc (18434)   4 years ago

This is insane and reading about it makes my blood boil.
Do you know if this fella' has found legal representation? I certainly hope so. This is so crazy and so scary. I am incensed!I suspect that I'll have to walk around showing my t1ts instead of wearing anything controversial from here on out.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

By all means show your tiits I wont complain hehehehe :D Yeah I know it pissed me off too, I dont know if he has found legal representation or not, found that thru stumble and didnt see anything else.

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6. myLot reputation of 86/100. chameleonsdream (808)   ranked 43 out of 140 in usa   4 years ago

First, a side note - the incident in the article happened 2 1/2 years ago. That doesn't change what happened and how disturbing it is in the least. The idea that you can be arrested for wearing an article of clothing with a group's signature logo on it is totally outrageous. I'm interested in finding out if Mike Ferner got any justice on his court date. I sure do hope that a judge read someone the riot act.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yeah I know, I would love to find out more about what had happened to him too, was just looking on google and I cant find anything else about him other then that, and that he wrote a book in 2006 also.

Found this on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ferner

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 133 out of 140 in usa   4 years ago

that is freaking crazy!! if i was him i would be going to the news and etc to make fools out of them.. i have been part of peace protests so i would be pissed if i got into trouble while NOT doing one!! lol


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yeah it is crazy. Lol yeah I would be pissed off too. I have no clue what happened, this happened in 2006 and Ive looked for further information, ive found that he wrote a book but nothing else. Hell probably being censored.

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8. myLot reputation of 88/100. _sketch_ (3447)   4 years ago

Well I'd say it's unbelievable, but sadly I'd be lying. This kind of thing is happening all the time. I am so sick of it. I myself have fallen victim to this sort of thing as well. (dont want to get into any specifics) Makes me so mad, but sad more than anything. Free speech my a**! I'm glad that he chose to fight it and go to court instead of paying the fine. you're right. Firefox does't recognize obama. lol. funny.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

That really sucks you have had it happen to you too. Yeah makes me sad too, we fought in the past for our freedom to have freedom of speech and now its being taken away.


myLot reputation of 88/100. _sketch_ (3447)  4 years ago

The most important thing is that we just keep on fighting. Never let them take our freedom.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Damn right.

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9. myLot reputation of 77/100. myklj999 (7218)   4 years ago

Damn peace freaks anyway. Don't you people understand this country is founded on WAR?angry



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Go figure. A veteran drinking coffee at the VA gets arrested for "demonstrating" while wearing a "veterans for peace" t-shirt.


WTF?confused


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Oh no, I forgot to follow the government line and say how bad this was of him to do, my brainwashing has been removed, uh oh. They will be after me, im not a good citizen anymore. Damn 1984 lol.


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10. myLot reputation of 94/100. thebohemianheart (2780)   4 years ago

I think it is totally ridiculous that someone can be arrested, or even charged with disturbing the peace because of wearing a peace shirt! What, in reality, did this man do wrong? Don't we still have freedom of speech?
I think things can be changed, but it didn't get this way over night, and correcting the problem isn't going to happen over night, either.
As for Obama, I think anything is possible. We will just have to wait and see if he does make the changes that need to be made.


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yep it is ridiculous, he did nothing wrong at all, just sitting there drinking coffee with his shirt on. I bet it wasnt the guard that wanted him to leave in the first place, probably someone else.


myLot reputation of 83/100. ClassyCat (874)   ranked 88 out of 140 in usa  4 years ago

angry Yup, it is stupid for sure, but there is more of this
kind of stuff being worked on behind the scenes.

I've been saying this for months, and folks think I'm
crazy - wait and see.

People got what they wanted in the election - now watch
what happens in the next couple of years, where 'freedom'
of speech is concerned. I never have figured out how laws
can be passed or enacted, that only give that right
to "certain" people or groups.

Just remember - when one group is 'shut down' - - it can offset the balance in society. It's good for us to be able to dialogue with different view points - both liberal and conservative. That's what America has been about for many
years - - but sorry to say, that IS going to change, unless
people who differ stand together as Americans, for the
right of free speech. 'nuff said

On the poor gentleman that wore the T-shirt, and was
arrested - you can contact him at an address I found at>

http://columbus.indymedia.org/node/443

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