Could you survive hard times.  | | If our government stays on the same path they are on now I am afraid we are in for some hard times. Hoover tried this bail out stuff at the beginning of the last depression and it didn't work. The only thing that brought us out of the depression in the 30's is WWII and some government sponsored work programs.
If we do fall on hard times will you know how to survive. Everyone needs to give this some serious thought.I lived through the 1940's and I know what hard times are. My family made it pretty good. Dad was a farmer but some people kept on at him until he went to work for the WPA which was one of the government word programs. Dad knew how to cut rock out of a formation and they found out about. He cut rock for about 5 years to build a bunch of new school houses in Eastern Oklahoma. Most of then are still standing and still used. Dad probably made a good bit more money during the depression than he did before and after. This wasn't the case with most of the poor people.
We had one thing going for us back then we don't now. Most families were producing most of what they consumed. There was still a little farm work families could get helping the farmers harvest their crops. Picking beans and peas, cutting the spinach and other greens, picking strawberries and things like that. This was mostly in spring but during the summer there wasn't mush of anything going on that would pay. In this part of the country we still raised a lot of cotton and it had to be picked by hand in the fall. There was also fall greens to be cut. People were not too good to do what ever they had to back then to make a few dollars.
We won't have this to make even a few dollars this time around. Most everything on the farms is dome by machines now. Mom and us kids working together always grew a big garden where we would have a lot of excess to can for winter. This kept something on the table. I hope it doesn't get too bad but if it does you will see a lot of people doing things they wouldn't do now. You can get on the internet and fins a lot of information that will help you survive.
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| | | | | | 1. sweetdesign (2193) | 1 year ago | I think I could make it. I lve on a shoestring budget anyway. I have lifeskills that a lot of people my age do not. I can can my own food, I can grow my own food. I crochet I can sew. We have quite a bit of food put up that we have canned. I will be starting some new seeds today too.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | Thanks for the nice post. That is great that you know how to do for yourself. A lot of people don't though and they are the ones that will have some very serious problems. Maybe enough of us old coots are still around that can help others. You know people are a lot more willing to get their hands dirty if it means eating and not eating.
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sweetdesign (2193) | 1 year ago | that is true. I am teaching my daughter (she is 18) how to do these things and let me tell you she can cook,bake,and can and none of her friends can do any of that. She also helps with the garden. I think it is essential for her to learn these skills. Tough times are ahead and so many of the people out there hve gotten away from being able to fend for themselves.
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| | 2. spalladino (9061) | 1 year ago | My husband and I have a secure safety net called the Veterans Administration. He is a 100% totally and permanently disabled vet and I don't see the government ever taking his benefits away. There are too many disabled vets in order for them to be able to get away with something like that. When we moved to Florida from Maryland the original plan was for me to not have to go to work so we purchased our properties according to that plan. We live in one home and rent out the other. We also have a budget that is according to my husband's income so the income I earned while I was working was extra. We used it to do some upgrading and to build our savings but then I was laid off so we're almost back to where we started...except for the unemployment benefits I receive. Since we originally planned to live on one income we should have no problem doing that for an extended period of time. In the meantime I am planning to use V.A. educational benefits to finish my degrees so that I can become more marketable should the need arise for me to go back to work.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | Well I know what you are saying but what would do if the government goes belly up? That could happen if the bottom falls out of everything. If people are not working and paying in taxes they won't have anything to pay us with.
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| | 3. Anomalie (1066) | 1 year ago | Hello Arkie,
I have no doubts about survival. I am one of the lucky ones who was brought up to knit and sew and cook and garden. I made most of my childrens' clothes when they were young and knitted most of their jumpers. I make all our meals from scratch because that's the way I was taught. If necessary I could produce three meals from one chicken.
There will be many who know the old ways and they will survive, but what about the ones who practically live on takeaway? What about the ones who are constantly buying new gadgets? What about the ones who have to wear the latest fashions? They have all been brought up in the world of consumerism. How will they survive?
We have no debts because my husband and I were taught that we must never owe money, and never to buy anything unless we could pay for it outright. For that I am truly grateful to our parents. Especially when I see the enormous debts some people are struggling to repay.
What happens when the credit runs out? I think it already has!
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | You are one of the lucky ones and I take my hat off to you. Most people just don't have the get up and go to do very much for themselves. I was raised the way you are. I didn't live in a house with electricity until I was about 15. I didn't live in a house with indoor plumbing until I went into the Army in 1962. I was raised on a farm and we learned to provide for ourselves at a very early age. We actually had a lot more security than we do now. No matter what happened we had food to eat, a roof over our heads, cloth to ware and more than enough work to keep us busy. Actually it was a pretty good life. It was a lot of hard work but it built something into our family that you just don't see these days.
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| | 4. eeyore39 (3181) | 1 year ago | Glad to see you back my friend. You are so right. You mentioned things that could be done by hand on farms etc. The problem is that we think we are to good to pick crops and cotton and the like. That is why the illegals come into our country. They are willing to do the work that we Americans will not do. When things get tough enough and enough people loose their good paying jobs. There will have to be some hard decisions being made. Either accept and do work that you might not like but that puts food on the table, or let you and your family starve to death. Brought back old memories cause I picked those veggies on the farms when I was young. Didn't get paid a lot for sure but got some nice food also.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | If the farmers can't gather their crops with a machine in this country now they can't grow them. Us kids would work for other farmers when we could and make money to buy our school cloths. No more than we had to buy we could get through a whole winter on about $250. 4 of us six kids were still at home and we all worked and pitched our money into the pot. If my family now didn't buy any more than my parents did we would have money running out our ears. Mom thought it was a sin to buy a loaf of light bread. It was biscuits for breakfast and corn bread for dinner and supper. People can still live that way if they have to. Who knows we might be happier than we are now.
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| | 5. Ithink (1489) | 1 year ago | I think things could get worse instead of better too. You just never know what the future holds. We live on a budget now and so shortage of money wouldnt be a big thing. We also can and freeze vegetables, husband hunts and we also fish. I cook from scratch as that is cheaper, make my own sauces for foods, I sew, crochet and other things. We also go into the fields and glean when the local farmers are done, yes we are not above getting out hands dirty.
I do know that things will be even tougher if things get worse but I do think we will make it.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | I think a lot would make it. At least the ones that are out where they can grow a little food. Yes we used to scrap the fields too when the farmers were finished gathering their crops. A little would always be missed. My brother and I would scrap pop corn and lay up a winters supply. Sure was good with about a foot of snow on the ground. We also picked up pecans to last us all winter. They were the little native pecans but they really had a good flavor. I don't know if maybe I wouldn't enjoy living like that again. It was a very simple life and you didn't need to get in a hurry. I know I would enjoy it if I was a few years younger. You have to take into consideration too the real American people are made out of some pretty good stuff. We've proven that many times before. We might be put down but we won't stay down long.
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| | 6. Erin88 (282) | 1 year ago | I like to think we will be fine, but I do not know. I think it will depend on how expensive things get, and how my job goes. Right now I work part time at home and part time outside of the home. I do not make a lot, but I try not to buy things I don't need. I can't really afford to. If I continue living this way, I think we will be ok. I worry about other people though. I hope the economy gets better soon.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | If everything stays on track the way it has been going the past few months every thing will get cheaper. The more people that loose their jobs the less money being spent and the stiffer the competition gets in the market place. The retailers have to lower their prices to attract business. A lot of them will simply go out of business. They won't be able to get enough business to survive.
The cost of gasoline is a good example of this. The cost dropped on gasoline for the simple reason it went so high people had no choice but cut back on their driving. They tried to raise the price last week here and it went up to $1.69. It didn't work and the price this week is back down to $1.36. The producers are the ones that set the price on gasoline and they are in a good old fashioned gas war. Sales went down so much they had to lower prices trying to attract all the business they could get.
As this thing progresses you will see the same thing in other retail markets. Housing is already dropping like a rock and then it may be food and clothing. If we can just keep a little money to spend there will be some real bargains out there.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | I'm working on some things like that too. My hobby is recovering scrap gold from old electronic equipment and if I needed to I could make a living out of it. Gold is the one thing you can always sell during hard times. Might not amount to a lot but it would help feed me and keep a roof over my family. I could make it though becvause I have lived the hard life before and I learned how to survive it.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | Good for you. You hang onto that attitude and you'll make it. Between me and you I believe a little hard times would be good for a lot of people. Especially the ones that are convinced they have the world by the B**t.
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| | 9. kennyrose (4061) | 1 year ago | Only time will tell if any of us make it but for sure people that are willing to work can make it in good times and in the bad times. My husband is a foreman for a tree incorporation that covers 48 states,the company contacts from the power companies,they keep the trees out of the power lines year around,my husband has been with the company nine years,a few years ago Warren Buffet bought the power company in my state,even tho my husband has a very secure job nothing is 100% if he lost his job it would a hard road ahead. I nag my husband about his spending habits he has gotten better but he could do much better if he would make more of an effort. Seeing hard times coming a couple years ago I paid of all my credit cards and my husband paid off his pick-up two years early,we bought our home on a low 30 year fixed loan and I stock up on non-perishable foods every month as well my cleaning supplies to have at least 12 months of food and supplies in our home. We live on property enough to have a nice garden and live in a state where hunting deer,elk is plentiful year around,lot's of streams and rivers so people can fish for some food if need be. It seems people during the great depression was most very hard workers not having the easy life we enjoy today but the problem was the govenment hit rock bottom they cut people off of their benefits and the Army could not pay their soldiers,the people greatly suffered going from town to town looking for work to find when they got place to place there was no work, people had no money to pay someone to work,farmers had to kill their sheep and goats because they could not feed them and had no funds to ship the meat off some where. The people in the cities had it very hard they sleep in card board box's on the streets and out in fields any where they could find to rest. What the people did have back then was good hearts they helped each other and families stuck togeather making do with what they had and gave God thanks every day. If this present government hits rock bottom and cuts the people off that get government benefits and the states cut people off food stamps and so forth I expect we will see a great deal of blood shed in this country. In my opinion people need to be doing what some of these folks are saying in respond to this discussion depend on ones self and prepare just in case we do come face to face with something like the great depression of the 1930's,stock up on non-perishables foods and household cleaning,pay off the bills and make no new ones and hold on to each other tight.
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | I agree with you 100%. A lot of people don't think it's possible but I look for our government to fall this time if things get really bad. For one thing if we have a major crash it's the governments fault for not stepping in and stopping the big rip off. I believe we would have had a crash anyway but this thing they pulled with the housing market will make it a lot worse than what it would have been. The way I sit right now I am already on the bottom so I don't have a lot left to loose.I'm lucky in one way though. My house, such as it is, is paid for so I don't have to worry about a place to live. That will take a big load off.
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| | 10. msbawangada (515) | 1 year ago | There is no doubt these are tough times economically, globally and personally. But i think, handling it is up to us. Are you like the ostrich and hide your head in the sand and pretend like nothing is happening? Or are you like the rhinoceros charging through and knocking down anything in its way? I would like to be later;)
Think of it like this. You're at home and the power goes out and you're in the dark. You get a flashlight or some candles and now the darkness has been illuminated and you are able to see again. Yes, there are some shadows still lurking, but the moment you shine the light on them you can see what the shadows are. It's no different during "tough times". All one needs to do is turn the light on. Question your thoughts around the challenge you are having, face the fear head on, and reap the benefits as it dissipates in the light.
Robert Schuller's saying of, "Tough Times Don't Last but Tough People Do", holds much truth. How we handle those days, weeks, months or even years of what seem like the worst of the worst is what can make or break us. Whether you choose to be like the ostrich, rhinoceros or the eagle, "tough times" will be there and it is up to you how you will handle them. When they are over, will you still have your head in the sand? Will you be charging through so fast and furiously you won't even see that they are over? Or will you be soaring through and above them? I think choice is ours;)
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Arkie69 (1100) | 1 year ago | I agree our attitude will have a lot to do with us making it through or not and how well we do it. The ones that just sit down and don't try ti help themselves are the ones that will hurt most.
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