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konomi777 (55)   ranked 2,519 out of 35,530 in people1 year ago

My boyfriend is definitely a packrat. He has stuff from his childhood days, and he's 33. We moved into a new home and before we where living in a condo, and a lot of his stuff was in the storage downstairs. So I didn't know he had some of the stuff he has. But now a lot of the stuff is in our garage. He has an old atari system, old stereo equipment from what looks to be the 70's. What's even worse is his old clothing and shoes. I had brought it up to him before that he should just donate them and he said he would... That was 4 years ago. I was thinking of throwing away some smaller things a little at a time. I highly doubt he would notice... no that would be wrong...or would it?

How do you deal with a packrat?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

I think it would be very very wrong. My husband and I are both packrats, and I get very offended at people who tell us we should get rid of stuff. It's our stuff, not theirs. I don't tell others what they should buy, or what they should keep. Hanging a tag on someone such as 'packrat' does NOT make it wrong. Funny thing is, often those who are most critical are the ones who come around asking if they can borrow such and such.
Think about this carefully, you are not going to change him [temporarily maybe] and he will resent your discarding [and judgements] on his stuff. If you can't live with his stuff---------then you had better re-think your relationship. If you think he has to chose your OR his stuff---------well, lets just say I think that is very manipulative and WRONG.


konomi777 (55)   ranked 2,519 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

Sorry if I offended you. I would never just throw away anything I know is scentimental and valuable to him. And I never said it was wrong to be a packrat. I hold on to old stuff too. I agree with you, I would never judge a person by the stuff that they have and tell them what they should and shouldn't keep. I have been with him for 5 years. I lived with him for 4. I know how he is and I love him for who he is. I would never leave him because of his stuff. He's agreed to throw out or donate things he has. We just haven't gotten around to doing it. So I thought maybe I should just do a little at a time myself. Anyway, again sorry if I offended you.:)


myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

Awwwwwwww, I'm not really that offended. I just wanted to be really strong on judging what others keep. As for him agreeing to get rid of stuff and him actually doing it, well, as you already know that can take a long long time.
The thing is: with 'stuff' you can't tell by looking what is important or why. That raggedy old shirt might be the one he was wearing when he met you, or it might be the one he was wearing when 'his' team won the super-bowl. It may be that you can reach a compromise on where he keeps his stuff, how to pack it up, or something like that. Good luck.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

Yes it would be very wrong!
My husband and I are both packrats, and many people seem to feel it is their right to tell us what we can and should not keep. Funny thing is those are the people most likely to come and 'borrow' from our stuff.
Why would you think that you or anyone else should judge how much stuff anyone should keep. Just because stuff is old does not make it worthless. I have found that many many of the older good are much more long lasting and workable than the new.
You might be able to force your boyfriend to part with some of his stuff, but I would think that at a later time he is going to resent that you did. If you can't live with his 'stuff' then you need to rethink your relationship.


myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

Sorry, I didn't think the first response I wrote loaded.

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. LuvBr0wn13s (657)   ranked 759 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

No, you definitely cannot start throwing his things away. You will have to handle it in stages. First you can suggest a yard sale. Have him help you pull together some things for you guys to sell. The reason is to make some money off of some stuff that you guys don't use anyway. for things that he can't bear to relinquish to bargain hunters I suggest ebay. This way he can feel that he is getting rid of his finer "collectibles" to a discerning owner. Then there is the tax write off for donating things to The Salvation Army. With each new scheme everything should be getting examined and packed and organized until there are fewer and fewer things. I am married to a packrat.......I have a few more boxes to get through, but we have gone from a housefull of junk to a few boxes......a huge amount of progress.


myLot reputation of 97/100. LuvBr0wn13s (657)   ranked 759 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

I forgot to mention that I am not a packrat. I like moving around too much to be a packrat. I have sold just about everything I own more than once in my life. I have two small boxes of keepsakes.....they would fit in the trunk of a small car with room to spare. I just don't believe you have to have a bunch of stuff to remember the moments.

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4. myLot reputation of 79/100. vanonas (913)   ranked 2,367 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

I think I'm a packrat. I'm not that extreme though. I have a lot of things from when I was younger I just can't seem to let it go! I have been trying to get rid of things though by selling them on ebay. It's helping a little bit! You should start selling some of his things little by little on ebay! LOL

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. xbrendax (2147)   ranked 6,203 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

I am the complete opisite of a pacrat! I like to keep everything stark and clean and no stuff, junk whatever clotting things up! I live with my 76 year old mother who HAS to live in junk! My room is big, clean and airy while hers is so hot and stuffy with only a path to walk through! I think she has kept everything from her childhood, my childhood and her 3 marriages! When you enter her room all you see are stacks and stacks of crap. She said the other night that she was cleaning it up but after she got done, it looked worse then ever. She says she hates living like that but yet she won't let anyone help her. She has stacks and piles and boxes of stuff hear and there all over the house. I have moved them into out of the way places but the cats get into them and pee, yet she won't clean them up nor throw them away and she keeps trying to cover the kitchen counters with junk even though I told her that can NOT happen! I will NOT have a kitchen that looks like her bedroom! Every time she starts putting things on the counters, I take them and dump them into a box and put it in the living room or some other out of the way place. It is a never ending battle! Here is how we live: I live in my big bedroom up stairs and she lives in her piled up bedroom up stairs. We have a big nice clean kitchen down stairs, (thanks to me keeping it that way), and the living room and dinning room are almost empty except for a couple of chairs and a table and all her junk is piled up high all along the sides of the rooms as well as tons of it down the basement. We both have our TVs in our rooms and the cats (30) of them have the run of the whole house! I don't mind the cats, (we both love them) but I hate all her crap all over the place. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that we also have lots of empty boxes and play toys for the cats scattered here and there down stairs for them to sleep in and play with. What a way to live! Oh well, we are basicly happy except for all of her junk and I shouldn't complain because one never knows how long my mother will be with us. What I do know is I love her, I love the cats, and my spelling stinks! Ha ha ha!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

LOLOL, I love it, 30 cats.
My husband came from a long line of packrats, his mom died at the age of 93 this past summer. We brought home loads of her stuff. My husband is having a great time going through this stuff, it is bringing back memories for him that are priceless. Yeah, I know we have have memories without the 'stuff' but you don't know yet how much the sight of some ratty old thing you would throw away, will bring back lots of love and warmth. An example is a very old, paper-machie [I can't spell either] Santa, with most of the paint chipped off, it brought tears to my husbands eyes as he told me how that Santa had been under his family's christmas tree for as long as he could remember, in good money years it perched on top of the mounds of gifts, in lean years the Santa stood guard over the bowl of nuts and candy that were all the family could afford.

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. nixxi76 (925)   ranked 3,477 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

There's some reason he's hanging onto his belongings and not wanting to get rid of them. I do the same or I use to well.. maybe sometimes I still do it. I have a real tough time with throwing out things that I may want to use someday. I'm a procrastinator when it comes to doing that. When I met my hubby and he decided to come live with me, he did a clean up without my knowledge and when I went to look for something I had from years ago it was gone. I was so angry that he threw it out on me without asking me first!
On the other side of the fence, I can imagine how you feel with it though, you may not like his old junk but I would make sure you confirm it at least twice with him before you throw it out.
I've learned from my hubby who always said, if you don't use or see something in a year's time and feel nothing about it, then you know you can throw it out.

Have a nice day


myLot reputation of 98/100. wifeofharvey (906)   ranked 354 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

I would differ with your hubby on that! So would my daughter, to whom I just sent a package containing some crafting tools that I haven't used for years, along with some directions booklets, and her recently deceased Grandmother's sewing box, still containing some of Grandmother's threads, needles and thimbles.


myLot reputation of 96/100. nixxi76 (925)   ranked 3,477 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

I differ with a lot of things with my hubby believe me! It's been a very annoying problem that i've had to deal with over the years I've been with him. I try and deal with this by thinking about the good things weighting out the bad. I'm not sure where he got his nerve from but when we stayed with my mom there was this picture of my ex and I that she really loved and kept it in the dinning room. My hubby took it, ripped it up and threw it out in the garbage! Wow was I furious! so was my mom!
If the picture bothered hubby so much, he could've asked my mom to remove it then put one of us up there instead. My mom is quite a packrat as well. (I guess I inherited that from her?) Who knows.

Anyhow have a nice night

 
7. myLot reputation of 99/100. cutepenguin (3814)   ranked 8,234 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

We've actually both been working on getting rid of stuff, mostly because we feel like we've got way too much clutter.

Part of what inspired us to do this was looking at his parents' house. They have so much stuff that they have a couple of rooms that you cannot walk around in, and I cannot see what they need all of this for.

If he said he would donate it, why not just offer to do it for him?

 
8. butterflytears (67)   ranked 7,028 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

Yes, I am definetly a packrat. I find that I'm afraid to throw things away because I might regret it later. I have had times when I threw something that looked weird away but then maybe a week later I realized what it was and that I needed it. I really don't keep things for sentimental value though, I guess it depends on what it is and if it's a reasonable size. I think it would be wrong to throw his stuff away little by little because there might actually be something there that means alot to him. You could tell him that he has 2 weeks or something to start getting rid of stuff and or you will? Tell him that all the junk it driving you bananas.

 
9. RitaGreen (81)   1 year ago

Yes I am a pack rat! I would write more but I can barely get to my keyboard because of all the stuff on my desk!!!:D

 
10. myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14873)   ranked 4,416 out of 35,530 in people   1 year ago

hi konomi, if you want a huge rift between your boyfriend and yourself just when you moved into a house together so go ahead and throw his stuff away without him being informed.
I am sort of a packrat as well, partly against my own will. Let me tell you that my mother has a small house and I had a room there as a child and she did refuse to let the room grow with me, I recall that with 8 or 9 years old I still had baby and toddler toys in there and she refused of them being put into the attic.
I was 16 when I was allowed to discard stuff and that was not being allowed to put into trash but only in boxes for said attic and basement.
There were such weird incidents as me throwing something into the dustbin and my mom coming after me to get it out of there again. Just for your information .
When I moved into my first rented place with 30 years old against my mothers will we had some hefty discussions about me not taking with me all the junk that had accumulated in my room again. Only because it was from Aunt so and so and Uncle So and so.
So after some of these senseless discussions I gave in and took that stuff with me and put it into a closet in the tiny bedroom to get rid of it later. I didnt get rid of it but also out of guilt took some of it even into my new life now as a married woman and these things are sitting in the same closet I just mentioned which is in the basement. I am sure that the time will come to throw that stuff out but I doubt it will be happen in my mothers lifetime. I will wait till she is no more so I dont stand before her like a living bad conscience one day and then she may ask me what is happening and we get into more trouble as now she is in her higher 80s and you know how old people are seeing the past blurred in a way it has never been as we children remember things differently from them and its also a question of viewpoints here and there.
So I would suggest when the stuff is in the garage now it doesnt hurt anyone of yours and you can ask him for these things one at a time whether he really needs it or it can go.

You mention some old atari system and old stereo. Maybe you will laugh at me but I have an old record player which my mom who was divorced and also money was tight gave to me when I was I think 10 or 11. It was a big sacrifice for her and I keep it and intend to keep it out of REVERENCE for her who has done that for me, even though my husband has a perfectly fine stereo system. Maybe your BFs system is the first one he bought or got from his parents and is of sentimental value.
So dont mock.


MIMAOF2BRATS1 (3)  1 year ago

i am a packrat too and im a 55 year old woman i dont like to throw things out that are sentimental too me i even still have my year book from when i graduated high school


myLot reputation of 96/100. book1962 (14873)   ranked 4,416 out of 35,530 in people  1 year ago

lol MIMA and I am 46 now and my husband who is 47 is sort of pack rat with real junk he just tried to clear out that one drawer in his desk. lol lol lol.

 
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