Is Israel using hamas to justify genocide against palistinians?

The blockade isnt 100% effective, there are secret tunnels leading under it. Israel does have the right to defend itself against terrorists but not at the cost of civilian lives. In the first 4 days of 2009 almost 500 gazans have been reported dead from israely fire with over 50% being children. That is not acceptable at all.

I can't see how you can justify saying everyone is blaming israel when the corporate media is biased towards israel. Also reporters arent allowed into or near gaza.

Here are some links to partialy justify what i've been saying

http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/

http://nyc.indymedia.org/images/2008/12/102511.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809371.stm

I hope you understand how important I find this issue because i had to hand type these urls in.

Thank you very much for the info. That is what I was looking for. I prefer to have all of the info before making a decision. I do appreciate the seriousness of the situation. Thank you again for the information!

I agree, americans need to be educated on all the facts and not just half of the truth.

I would definitely agrees with you. Last night news really shows that Bush is under Olmert's spell. Just a phone call and the Bush nodded his head to them. One thing that I can see Bush has now power but the Israeli's has over powered him. Forgive me for saying this but he is just a puppet now.

Too much retaliation is over-kill. Teaching hate is wrong. It's two sides using propaganda to justify what is wrong. Israel and Palistine both have terrorists that are willing to suicide bomb the other. There can be no peacable solution until a cease fire. Why would the u.s. govt' stop the U.N. from calling for a sieze fire and encourage a ground invasion of gaza?

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/images/informationbrief.php?ID=192

The current prime minister of Israel Ehud Olmert has been quoted as say "the formula for a unilateral solution is to maximize the number of jews; to minimize the number of palastinians; not to withdraw to the 1967 border and not to divide jerusalem." Ehud also has said "The day will come when the two-state solution collapses and we face a south african-style struggle for equal voting rights. As soon as that happens, the state of israel is finished. The jewish orgnizations, which were our powerbase in america, will be the first to come out against us, because they will say they cannot support a state that does not support democracy and equal voting rights for all its citizens."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/ehud_olmert

http://www.sott.net/image/image/9591/israel-palestine_map.jpg

Rose, for once I agree with you 100%.

Perhaps we should look at finding a solution to whats causing the problem. And not make excuses for killing innocent people.

i couldn't agree more with Target365. making excuse to killing civilans. and the latest news is more sickening. gathered palestinian civilans into a house (mostly children) and then shoot the house and claiming they are HAMAS.. sick.

its sadly amusing to think people believe that these terrorists are forming out of religious zelotry when actually it's due to living in horible living circumstances. Am i the only person to see the irony between this and a certain germanic political uprising in the 20th century.

Are you kidding me, have you even read any of my responces to comments that illustrates how i justify my oppinion. I would never rely on cnn msnbc or foxnews as a media source because they are biased and corporate owned. Perhaps the information you have been given is one sided.

Msnbc,Cnn,Fox and almost all the western media is hands of jewish community in the united states you cannot imagine the influence of Jews in Western politics and on its economic system,therefor they use them as they like ......

Do not favour something you partially know rather then having confirmation by your own ......

I am totally agreed with (target) and i thank him to condemn Israeli and American Terrorism against humanity ......

I am unsure if I can aggree with your comment as I have no evidence supporting or refuting that American media is controled by semetic influence.

Actually, I have enjoyed CNN's coverage, they are showing the trucks of humanitarian aid that are not getting into Gaza and they are showing footage from Aljazeera and have been asking some challenging questions to Israeli officials, while also interviewing people from organizations that are trying to find peacebuilding methods in the region. While they are not blatantly condemning Israel for their attacks, they are giving an objective look at the crisis. More objective than FOX and Aljazeera.

It wouldn't be CNN unless they did focus on humanitarian efforts. I think its their niche. I've been ignoring it to watch the personal interest stories of abc and cbs news. Its sadly funny to watch the anchor talk to corespondents about israel and see how they look like they believe their being paid to lie about the situation and not talk about whats actually happening.

Then Palestine should be allowed to bomb suspected and known israely terrorists with "acceptable civilian loses" too.

Palestinian elected authority is doing that now, that is the reason why Israel retaliated, they killed many Israelis too from their rockets attacked, so why blame only one side? Any country attack America with rocket,Bush will wipe them out within a week.

I am only taking a side in this particular event (attacking gaza). It's understandable how both sides are justifying what is and has been done. I however find the circumstances of how Israel chooses to retailiate zealous overkill.

Israelis soldiers like to find "soft" target to be seem like hero by their people. Civilians like women and children are the best they can find in Gaza city.

Iraqi does not fire rocket at us, see what Bush did, hundred of thousand of civilians got wipe off Iraq in a matter of weeks, but nobody is making a big deal out of it.

I know this war has been enduring for centuries, and the us gives money to many different countries. I know that in war both sides think their cause is rightious. I know that attacking the weakest country out of a similar group to avoid attack from larger ones is cowardly. I know that in 2007 for every 1 israelite killed 25 palestinians were killed. I know that the media is supressing pro-gazan news, and giving vague pro-israely stories. I know that this is a political war more then religious. And i notice that people quick to defend israels actions are lacking in depth explanations past blaming hamas and small rocket fire.

When has the media even been balanced? Never. I respect that you are trying to show the other side of the equation. Unfortunately, I understand Israel's motives for attacking far more than I understand Hamas' motives. At least at this moment in time. I cannot speak for past aggressions. I also realize that many innocent people have been caught up in this and they should receive aide. There really is no simple solution to their problems over there. Yes, politics play a very heavy hand. My biggest hope is that the U.S. stays out of it and only provides aide to help those who need it.

What i dont understand is how Israel can call hamas a terrorist faction while detonating white phosphorous bombs over gaza to start uncontrolable fires, bomb targets of "suspected terrorists" that later turn out to be innocent civilians, and refuse to work with the west bank province of palistine to help them take back gazan control from the terrorist group hamas and end the palistinian civil war.

The real problem is figuring out who are the civilians and who are the aggressors. Many different types of terrorist attacks occur on both sides. Every single one of those attacks had innocent civilians involved. Hamas is probably killing even more of its own people, with its suicide bombers. This is NOT ONE-SIDED AGGRESSION. Takes two sides to have a war.

Israel is targeting political leaders, not just military aggressors. They are obviously trying to do a lot more than stop the rocket fire.

Who do you think is the driving force behind Hamas? Political leaders. Last I read, Hamas is the main political force there. It only makes sense to go after the commanders who ordered the destruction.

How about Israel who itself is a terrorist nation and have occupied the land of Palestinians ..?

Israel is doing something which is evil and Hamas is not just a group but its a largest political party of Palestine and they love Hamas,then why Israel have a right to punish all of them for there freedom to select whom they like ...?who give the right to israel to give punishment them without any reasonable reason i think we all are responsible for that,because we dont raise voice against injustice and jewish terrorism .......

how can innocent,suffering from poverty,humanitarian crises and hunger just because of israel and now they bombarded by airstrikes which is killing there innocent womens & children.......

I think now israel have no right to exist ......

Hi Farazkh. I decided to do my homework before responding to you and as a result I can now answer the question "Is Israel using hamas to justify genocide against palistinians?" with a resounding YES!

I've learned that HAMAS is really a grassroots resistance movement with a strong political and social wing that provides food, schooling and medical services. I understand why the Palestinian people elected this group over FATAH.

I also learned that, like the IRA once did, HAMAS maintains a military wing that has carried out reprehensible attacks against Israeli civilians which earned them the label of "terrorist organization". I can actually understand their rationale for committing these acts, I don't agree with it but I do believe they will not accomplish what they really want this way...to get their land back.

Israel will always use the constant rocket attacks as an excuse for their own invasions and they will always use this as way of keeping the focus on the recent events instead of what's really going on. What convinced me that Israel IS wrong is simply looking at the attached image of their occupation.

Wouldn't HAMAS accomplish more and gain more world support but peaceully and consistently demanding retribution fron the UN? They could do this by simply keeping the world focused on what's been happening over the past 60 years?

I'm sorry to say that no civilized person is to agree that a group of people should be wiped off the face of the earth. That's genocide and just WRONG!

I am sorry you feel the way you do because alot of other people around the world feel the same way. Unfortunately, as long as people feel that way, there will always be wars. Hopefully my daughter's generation will have better luck.

Regards,
Stan

Dear sir:
i am sure you are atleast aware of history and you have seen many events in your lifetime weather is it veitnam war,hiroshima attacks,Israeli massive killing in palestine and lebanon,there i would also like to mention one more crime of Israel which is enough to prove this state as the most cruel Terrorist Nation,Israel have used cluster bombs over civillians including women and children hidding in a school which is runs by United Nations,and you should answer me what if the same thing could happen to your country,then what would be your reaction no matter what happens some group of people fire little rockets on your enemy after losing patience due to hunger,un-employment,lack of basic needs and disrespect in your own country.......

I am also searching for english meterial to show you the evil mind of jewish lobby in united states to use its millitary power against the whole world and lust for the wealth of other countries ......

its so nice to meet you and keep in touch,i hope to see you soon tc bye
Regards by Faraz ...

I am sorry but i forgot to mention Kashmir in between other occupied or suffering territories of the world,and according to experts India is also blueeyed nation for Israel and United States,and the evidence of that is several times Israeli higher officials often visit India and they are helping to them to train soldiers providing them weapons and strategic experties .........

Pakistan is also on there Hit list because of its safe nuclear weapon but they don,t let any Islamic country to remain in any kind of power,i dont know why but there evil plans heading towards Islamic wold presently .......

sir, for your information, HAMAS launched rocket attack again because there's 4 farmer killed by the Israel troops. and HAMAS write letters of complains and demanding the right for those farmer to israel but ignored. you won't found this news anywhere in US sites. but try to find in palestinian or arabic site.

I heard a statement on cnn or cbs news recently that in the last 8 years palestinian rockets accounted for 15 deaths in Israel. All the constant tallies on how many hundreds of rockets hamas fires into israel just in the last year, and only 15 deaths in 8 years!? Maybe hamas would be more accurate if they had the highest income from america to quarentine Israel into an area of 20x5 miles, and choked off israels supplies. Oh wait...