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Men wearing mascara and eye shadow....at 65 years old?? email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this12 months ago

Men wearing mascara and eye shadow....at any age, but at 65 years old?? Keith Richards specifically.

What possesses a man to feel he needs to do this? This goes well beyond the clown face or a halloween night of dress-up. Even if it's a trade mark in the way that it is for KISS members, it's a bit different when the makeup is around the eyes only and becomes the primary focus of your gaze. confused
Like, this guy actually goes to the store (or has someone shop for him) and buys mascara! Does he ask the lady in line behind him what her favourite applicator style is? Or how long does she consider is a decent shelf-life of the brand she buys?? Ya know?? Like, wow!
And yet this guy must be doing something right...I've never been on stage and had women throw ME their panties:(
Could it be that I simply need to start outlining and detailing my sight-see'rs? Could it really be that simple? Wow...who wudda thunk??

As I watched Martin Scorsese's chronicle of The Rolling Stones' 2006 concert at New York's Beacon Theatre tonight, a number of other things struck me also..
How in blazes can Keith Richards still be smoking cigarettes and still be (so) alive on stage? He must be made of good genes.
And how does Mick Jagger keep air in his lungs for what he does on stage at age 65?
Could it be because he just hasn't ever stopped? Is there a lesson in there for the rest of us I wonder?

I don't have a pile of Stones music, but I respect these guys so much. They have been together for forever, and yet how do they continue to manage to tour the way they do? And they still have the energy in the music. LOTS of it! Amazing..

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this   12 months ago

Ok, since you brought it up, I'll have my say and be done with it. I, personally, feel this is SO utterly unattractive. Stage makeup, like KISS, ok, no problem, or even the Stones wearing mascara on stage to make their eyes more visible....ok...I'll settle for that.....but makeup on men is just stupid to me.

I'll not apologize, I think it's effeminate and unappealing to me, on a personal level. I like men to LOOK like MEN, not WOMEN! I don't ascribe to the asinine beliefs that men and women are equal, logic dictates they ain't. Simple facts are what I know. Now long hair, that's no problem, I don't think that's effimanate at all. Mel Gibson was pretty hot in Braveheart, although I preferred his redheaded friend Seamus! LOL!

If you're a mascara wearing dude, plunk....well....sorry man, but I think you should stop. LOL!

I don't get into all these "emo" guys either. They just look like sad lil cry babies. Give me a big strong manly man with a hearty belly laugh, not some pouty boy. I prefer real men to little boys any day of the week. And that means hair on them too, so none of that shaving yir body crappola either!

So there....I said it and I'm not ashamed.

Hi, I'm Irish and I like men to LOOK like MEN!rasp


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

I'll have to reread my post Friendly...cuz I just don't get where I gave any indication that I wear mascara! I don't!
It was the ridiculousness of it that I was commenting on.

Somehow, your description of what you like your men to be, doesn't surprise me at all, Friendly. thumbup
And you're right...men and women were not created equal. Instead, we complement each other beautifully.
The only thing that goes amiss at times is how we think and communicate. This is most recently proven 'above'.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Uhmmm....that was a sarcastic dig at ya there Plunk. I was trying to be funny....but I guess I fell short......he he...ha....ahem.........uh...oh never mind. LOL!


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

I really didn't figure you did Plunk! LOL! Forgive me?


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

of course! thumbup
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myLot reputation of 98/100. cyberfluf (2619)   ranked 18 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

You shouldn't be affraid of your opinion, and neither should those men. If we respect each other, live and let live, there is nothing wrong with having different opinions.

I don't like people who act depressed or emo, but I can appreciate make up on certain guys. However, I see why people might dislike it.
It's good that you express your meaning and are not affraid to do so, that's wha mylot is about. Commenting on eachother in a respectfull way without agreeing on just anything.


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Cyber:happyThanks hon, I appreciate that!


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Did I miss something?? We need a need a new emoticon available to us, one with a head in the clouds. Or one with a cloud around a head with stars and bubbles indicating bewilderment, haha.
Anyway, carry on girls, I don't think that was about me?

Oh...unless you were referring to my making sure it was known that THIS guy doesn't wear makeup??
Yes Friendly, I am a naive old guy sometimes, your sarcasm got by me..


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

No I don't think that was about you either. And on the sarcasm: SCORE! w00trasp

 
2. myLot reputation of 95/100. spoiled311 (3801)   ranked 9 out of 21 in cogitate this   12 months ago

hi plunketear!

hihihi that is funny alright...although i admit that i dunno who you are talking about, but yeah, i can only imagine and old guy wearing that. i don't even wear make up! lol

anyway, there are really a lot of weird people around, or at least in their manner of dressing because they do not conform to the norm. i try not to judge them, for me to each his own. although i really openly express appreciation for something that is really nice to look at.

but well yeah i think that is a funny thing for an old guy. maybe that is his signature style?

take care and God bless you1:-)


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

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3. myLot reputation of 100/100. JenInTN (3635)   ranked 14 out of 21 in cogitate this   12 months ago

Heyya plunk! It is amazing these guys are still rockin after all this time. A lot of the older bands and singers are going back on tour. I think I saw where ACDC are doing a tour and have come out with a new song. Lynard Skynard done a tour a couple of years ago and John Prine is coming to the Tennessee Theater next month. I think that your right in saying it may because they have just never stopped.I've never been much of the panty throwing type but I respect these rockers too.lol


myLot reputation of 100/100. JenInTN (3635)   ranked 14 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Oh..the makeup thing is weird.


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

It is amazing isn't it?
I think it is cool to hear about a group getting back together for another tour. Or even an isolated concert here or there. Sometimes they do it for free and a good cause.
I picked up AC/DC's new Black Ice. It is typical AC/DC. Although I suspect my favourite time era for them was from around Back In Black to around...Stiff Upper Lip.

When I was a little kid, maybe 7? or so, I remember every morning getting dressed for school in the morning and my brother had Ruby Tuesday playing, along with other stuff from that time era. Now Ruby Tuesday does actually date their music, yet others like Brown Sugar, seem timeless.
The same can be said for many of The Beatles numbers.

Ya the makeup thing I have a harder time getting my head around. While I feel that (for the most part) I am pretty open minded, there are still some things that just seem wrong. Make-up is a woman thing.
The only times that it was used for other means than to enhance facial features, was for camouflage during war and fighting.
But...oh well, the older I get the more I realize how little I know in the longer scheme of things, haha.


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Oh ya, the panty throwing...

I think Keith Richards is the only rock artist in history who has had women fans throw their panties up on stage at him. blinkwhistlesurrender

 
4. myLot reputation of 97/100. Natrak (1487)   ranked 2 out of 21 in cogitate this   12 months ago

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myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

What a cool reply Nat! In a few ways! blushwub
Some women wear makeup better than others. And some know what style (or how or whatever the description is) to apply it. They use the right amount, in the right places and get the right shades happening. Others get a little side-tracked and sorta lose their way. Ya know? And then there others too who are just naturally beautiful without any makeup on. Yet surprisingly, most women will just not agree with that. They think men are just saying it.

Did you guys get Seinfeld over there? The half hour sitcom by Jerry Seinfeld?
For some reason I am having a recollection of an episode that Jerry was coerced into carrying this leather bag that looked like a purse. Anyway, at one point he got made fun of from across the street in downtown New York. So he yells back..."It's NOT a purse! It's a European carry-all, for men". hahaha


myLot reputation of 97/100. Natrak (1487)   ranked 2 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Yes you're right about women and make up styles. I do believe that men are used to say those little lies or whatever you wish to call it, just to make us feel good, and I personally don't have anything against that. My husband says that I look better with make up and I believe him. happy
As for Seinfeld, yes I've watched some episodes but I don't recall seeing the one that you talk of.


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

He does! I find that a little surprising. Maybe you feel that way, so he knows you well enough to support your own thoughts.

Ya that episode I think is called The Man Fur. But not sure I have the name right. I remember many of the episode names.


myLot reputation of 97/100. Natrak (1487)   ranked 2 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

You really do surprise me with your comments, every time. happy
You are so thoughtful and kind, and you always make me smile.
Thanks. wink


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

That's good Nat! I'm glad that I do.
I think you are pretty special too, and I value our friendship a lot. wub


myLot reputation of 97/100. Natrak (1487)   ranked 2 out of 21 in cogitate this  11 months ago

Thanks for BR, I earned it, didn't I? Just joking, but you made me smile again. happywink


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  11 months ago

thumbupwink


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  11 months ago

Just a note here, many women as we age would do well to remember that less IS more. Dark shades on a mature woman make her look older. Subtle shades are more youthful. Why do you think that young gals cake that stuff on? So they can LOOK older. The employees under Mary Kay Ash, of Mary Kay Cosmetics, tried to get her to "tone it down" for years. LOL! She never did listen.

 
5. myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3524)   ranked 21 out of 21 in cogitate this   12 months ago

Plunk, have you ever seen Keith Richards WITHOUT makeup?*shudders* He looks like death warmed over!
I understand the need to wear it on stage. Otherwise their faces would be nothing but a blur to the back rows of seats.
And I think really, some of these old rockers still do it, because it's part of their self image now, what with the paparazzi always in their faces no matter where or what they are doing because they are still news all these years later....
And let's face it Plunk. No hard core rocker is EVER going to admit to being TOO old to be a hard core rocker, and give up looking like one!
To me it's like watching the motor cycle drivers descend on Tim Horton's in the Spring. All decked out in leathers (which yes, I do understand the need for) and head bands, a lot of them over 65 and still riding, but somehow looking a little ridiculous in their get-ups at their age........especially the women! lol



myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Yes, the Tim Horton's scene....sigh...
Some of that (cruiser) crowd are terrific. They really are. However, with certain others, there are some seriously lost souls just trying to find their niche.
There is quite a well known label put on the Harley crowd, by other bikers. They say that when you buy a Harley, you're not buying a motorcycle, so much as you are purchasing a lifestyle.
And ain't it the truth.

I can tell you a little story..
A few years ago during an online blind dating exploration, this girl and I had struck up a conversation online, and exchanged photos etc. So after a week or so, we then started to chat on the phone. And were getting along quite well to be honest. But for some reason a key pc of info had never come out yet. I knew she rode a Harley (it made no difference to me) but every time we were chatting bikes, there was the odd time you could tell she was about to ask me what bike I rode, but everytime I was about to say she would go off on another self-important path telling again of her explorations to these Harley get togethers like Americade and Daytona etc. She sure did like to talk..
Anyway, so when she said we should get together and go to one of these ride meets together I said sure, let's do it. But...get this...finally during the planning stages it came out that I didn't ride a Harley, I rode a sportbike.
And believe it or not, we were getting along quite well although I had some concerns over her non-stop chatter
(and that coming from a guy who can chat with the best of them, especially if we're talkin' about bikes, haha) but things were ok up until she learned that I didn't have a Harley. And then you could just see her enthusiasm fade away as fast as a Harley going downhill with a tailwind. haha but rolleyes
then confused and finally whistle
Anyway, that was that. She, incredibly, told me that while she thought I was as super guy, she just couldn't be seen socializing with a man friend that showed up at one of these bike meets on a sportbike of all things.

True story [surrender]
and.... [thumb down]

Sure does explore new levels for the term shallowness, eh? haha


myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3524)   ranked 21 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Might have saved a lot of time if you'd told her at the start what you drove....?
But actually, now that I know you better, I understand why you didn't.......and I'm sorry after all that she turned out to be so shallow. We're not ALL like that Plunk don't you know? Hmmmmmm?


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

It would have saved time, but like I say a couple of times it was close to coming up, but then she got onto something else. I think she made certain assumptions. Like she was impressed with my literacy skills (such as they are) and was intrigued that that combo went with being a truck driver, yet she knew I had quite a few other talents like when she learned I had built (am still haha) my own home. But I have a feeling that because of my reaction to knowing what she rode (I quietly made barfing gestures on the other end of the phone when she told be about her 'wonderful' Harley and all the chrome and lace she had added) (KIDDING!) but of course my reaction was just me being friendly and sharing in her enthusiasm, I think that with me being a truckdriver I guess she just assumed I had a Harley. lol I guess she was making pretty big plans for the ol' Plunk...till the ball was dropped, haha
When I look back on it now, while it was a discouraging to witness such shallowness, I feel though like, as it turned out, I got the luckiest break there is! Whew!

Major whew! lol


myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3524)   ranked 21 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Yep, WHEW! Because that means you're still single........nudge, nudge, wink, wink! LOL


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

you flatterer you wink


myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3524)   ranked 21 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

wub


myLot reputation of 92/100. Irishfrndly65 (7368)   ranked 8 out of 21 in cogitate this  11 months ago

LACE on a Harley, gag here too! wink


myLot reputation of 82/100. sparkofinsanity (3524)   ranked 21 out of 21 in cogitate this  11 months ago

What can I say. I'm a Stevie Nicks fan and was listening to Leather and Lace at the time.....

 
6. myLot reputation of 99/100. vivasuzi (1844)   12 months ago

I'm totally anti-makeup for guys. I'm a girl and I don't even wear much of it, so if a guy is wearing mascara, that would be such a turn-off. But I think when it comes to celebs, many women get so excited by the person that they are willing to forgive anything. It seems to be the thing now-a-days with bands. I listen to Alternative rock and notice A LOT of male rock bands wearing obvious eye liner and eye makeup. I guess it's part of their "look" and I guess doing it for the stage is ok, but I wouldn't want to date a guy who has to put on makeup for longer than I do every day:-D


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

I hear ya vivasuzi.
To me, eye liner and mascara and all that, especially around the eyes, is THEE sexiest part of makeup on a woman!

I prefer it to lipstick (I love a woman's natural lips, and the shade is always perfect. How can you improve on lips I'd like to know?) or blush or whatever else they use.
The only thing (non visual) that is a greater force of attraction for me than make-up, IMO, is perfume if it suits her and is not too heavily drenched on her, haha

And on another note, do you remember last year when we became friends and I made some comment about your avatar? I won't bother saying here what it was I said, but today, FINALLY, after a year, I finally can see what it really is! And of course it isn't at all what I thought it was. You musta thought I was a bit nuts given what I said, haha.
Oh well, almost a year later, mystery solved.. haha

 
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myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  12 months ago

Yup, you must have missed that in my discussion starter.
No other artist (that I am aware of) has this happened to. And it is an ongoing thing...or at least use to be..

 
8. myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (5013)   9 months ago

Hiya Plunk, lol@ thunk, is that a real word?

I am fascinated with men wearing make up. I started a discussion on this too, but maybe if I'd searched with a different line I would have found yours and replied instead of creating another one. I used the word 'guyliner' to search and no topics were found. Anyway... Guyliner and manscara, another term I just recently came across are perfectly acceptable to me.
The mind does boggle about whether or not they go into the shops and ask all these questions, but if I were a shop assistant it wouldn't bother me, I would encourage it. Why shouldn't men wear make-up? or for that matter, why should women wear it? I think it's to accentuate our features, draw more attention to them and it certainly drew mine to Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean. Sexy!
I don't know much about the Rolling stones, except that thier music is brilliant and yes, I admire them for thier stamina and endurance too.

Alice happy


myLot reputation of 98/100. plunketear (1232)   ranked 1 out of 21 in cogitate this  9 months ago

it's a real slang word, Alice.. lol

"who wudda thunk??" is a slang expression for sure. Spelled poorly on purpose...hey...I just had a deja vu cuz/because I cudda/could've sworn you did a discussion on this very thing didn't ya/you?
Spelling wrong and using poor grammar on purpose..

I'd put makeup on just once to see what it would look like, but it would be for a laugh only and I wouldn't go out in public like that. I'd do it just to entertain you if you wanted me to..whucha/what're ya/you gonna/going to do for me now...huh/huh/eh? lol

eh|a; e|
exclamation
used to represent a sound made in speech in a variety of situations, in particular to ask for something to be repeated or explained or to elicit agreement: “Eh? What's this?”| “Let's hope so, eh?”
ORIGIN natural utterance: first recorded in English in themid 16th cent.

oh...and:

thunk 1|?? ng k|
noun & verb
informal term for thud .
thunk 2
informal or humorous past and past participle of think:: who would've thunk it?

 
9. myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (8839)   1 month ago

he could have had it tattooed on by now..he'd be kind of stuck with itlol

i used to know a local musician that did exactly that tho-would ask the counter girl her opinions of the different makeup brands...when he didn't steal his sister's makeup that islol

 
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