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myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics12 months ago

Senior citizens receiving Social Security would get a bonus payment of $300 under the Senate version of President Barack Obama's economic recovery plan. There's also a temporary two-year $500 tax cut for most workers and $1,000 for couples, a $2,500 tax credit to help pay for college, tax cuts for businesses and to promote renewable energy, and $87 billion worth of help to states struggling with their 2009-2010 budgets for the Medicaid health care program for the poor and disabled. The $300 bonus for seniors and disabled people recieving Supplemental Security Income payments would cost $17 billion, and is perhaps the biggest difference between the House and Senate economic recovery plans. Veterans who get disability and pension payments would also get the $300 under the proposal. Neither the House or Senate measure includes help for middle to upper income taxpayers caught in the alternative minimum tax, which aimed to prevent tax-avoidance by the extremely wealthy but now threatens more than 20 million tax filers. The social security bonus is a one-time payment. Other provisions in the stimulus measure generally extend for two years. For low income workers, the measure would make the child tax credit more generous by making more people eligible for refunds if they earn too little to pay income tax. The earned income tax credit for the working poor would be made more generous for larger families. President Obama wants the bill on his desk by the middle of February. First it must pass the full House and Senate in the next few weeks.

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I know there are some who will go in an uproar over this proposal but I am asking others if this proposal is a good one for the poor and seniors. I work with this element of society and I know that $300.00 is a drop in the ocean for them. One of my clients recently go $33,000.00 in back Veteran Benefits and will get close to $2,000 a month. So $300.00 would be a bounus for her, but I have other clients who qualify for SSI and Social Security but the amounts are really small. For them it is almost like the previous stimilus, not very much to be over joyed about. I applaud the effort to consider the seniors but it hardly seems enough.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 82/100. unusualsuspect (2413)   ranked 1,544 out of 6,387 in politics   12 months ago

I live on Social Security and my income is about $10,000. a year, plus a little extra that I make online. I'd welcome the $300.00, but it would probably go to the same place the economic incentive bonus went -- my savings account. That sounds as if I don't need it, but I have no life insurance, and only partial health coverage, so I try to keep building up my emergency fund. I'd like to see more given to those who really need it and not give any bonus to seniors who are living very well.


myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

Saving is a smart move and very smart in this economic crisis. I am hoping this stimulus will go through. I don't get Social Security or SSI but I work with some women who do and times are just as hard for seniors and the disabled as it is for anyone else. Thanks for you imput.

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2. myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3060)   ranked 1,313 out of 6,387 in politics   12 months ago

I'd like to see some changes in how much money a disabled person is allowed to make. I'm my daughter's representative payee and it seems I'm paying back constantly for what monies she has worked over the limit then another $350 a month is set aside for the PASS program she's on. Being able to set aside more would help for her and others to reach a goal not to mention help them become more self-sufficient
I had heard there was a stimulus for those who didn't qualify for the last one. A friend of mine called me to tell me about it. Are you talking about a bonus payment besides this one? My daughter who didn't qualify for the last one does qualify for this one.


myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

Your daughter would qualify. It has to pass the House and Senate but Obama wants to approve it by February and start sending checks. If she gets SSI or Social Security she will qualify. BTW: I think it is WRONG to set an income limit for the disabled. Many WANT to work and should not be penalized for it. I see alot of this in my line of work and its a catch 22 and not at all right. Medical and other expenses far outweigh wages they may make I am sure.


myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3060)   ranked 1,313 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

On this you and I agree. I'm paying back the Christmas bonus she got from her job because it put her over the $940 mark. I don't know if it has changed since the last increase. I probably should have taken the money and put it into her account, but I just didn't have the heart to as she was so thrilled to have that extra money. While I don't physically pay back the money it comes out of her SSI which means I have less to spend for her. She just this last year became eligible for SSDI but even with that it doesn't go far to make sure she's taken care of.
She's suppose to be going to school to learn culinary arts but the school is too far away and she has issues with road travel. I've been working the past few years trying to get us closer but the few steps we get ahead aren't enough to make up for the many steps we seem to be pushed back. Being able to keep more of her money to save up would help tremendously.


myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

Yes irishidid this we do agree. As I posted above the economy is just as hard on the disabled and seniors as it is on everyone else. I don't know your daughter situation but there are some instances where medicines are not covered and medical supplies. I was appauled to find out some people are on disability are still paying $200 and more for uncovered medicine. I intend to send many messages via the link on the White House website and this is one topic I plan to work on along with Veteran Benefits.


myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3060)   ranked 1,313 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

My daughter has Autism, ADHD, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, OCD, Dysgraphia and some others they can't find a diagnosis for. Most of the medications have been covered by medicaid. One that I remember they wouldn't cover was anafranil because the state decided she didn't need it. The reason it was prescribed was for trichatillamania which is obsessive hair pulling. Both her developmental specialist and the pharmacy went round and round with the state to get them to cover it. Strangely enough they approved the Prozac she was on for her OCD without an argument.
Right now she's off of all medications. We made that decision together after her being on one or more medication of some form since she was three years old. Going on two years with no medication but we know there's the possibility she may need it again.


myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

Congratulations on being medicine free. Wish we had another thread for this topic as I am curious. I had a client also on Prozac and she took herself off and told me she feels better off of it. It makes you wonder about over medication. I am glad she is doing well without it and hope that will last for awhile. It is amazing she is able to work too and WANTS to go to school to learn an art. You and I may differ but I am proud of her for pushing forward. I am actually we got to 'chat' about her. I know I was put on Prevacid for acid reflux and it was $140.00 for a month supply (30 pills) and my insurance wouldn't cover it. I fought long and hard but in the end I had to take the generic. Crazy. Hopefully (I am semi holding my breath)this plan will pass. Everyone can't get out and build bridges and dig ditches for the infrastructure and they do need help too.


myLot reputation of 15/100. cjrwells (342)   ranked 2,638 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

OPPS, I was trying to say i am glad we got to chat about her.


myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3060)   ranked 1,313 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

The Prozac was a necessary at the time and believe me I questioned the doctor about it before I agreed to put her on it. The OCD had gotten to the point of interrupting her life. On one visit to her sister's house my older daughter counted over thirty bathroom visits in an hour. Another issue was four leaf clovers, seriously. Where most kids might spend maybe five minutes looking for one she would obsess for hours over finding them. Funny thing is, she'd find them too! Honestly, I could go on and on about what I've dealt with concerning her.
We may not agree on everything, but there's common ground here. Both of us understand the needs of the disabled and the need to advocate for them. Kudos to you for the efforts you're making to help those who need it.

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3. myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 276 out of 6,387 in politics   12 months ago

Tax credits mean nothing if you do not have the money to spend on whatever the tax cut is for to begin with. If you don't have the money to pay college tuition, you can't show it as something you have spent and therefore, can't get a tax credit for it! If businesses don't have or can't get the money to do the various things the government gives tax credits for - they can't get the tax credit!

From my understanding, the tax cut for working people/couples would come as a reduction in the withholding from your pay check - maybe $20 a week or so, which wouldn't make a lot of difference. Take into consider also, that you wouldn't actually GET $20 because there would be Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld from that amount.

Regarding the payment to those receiving Social Security - I believe that should be dependent on how much in other assets the person has - some people who receive Social Security have a lot of money/assets while others live strictly on their Social Security benefits.


myLot reputation of 88/100. grammasnook (1260)   ranked 87 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

If you are on social security or disability the money you are able to have saved is very limited. As for assets if they had it before their social security would you insist they would have to sell something they worked hard and long for? Just because they own a house does not mean they are living high. I believe that it should be available to all our seniors. Oh and please do not think this because my name has gramma in it, I still have 20+ years before I can collect social security.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 276 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

Here are the SSI guidelines: http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/11000.html#part2

I
believe I have heard that this is something else that Obama wants to change - basically because the SS system will go bankrupt in a matter of a few years if something isn't changed.


myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3060)   ranked 1,313 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

There are programs such as the PASS that allows the person to save more money than usual without losing their benefits and penalizes less if you work. It tends to be one of those things you have to look for as it isn't general information.
There's a difference between those with some money at retirement and those with abundance. It isn't based on need so the multi-millionaire does qualify for social security retirement payments.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 276 out of 6,387 in politics  12 months ago

I know that some people do it some way - because I know people who do have a lot of money/assets that do get SSI. There are those also, who work for cash and don't report it!

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4. myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1930)   ranked 60 out of 6,387 in politics   11 months ago

Well where are they getting the money to pay for this? We are in an ecomonic crisis..we have a huge national debt...more and more people are out of work which means less tax dollars coming in. I am not saying I am against it....just how are they going to pay for it. Sometime or another (hopefully soon) congress will actually start balancing our national budget and pay off our national debt. It would be the responsible thing to do. I wonder where some of them got their accounting degrees or who balances their personal check books...cause it is not them.

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