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myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347) 4 years ago

Boston College in the crosshairs


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This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen, more after the jump hehehe.




Some Boston College professors and students are raising a holy ruckus over the Catholic school’s return to its religious roots by hanging crucifixes in all its classrooms, calling the move “offensive” and a break from the Jesuit tradition of tolerance.

“There is no choice if you don’t think it’s appropriate. You can’t turn it around,” said biology professor Dan Kirschner, faculty adviser for BC’s chapter of Hillel, a Jewish student group. “I think it is being insensitive to the people of other faith traditions here.”

Amir Hoveyda, head of BC’s chemistry department, blasted the school in an e-mail to the Herald for “not being interested in an exchange with its faculty members.”

In an interview with the college newspaper, The Observer, which broke the story, Hoveyda described the crucifixes as “offensive” and the university’s actions as “anti-intellectual.”

“I can hardly imagine a more effective way to denigrate the faculty of an educational institution,” he is quoted as saying. “The insult is particularly scathing, since such symbols were installed without discussion . . . in a disturbingly surreptitious manner.”

BC spokesman Jack Dunn said college President Rev. William P. Leahy decided to install crucifixes in the university’s 151 classrooms as a means of reconnecting the school with its “Catholic mission.”

“As a Catholic university, we view the crucifix as a sacred symbol and its placement reflects our commitment to our religious heritage. We hope that those who do not share our faith tradition can respect our intentions,” he said.

Dunn said many BC classrooms and lecture halls already displayed crucifixes and religious icons, such as images of the Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus. But over winter recess, crosses were put in some 40 rooms - including science labs - sparking the backlash.

The display of crucifixes - some of them hand-carved works brought back by students from volunteer missions overseas - is an outgrowth of the college’s Committee on Christian Art, formed in 2002 to promote Christian artworks on campus..

Patrick Reilly, head of The Cardinal Newman Society, said he was “thrilled” by the action of Boston College, which too often “seemed to shy away from any overt affiliation as Catholic.”

“Catholic colleges across the country will be grateful for Boston College’s taking such a clear stand in support of its Catholic identity,” he said.

Many students agreed.

“Boston College welcomes students, faculty and staff from all religious persuasions with welcome arms,” said senior Patrick Fouhy, 21. “But at the end of the day, we are still a Jesuit, Catholic university and that is a core part of our identity. Putting crucifixes up is a nice reminder of that.”

But sophomore Alex LoVerde, 20, believes a crucifix “pushes the Catholic religion” and does not belong in a classroom. “I think the Jesuit tradition is more of openness and tolerance,” LoVerde said. “I think that an overt display of crucifixes is not what the Jesuits would have had in mind.”


Um what? Everyone knows how I feel about christianity and all that, but well freedom of religion does mean every religion. There is no way in hell I could or would ever tell anyone that what they believe is wrong, I might say them having a closed mind and not thinking for themselves is damn stupid but thats it. Ok this is a christian college, specifically catholic. Ummm and having crucifix's up is wrong how? Hell im all for separation of church and state and all that, but when the school is a christian school they should have the right to this kind of stuff. Hell I wont be going there, probably wouldnt even be accepted lol, but who am I, or anybody, to tell them what they can and cant do?


 

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1. myLot reputation of 77/100. MYKLJ999_VERSION_2 (2961)   4 years ago

Wait a minute, I wanna make sure I get this right...

People are complaining.

About crucufixes.

On the walls.

At a Catholic school.

I'm having a real "WTF" moment here...blink


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yep exactly, and not only that, a PRIVATE catholic school. Ummm what? Hell its not like its a community college lol. I joined you in the WTF moment too, and hell lots of farkers are atheists and even most of them are saying its stupid.


myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2227)   ranked 339 out of 6,501 in religion  4 years ago

glad to see I am not the only one vacationing in the state of confusion LOL

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2. myLot reputation of 78/100. mscott (1752)   4 years ago

It is a Catholic School right? The head of the students Jewish group doesn't like it? He says they have no choice? Well, there are a lot of things wrong with this story. He does have a choice, he can go to a different school. Isn't it a private school? Don't they have the right to do whatever they want? I am pretty sure it isn't a public university but wow there are just a lot of dumb things about this. w00t


myLot reputation of 64/100. darkjedi (4347)  4 years ago

Yep exactly, I bet if it was a Jewish private college he wouldnt have a problem with the star of david and menorah's being put up and if some catholic who worked there, knowing full well when they got the job what would be there, started having problems with it I bet he would be pissed about it.

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3. myLot reputation of 48/100. sndcain36 (2691)   4 years ago

Boston College is a Jesuit school?

Then there's nothing to argue about. Jesuit=Catholic. If you don't want to be exposed to Catholicism then stay away from Jesuit schools.

Freaking PC liberals make me want to hurl.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. moonlitmagikchild (8089)   ranked 31 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

what part of "Catholic school" do they not understand?!! if they dont like it why are they even there?!?! psychos!

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5. myLot reputation of 75/100. BethsMom24 (817)   4 years ago

Hey David, the WTF moment for me is this: this is a school; do they not have anything better to do then fight about a cross being hung in a private, Catholic school? Good God, they are there to learn; ignore the cross and learn then.

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6. myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2227)   ranked 339 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

It is a Catholic University!
what do people expect?
are they falsely advertising the school as being something other than a Catholic school?
I dont understand what the problem is
if people knowingly go to a Catholic college then they should expect to see some crucifixes

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   4 years ago

Amen to that jed! wink Are we moving to a time when we can do nothing at all without clearing it with some PC entity first? Why would you go there if you weren't Catholic? If you did, you'd be aware that there would be some things that would be particular to that school, right? What idiots.

This is all getting TOO ridiculous for words. This is America for gosh sakes! Land of the free, home of the brave, freedom of speech and religion! I guess we'll have to write a new anthem, might go something like this.

Oh say we can't see
by the dawn's early light
cause they took all our freedoms
and set us tooo-oo flight

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8. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23197)   4 years ago

all I can say is good for them! being a chatholic school in the first place they probably had tehm up when the school started so why did they take then down? ADn yup being that kind of school they should have them up and no one should be offended . If they are strong in the faith theyhave for what ever it is seeing a cross should affect them at all!

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9. myLot reputation of 96/100. tamarafireheart (13724)   ranked 996 out of 6,501 in religion   4 years ago

Hi dardjedi,



Once again an argument over religion, well to be honest with you, it is a catholic school, so what is wrong with hanging crucifixes around the rooms, if others don't like it, they can go else where.


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10. myLot reputation of 96/100. patriciaqualls (4590)   4 years ago

This is a Catholic school. They have had crucifixes at the schools for years. This is just crazy. You are right it was the other way around with something else other than crucifixes I am sure that would be just fine. I don't see what the problem is if that is what they have believed in and done for years. Now why all of the sudden is someone going to change this. I just don't get what is going on in the world today.


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