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myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590) 3 years ago

This probably belongs elsewhere, in "technology", but I just learned about a new type of car-tire, the "next generation", which are supposedly manufactured by Michelin at the South Carolina plant, and which were allegedly at at the Philadelphia Auto Show.
These are "see-through" tires, as you can perceive from the pic below, and the "spokes" are all one piece with the rubber from the outside wrap!
Naturally, they are "airless", which means that the Police better come up with something other than the spike strips to stop speeding getaways.
The way I see it, somebody came up with these on account that most gas stations don't have air-pumps anymore (people steal their hoses), or else they charge for it if they do.!
The greatest advantage of all seem to be less likelyhood of flats.!
What do you think.? I wonder what the cost will be and how the ride will feel.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. trinidadvelasco (9574)   3 years ago

hmmmm...see through tires that do not need any air in there. this is great!

this really sounds great. i am trying to imagine how would it look like. most probably, it will take sometime before i can have a look at it as i live at a considerable distance from where it is being displayed right now.

i hope that this is really a good breakthrough akin tyres. the ones that we are using now, they cause us so much troubles with dealing about flats.

you are right though that we will have our doubts as to how the rides will be. we know that if the tires are much too filled with air, it gets to be a bumpy ride. i hope that they have already dealt with this aspect.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Sorry Trini, I tried to post the pic with my comment but the system flawed and failed me. Anyway, I hope it goes this time.
And you're absolutely right in everything you say, especially about the bumpy ride, but these seem to accomodate that problem.
One thing is sure, that I won't be buying the first ones, just in case.



myLot reputation of 98/100. trinidadvelasco (9574)  3 years ago

yes, the first ones that get available in the market needs to be improved yet. that is always how it is with new things that goes in the market. aside from this, the first ones are also priced much higher. however, we can be sure that the ones who always wants to be among the firsts, will be reserving the very first ones that goes out in the market. this is how it always happens, right mechanic.

it is good that you are able to get that photo in now. many thanks for the effort.

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6158)   ranked 427 out of 710 in learner   3 years ago

WEIRD! That's the first word that popped into my head when I saw the picture! They look like they belong more on mopeds or bicycles than on cars. They don't look like they could support the weight of a car, van, SUV or pickup truck.

But, we all know about bumble bees, right? Theoretically, bumble bees should NOT be able to fly, yet they do! I guess this tire is similar.

What in the world are those spokes made of? I'd want to know how long the tires would last and how the ride will feel more than how much they'd cost. I'd want to know the technological side of them... how much testing was done, why this type of material works so well (assuming it does), etc. Would they lower our insurance rates since there would be no chance of getting a flat front tire which could lead to an accident?

Yeah, I'd have a lot of questions that would have to be answered to my satisfaction before I'd ever give them a try. How long they'd be good for would be my biggest question. Changing tires is just not my thing, ya know?

Interesting, though. Thanks for the brain stimulation!!! thumbup


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Technology, love.! That's technology for you. Let's not forget that there are such things as solid spares that are not recomended for higher speeds or long distances. Those were probably the guinea pigs.
Let's also remember that according to the announcement, it is noone other than Michelin(!) Ahh! The wonder of it all.
What about how good the traction? That's another question, especially since the spokes and the "tread" should be the same composite, right? And how are they fixed to the rims?
Yeah, I'm VERY curious as well.!


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6158)   ranked 427 out of 710 in learner  3 years ago

Oh, right, traction! That would be a kinda important thing, too, wouldn't it? It would suck if we needed to get new axils or whatever it is that the tires attach to. Now, you've got me very curious about these things. I'm just gonna have to do some investigating! (After all, I have nothing ELSE going on in my life at the moment, right? doh)

Your response below mine almost had me giggling. It brought back a rather fond memory. Those hydraulic "jumping" cars!

I was driving somewhere once, waiting for a red light to change when this idiot in front of me started doing all his litte 'tricks' to impress everyone (well, they THINK they're impressing everyone). The light had just turned green and I think maybe he pressed the wrong button or something because his car started jumping all over the place as he started moving forward.

IMMEDIATELY, from behind me, a police car's lights started flashing like crazy and off he went after the idiot in his idiotmobile. (Those things are illegal on public streets.) I just had to shake my head in amazement at just how stupid some people can be.

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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. psspurgeon1 (669)   3 years ago

looks a little precarious to me. a little scary. it doesn't seem to be made of much, looks easy to break. i wouldnt mind it in town but i would be terrified to drive it on the interstate. it would be nice though not to have to worry about losing tread adn going flat but it looks like we may have to worry about it breaking in general. and it would probably be hugely expensive.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

It's a mystery to me, really. I would think that the material for the spokes would be too rigid for the treads, and traction would be lacking, so we just have to wait and see. Cost will initially be excessive, I'm sure, but you know those types that just care about the looks will pay anything!


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Have you wondered if they'll be good enough for those hydraulic jumping cars?


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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12877)   ranked 117 out of 710 in learner   3 years ago

I think I'd have to try them before I bought them. Like you, I would be wondering what the ride would be like...also handling around corners and under brakes. How long do they last and how expensive are they would be other questions on my mind. I find that I'm rather averse to change. I live in the bush and I have a compressor I can use and someone handy who can fix my punctures if required.happy


myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12877)   ranked 117 out of 710 in learner  3 years ago

I've added a comment to the picture friend.wink


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

CORNERING!! GOOD QUESTION, thanks. w00t
I'll look at that comment now. glare

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5. myLot reputation of 91/100. KatieDidit (885)   3 years ago

Cool, I like the idea, I'd try them in a heartbeat. I wonder though what it does for gas mileage. I'd assume it would stay at a steady rate, but I know that under/over inflation of tires affects your gas mileage. With these you'd have no more "blowouts" which can cause serious and deadly accidents. But you're right it would hamper the police use of stop sticks.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

I bet you learned that about the tire pressure from Obama, right? rolleyes
But you're absolutely correct! Tire inflation affects not only your mileage but also traction and wear, which everbody should know, that an underinflated tire wears them badly and can cause blowouts.
The police...well, they might adapt something like those flytraps that they stick to? lol (just kidding, of course)


myLot reputation of 91/100. KatieDidit (885)  3 years ago

Nah, I'm a font of collected useful and useless information. I've known that about tire pressure since I started driving a couple + decades ago.happy And if I had of forgotten, well it was one of the tips that was repeatedly on the news when gas was over $4.00 a gallon. I had one of those blowouts doing 60 on the freeway and it scared the living daylights out of me how little control I had. I've been careful of my tires ever since.

The thought of the police using flytraps congers up funny images but somehow I don't think the idea will fly. (Pun intendloled)




myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

JECH! You just reminded me of a blowout I had on the Florida Turnpike, going around a pretty tight curve in my Cougar. My right front tire blew while going about 90 and I never lost control, but I just remembered... THEY WERE MICHELIN TIRES!!! w00t


myLot reputation of 91/100. KatieDidit (885)  3 years ago

Wow, you were lucky! I don't remember what mine were...my blowout happened 30 years ago. What I do remember is this incredible pull. Fortunately there was no one next to me because the car pulled across 2 lanes of traffic before I got it stopped. It was scary!

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. 1hopefulman (3142)   3 years ago

Wow! If true, might be very useful. No more flats and no ore checking tire pressure. thumbup


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

NO doubt, it's an amazing interesting design. What I read is that there were only two at the expo, so we may have to wait a while for the real thing. I'm eager to find and the more I look at them the more questions I have.

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