Adoption, should same sex couple have the right?

I have no offense here to anyone out there that are same sex couple.. Yes, i understand that there are some cases that even single parents are able to bring up their child well if enough love is given, but we have to admit that it's more difficult, tedious, and more obstacles that will be faced.
I believe that likewise, if a same sex couple know how to deal with their adopted child well, the child will go up healthy and happy, but.. i can't deny that more obstacles will be faced as well in the child's upbringing.. not all in this world can accept same sex couple yet, at least majority of the asians couldn't.. I have lot's of friends that are gays or lesbians.. but if my son or daughter is one.. i'm not sure how would i react..

when it comes to raising a child, a child raised in a loving environment is better off than one who isn't. the child would also be very wanted. i really don't see many negatives here. everyone grows up with something to overcome, sometimes it is a small thing and sometimes it is big. there is no such thing as a "perfect" childhood.

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Actually, that is not the "norm" anymore. Many, many children are raised by single parents. Quite often those parents go on to marry others with children as well and now you want to talk about a difficult situation....blending families is a very hard thing to do and while it may not cause much commotion from outsiders.....the very foundation of the family is often (not always) pretty fragile. I think if the child is secure and loved in his home then he will be strong enough to handle what obsticles he faces on the outside with confidence and surety. Is that not more important?

Of course, i agreed with you that with love, care, and concern by the family, it will definitely boost the confidence of the kid to deal with how the "outside" people look into that family.. Assuming the culture he is in have another view regarding homosexuality, but it's still an obstacles, and i do hope that these kids lead a happy life with their foster parents..

don't we all have obstacles? there are different degrees of them of course. Did you ever hear someone comment about an adopted child and call them a "chosen" child. that says a lot. by chosen they mean they really thought about the choice and they really wanted the child. that alone is huge for self-esteem.

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I agreed, the child will definitely be able to see that his/her adoptive parents are not living to the norm, and may not be accepted by the society, then would the child be able to grow up normally in this kind of environment? Imagine the stares by the child's classmates, or even teachers if they are having a school even that require parents attendance?
It's of no fault of the adoptive parents, they might have tried their best in giving love to their adoptive child, but things may not turn out to be the "as long as there is love, it is enough" situation for the child!

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So... you believe that if someone doesn't love the 'correct' (in somebody's arrogant mind) gender that means they have to give up the right to have children? You know, if EVERY single child born was planned and wanted, we would not have adoption nor abortion, but EVERY single child is NOT planned and wanted, and the state systems are overrun with children who have no parents, no family, nobody who loves them, nobody who wants them. What is so wrong with a couple who wants to raise a child being able to adopt a child who needs a home and parents? Whose definition is the final authority? Parents are parents. I don't see how it matters whether they are a mom and a dad, a mom and a mom, or a dad and a dad or a single mom or a single dad. The only deciding factor would be to make sure they could reasonably provide for themselves and the child. SOME people have issues with it but they are ignoring the other factors, that some of these kids will never have loving homes and parents if they remain too interested in splitting hairs over the definition of 'proper parents'. There are plenty of traditional parents who are not good parents lol. Really, where do you get off drawing a line?

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Which i understand that as long as any situation proof unusual for the society to accept, prejudice and discrimination occurs.. i have woke up, correctly my mindset now.. and do hope that the society changes its views as well..

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Agreed that these falls under the fault of the other kids being so-called brought up normally by heterosexual couples. But can we blame these kids, if the adults are not having another view regarding homosexuality, i don't think these kids would.
Let's just hope that the society changes for the better regarding rights and individual sexual preference..
P.S. i cant believe i changed my thoughts from this discussion..

you did do a turn about didn't you. That happens to me sometimes on these discussions as well. Sometimes I just have to kick back and look at things from a different angle. Great discussion you have going here!

after all the "tough" remarks i got, well, did a turn..=)
After thinking deep.. i was indeed so wrong in thinking the way i used to just days ago..>. <

I really have to commend you for being so open minded! Do you have any idea how many here can have all sorts of facts and real life situations placed in front of them and still stubbornly hold on to their views that are so hurtful to others. It is really refreshing to see someone listen with their heart!

In fact, i have been thinking about this topic over and over again.. I'm not trying to find excuses regarding my prejudice against homosexuality just 2 days ago.. But i believe that it is the environment and culture that i was bought up.. Sure, i do have homosexual friends around, i still treat them as friends, as per normal, but when it came to views such as this topic, i cant believe that i'm still prejudice against them subconsciously after this discussion.. In fact, i called to apologize to my homosexual friends, (just 2), they shrugged it off saying it's nothing.. but i'm still sorry..>. <

It probably is really nothing to them. They are probably very used to this sort of thinking. I love your honesty!

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Thanks alot for your real true life case study!
I have never taken into consideration if a parent suddenly changed his/her sexual direction..
But i believe that the child is being loved..
1. Not adoptive child
2. The child still have a mother, which is female, and a dad, which is male...

Of course, you have brought up an excellent point of discussion, thanks..

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In fact, they're likely to grow up to be more tolerant of other people and more comfortable with their sexuality.

And this is a GOOD thing! An extremely good thing!

Oh my, is there such a studies and survey being made? Well, i haven't really go into hard research in these..
But i assume that such statistic and surveys are being made in the US? From my own hunch, i believe that asian cultures shouldn't reflect such statistic.. and even if they do, i may rebuke at the validity of the survey.

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I guess that is solely a case to case basis, i believe that there are tons of heterosexual couples around that are drug addicts too.. Don't think it will be any better to build a good family in this kind of family..

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But there are so many couples wanting to adopt, if these were in the minority, that would be a different story - I suppose if you were living in Sodom and Gomorrah where all the men lived together and all the females lived together and the only way you could give an orphan a home other then leaving him with Lot, was to put him with the same gender families, but now there are many married men and women who are wanting to adopt, so why bypass them to further your politically correct agenda of giving that to the same gender couple showing up at the adoption agency? And every time you give a child to a same gender couple even if they have uncles and aunts (and remember the uncle and aunt and other friends may not show up every day or even once a week.) you deny another married couple (or what you say is a heterosexual couple ) the chance to have their own child.
It seems you want to further a cause rather then think of the best interest of the child.

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shouldn't*

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when it comes to the couple in Scotland, my understanding is that it's their health problems AND their financial problems that led to the children being adopted outside of the family.

See, this is EXACTLY where I think it is perfectly fine to allow an adoption to another qualified... party. I don't think anything matters as long as they pass the rigorous standards for adopting which usually includes a cost and background check to make sure their finances are okay and they have what is needed to take care of a child. It's not like just deciding to get pregnant and getting pregnant. I think you actually have to apply to adopt and your life is nosed into by the agency you use to adopt a child from. It is not an easy process, nor is it cheap, and sometimes the wait can be long - or you may be offered a child that later becomes unadoptable - ie somebody tries to prevent you from adopting them.

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