Is there a "Communist Conspiracy" to take over the United States of America?  | | | | Hello All, Sounds like a threadbare plot to an old "James Bond" movie, huh? Few words in contemporary history have inspired the kind of reaction that the words "communism" and "communist" do. Below is an excerpt from the US Congressional record dated Thursday, January 10, 1963. The below list is reproduced from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon Skousen. Again, this was a communist to-do-list as written in 1963! Of the 45 "Communist Goals" listed, how many have been achieved in the last 46 years? Any thoughts? ____________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm 1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. 3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. 4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. 5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. 6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. 7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. 8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. 9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. 10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. 11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) 12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. 13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. 14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. 16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. 17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. 18. Gain control of all student newspapers. 19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. 20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions. 21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. 22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms." 23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art." 24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." 29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. 30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." 31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. 32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. 33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. 34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. 35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. 36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. 37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. 38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. 39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. 40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. 42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. 43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. 45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike. | | | | | | | | | | Free History Magazine Get the world's biggest events. Get a free History Channel® Magazine. Thehistorychannelclub.com
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| 1. xfahctor (7623)
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3 years ago
| | I thought perhaps it would be apropriate to remind people of the words of Nikita Krushchev, former Premier of the Soviet Union “We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.” | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Very appropriate, X. Thanks for sharing. | | | | | | | Free History Magazine Get the world's biggest events. Get a free History Channel® Magazine. Thehistorychannelclub.com | add comment | | | |
| 2. Destiny007 (4866)
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3 years ago
| | The short answer is yes. The long answer is yes, but it goes deeper than that. What is communism other than the ruling class dictating to rest of the country... or to the world? What if there were a cabal of Financial Elites whose sole purpose was to take control of our country, and the global economy as well? What if the purpose of these rich bankers to use communism and socialist policies as a way to prepare the American people for government control over their lives at the direction of these elites? We now have them talking openly about a New World Order, and about a Global Currency. We have mandatory volunteerism in the works, more gun control laws being tried, Nationalized Healthcare, Climate Change and hundreds of new taxes that go with it... and it all is for the express purpose of controlling people. A while back I saw a video called Freedom to Fascism, which I highly recommend. Last night, I saw this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw It is 2 hours long, so grab some chips. | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Destiny, Well, at least we have congruity between the long and short of it, huh? Oh wait, in this case, we'd be much better of with incongruity, wouldn't we? Incongruity would suggest that the communist agenda died with the Soviet Union -- and wouldn't that be nice? A two hour Youtube video? Wow, I thought that Youtube had a time cap? OK then, I'll put that one on my 'to watch' list. Thanks for the recommendation. | | | | Destiny007 (4866)
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3 years ago
| | Yeah, it does a very good job of explaining how an ineligible and inexperienced puppet managed to be come president. It also puts the presidency in perspective. There is a lot of information there. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | OK then, thank you Destiny. I'll make a point to check it out. | | | | | kimandjoe (55)
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3 years ago
| | yeah! Obama is pushing us into communism, um theres a thing Called the Amero, the ONE World money, and the Verichip part of obamas ONE WORLD ORDER PLAN this verichip is already been put into millions.... look it up on youtube.com "RFID VERICHIP" | | | | | | | Anarcha-Feminist Information and resources about Voltairine de Cleyre (1866-1912) OnlinePhilosophyClub.com | add comment | | | |
| 3. Ima_C_Suvaya (275)
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3 years ago
| | I think we can probably bury the word 'conspiracy' because it implies doing it secretly. The cat is definitely out of the bag, all we got to do is open our eyes and ears to hear the music and see the writing on the wall. (do I get any extra points for using that many trite expressions in so short a time?) Americans are seeing, but not reacting. They might be closet communists, like my brother in law. They might be too ignorant or apathetic like my stepson. They might be too old to want to fight. Or, they might be cowards and just too afraid to do anything more than bury their head in the sand. If I can borrow from T.S. Eliot, America is gonna end "not with a bang but a whimper." | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Ima_C_Suvaya, 'Course, the best place to hide something is right out in the open, right? In answer to your question, you can have as many 'points' for your response as you deem fit. We're on the honor system, right? 'Course, if you'd have thrown in an idiom or two, no doubt the point counter would probably still be clickin' away. (chuckle, chuckle) Thanks for hitting on a very important issue -- the possible reasons why people might elect to not put 2+2 together. Strange, isn't it? | | | | | | | us Dating Browse photos of people in us. Meet them now. LavaPlace.com | add comment | | | |
| 4. AngryKittyMSV (1913)
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3 years ago
| | Yes there is, but like ImaC said, it's not a secret, at least not to anyone who is paying attention anyway. | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Kitty, Yup, that ImaC is one sharp cookie, huh? Although, we don't want to underplay the wisdom of your concise observation. One need pay attention to the 'bigger picture' if one is to successfully piece the parts of the whole picture together. Frankly, it's alarming how many of the 45 goals have already been achieved, isn't it? | | | | | | | Us Coupons Get up to 75% off in your area today. Claim your free coupons here. CouponsCastle.com | add comment | | | |
| 5. peavey (7333)
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3 years ago
| | 'Way back when I was in grade school, we said and meant it: "Better dead than Red" Red meant Communist. I remember reading a little later that Communists knew they couldn't take America down by invading, as they did other countries, so they would do it by infiltrating. Our school system, our judicial system and our political systems have been infiltrated until we don't know who, if anyone, we can trust. They've done their job well, is all I can say. | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Peavey, I too remember the phrase. Though, for today's younger people it is unfortunately necessary to explain WHY dead is better than red. Freedom is a concept that is wholly taken for granted. Which means that it is inconceivable for many to fathom a reality where it is not possible to find any advocate or ally for our individual freedoms -- as has been the reality under every pure socialist system, and where the hybrids are in such a state of collective schizophrenia that the left hand is continuously undoing what the right hand has done. That of course leaves us in a state of stagnancy. As you appropriatlely pointed out, our school system is a systemic failure in this regard. In today's world, if you're under a certain age, the question is often asked "So ... what's wrong with socialism?" There are far too many who have no idea about the history of socialism or how it cannot help but morph into communism as 'it' (Collectivism) is applied to a governance reality. In other words, they've never been challenged to ponder why 'equality' is unable to survive in a system that is by nature 'heirarchical' -- which inevitably leads to abuses and and tyranny as those 'in power' seek to hold onto that power. I wish that I could argue your terrific point that "They've done their job well." Alas, such a case is impossible to make. Great points! | | | | peavey (7333)
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3 years ago
| | Infiltration is exactly why young folks don't understand why dead is better than read. Most of our college professors are "Progressives" with Socialism in mind and that's the platform they teach from. Kids look at you like you have two heads if you try to explain the evils of Communism because they just don't have the life experience to know how bad it can be. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Two heads? Funny visual, yet truer words have rarely been spoken. | | | | AngryKittyMSV (1913)
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3 years ago
| | I was fortunate to have a father who made sure we knew what was the truth and where the textbooks were wrong. The school cannot brainwash kids with liberal ideology if the parents at home are willing to take the time to teach them their own values. I got into a fight with a college professor because my mom is from Grenada and the line of crap he tried to sell us about America "invading" Grenada (which he insisted was "Granada - even the textbook got it wrong Granada is a city in Spain, Grenada is an Island nation in the Caribbean). We didn't "invade" Grenada, we took military action to HELP Grenada at the request of the Grenadians because Castro had invaded and was making things really bad for the people who live there. We LIBERATED Grenada! I said to the teacher, "Who do you want to beleive, a textbook that couldn't even spell the name of the country right, or the child of an actual Grenadian who still has family there and KNOWS what really happened?" Despite the fact that my teacher was a liberal, he respected other points of view and people who were willing to stand up for truth no matter what. I got an A+ in that class. I went to grade school int he seventies and eighties, we were taught about the civil rights movement and given an early version of sensitivity training, which was actually a pretty good idea since we were in a very ethnically mixed neighborhood, but my Dad and my Mom made sure that we learned at home as well, and made sure we didn't just believe what we were told because we were told it. We were taught to think for ourselves and look deeper. I often checked out books from the library to seek a deeper knowledge of things they only touched on in school. Lots of kids I knew did the same. If I let my kids go to public school, you can bet that I will be reading their textbooks very closely so I can point out inaccuracies and make sure that my kids know both sides of a story and are able to THINK for themselves and not just believe something because they are told it is so. My kids will not be indoctrinated. PARENTS are the greatest influence on a child, no matter what the liberals wold have you beleive. If they try to teach my kid something that is not correct, my kid will know to speak up and that mommy has her back. I'll go to the school myself and point out the errors and bias I find. I find grammatical errors in English textbooks! My English teachers loved me for that. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Kitty, What a great contribution! Certainly none could argue with your point that parents' involvement in their children's learning is of great benefit to our children, and all of our futures. As well, your point that textbooks often contain errors. (Actually that whole textbook cartel is an interesting study of potential anti-trust litigation, eh?) Though, your Greneda story is quite remarkable. I have to admit that I'm glad that your teacher wasn't such an egomaniac that you were punished for dissent. And, that you were able to educate your fellow students. Unfortunately, your teacher was not alone in his misconceptions about the US's efforts to thwart communism elsewhere in the Caribbean and South America. That whole period against communist expansion is perhaps the least understood aspect of US Foreign Policy in the whole of our nation's history. It boggles the mind how many fallacies exist about the Nicaraguan Sandanistas, the link to Fidel and the USSR. It all comes back to Reagan's Policy of Containment, and the fact that socialism and capitalism are contradictory, and wholly incompatible ideologies if growth and progress are the ultimate objectives. Freedom and oppression are mutually exclusive. I too recall the social experimentation initiatives of the 1970s & 1980s. If one looks over the list from the Naked Communist, it's impossible not the recognize the links between the outlined Communist goals of the early 60s and the social initiatives implemented in the 70s & 80s. Criminies, Madonna did for promiscuity what Martin Luther King, Jr. did for race relations in this country. Certainly two opposite ends of the spectrum of desireablity, though the extend of their individual influences is beyond question. | | | | | | | Creditbad credit Financingbad credit fastyourtr.com | add comment | | | |
| 6. Adoniah (4166)
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3 years ago
| | I have been comparing this Bailout to Chavez's Nationalizing everything and taking ownership of all large companies and oil production and the Banks etc. in his country. This is what Congress is in the process of doing in the US. They will own the Banks, AIG, GM, and some of the States or parts of them. Americans are idiots for not seeing what they are doing. This is in fact worse than socialism it is communism. They will eventually have total control over pricing, interest rates, product production, wages, and stocks. All of our private information will be at someone's fingertips at all times. They won't have to insert a microchip under our skin. They will have it, because they will have total control of everything. We will not be able to change jobs or get a better education without someone's permission. I believe this is coming soon unless we find a way to stop them before it is too late!!! Shalom~Adoniah | | | | | | | | | AngryKittyMSV (1913)
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3 years ago
| | Yesterday's headline on the Fox News website was that Chavez has seized control of the seaports and airstrips in the of municipalities where the local authorities were speaking out against his communism. Where local politicians were considering running against him in elections, the main sources for income to those areas has been seized by the government. Regular Venezuelans are pissed. I can likely locate and POM a link to anyoen who wants to see. I just can't paste in discussions until I do 200 or so posts more. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Kitty, It troubles me that I fully expect that in the near future (if it isn't already happening behind closed doors) that we'll be asked by certain of the Venezuelian Peoples to help rescue them from the Chavez's tyrannical oppression. If not from inside of VZ, then certainly by its neighbors. This is particularly disturbing because Russia is massaging public perceptions in the region. After all the glowing support of Chavez by the US media it will be difficult to muster popular support to put a stop the Chavez' expansionist, military-backed objectives. It's very troubling actually. I hope beyond hope that I'm wrong. Though, history suggests otherwise. | | | | Adoniah (4166)
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3 years ago
| | Yes Venezuela is going to ask us to save them from tyranny. Who then is going to save us when it happens here in a short time. We are following the same downhill path. Shalom | | | | | | | 3 Free Credit Scores Get All 3 Credit Scores, It's Fast - Easy & Free! Check Online Now. www.debt-tips.com | add comment | | | |
| 7. kennyrose (5047)
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3 years ago
| | I think Barack Obama and his liberal administration in the first sixty days proved to the American people they completly intend to take over our government and the people of the United States. 335,000 Americans went to the world net daily site and signed the eligibility petition to force Barack Obama to unlock his birth certificate and collage financial records, the people that signed the world net daily petition when a step pass talking about what all is wrong with this present administration they are attempting to have some thing done about it. In cities all across the Untied States the pass number of weeks people have showed up in mob numbers demanding accountability for the vast miss use of our tax dollars. Emailing,phone calls,sending tea bags in the mail to representatives all has fell upon deft ears,you are being completely tuned out. The Americans that go out to the highways and byways of American will make a real different,all the griping and compaining will have no effect on these people in office the American people are their servants and they are the masters. The Americans that attend tea parties all across American will help make the different, griping and complaint has no power what so ever. Our county is under a communist take over sadly most American are either not aware or they think so little of the freedom their fathers,grand father,great grand father fought and died for. A march 0f 300 million American demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to hold office of president of the United States with out question this alone will void every bill Obama has signed in to law because he is not an American citizen,proof is his three legal defense teams helping him keep his so called Honolulu Hawaii birth certificate under lock and key,what would be the point other then he was not born in the United States of American and for that reason he is not eligible to hold office of the president of the United States of American. It is like this, Christmas time parents expect Santa to be at the mall expecting Santa to visit with their kid's instead the mall manager has Donal Duck,Barack Obama is acting as president in defiance of the United States constitution would you rather mail a tea bag that goes directly in to the garage can or march on Washington D.C. in demand of Obama's eligibility proof to hold office of president of the United States of American? We have two choice one complain or we march on Washington D.C. and call Barack Obama's hand while we still have some freedom left. | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Rose, I understand the rally for action. However, as we've all learned from this nightmarish election, action without an organized, well-laid plan is absolutley NOT better -- it is just change for change's sake. Orly Taitz is on an essential path, with the potential to unravel much of what has taken place. However, that is one strategy, for one battle. Leaving much to be accomplished on other fronts. The growing number of states reasserting their 9th & 10th amendment rights is another front. Pursuing the pending legal battle over who knew what, and when is yet another front. You're right, if Orly wins then we can release a huge sigh of relief. However, if she wins, then the really hard work will be just beginning. So, while it is critical to keep supporting Orly and spreading the news of the merit of the case, we also need to recogize that that is just one step. A critical first step? Absolutely! Though, just the first of many to follow. So, keep up the good fight, Rose! | | | | Adoniah (4166)
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3 years ago
| | Another big step would be for the States to refuse the Stimulus money. It would be one less chance for "Big Gov." to get control over them. Once a state becomes dependant on the money, they will not have money to fund various programs the next year. Then they will be the "bad guys" for not having the services for their residents. Shalom | | | | | | | Local Debt Management Find Debt Management Near You. See Actual Customer Reviews! Local.com | add comment | | | |
| 8. tulipstrader (1026)
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3 years ago
| | capitalism and communism are brothers. they are out to fool people that they are different. it was created to divide humanity, so that a few can live in luxury while others toil hard to make ends meet. just look at who controls the system in both places. and who lives in luxury while others are suffering? these conspiracy theories are just the creation of media to divert the attention of masses. | | | | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Tulipstrader, The tempation to roll ones eyeballs and exclaim "What?", is all to easy when reacting to your response. Of course, to do so would gloss over the opportunity to REALLY think about what you have said here. If I'm understanding you, you're suggesting that both systems are identical in their ultimate, translucent (not transparent) goals, as maintained by those in power as well as those who seek, and/or are potentially poised to be in a position to attain power, right? Is that what you are suggesting? If so, I agree to the point of the ultimate outcome. If what you say is true, then at least capitalism is honest, and bolsters the free rise and fall among the defined economic classes based on merit, whereas Communism is the ultimate deception. | | | | tulipstrader (1026)
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3 years ago
| | both are as deceptive as the other. for capitalism to its better, it needs an opponent. so the need for communism. if you look into the history behind communism, you will see that capitalists were behind the whole idea. Karl Marx never worked in his whole life, spent most of his life reading at Library. He was funded by industrialist Frederick Engels. If you seek more information, read eveything without looking at it thru any colored glasses you may reach the truth. may be that is different from mine, but you will know why things are the way they are. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Tulipstrader, If you are suggesting that the two ideologies are symbiotic, then I wholeheartedly disagree. If anything I would deem communism as parasitic. It cannot exist independently, i.e. on it's own, without capitalism as a diametric counterpart, because it defies Human nature. However, capitalism can and has existed without a diametric counterpart throughout most of Human history because it is harmonious with mankinds better and worst characteristics. Would you please expound on your statement below? I'm not understanding your intent. Thank you. "for capitalism to its better, it needs an opponent" | | | | | | | Mutual Fund Invest In Money Market Mutual Funds. See Exclusive Online Offers Today. firstcountybank.com | add comment | | | |
| | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Greeneagle, It's nice to visit with you again. Interesting answer. I know from other of your responses that you typically offer a valuable perspective. So, if I may, what do you see is the link between communism and Islam or Muslim nations? And, do you believe that communism is dead? | | | | Greeneagle24 (3710)
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3 years ago
| | Because some people feel weird about him being connected from his Muslim roots that they will think of anything. | | | | ladyluna (2495)
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3 years ago
| | Thanks for clearing up your perspective, Greeneagle. | | | | flowerchilde (8074)
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3 years ago
| | ..I found it interesting to learn that the first (middle east) terrorists were trained by Fidel Castro.. there's other connections too, between the old communists and the training terrorists received.. (Some in the history of Iraq also if I'm remembering correctly(?) | | | | | | | Top Rated Mutual Funds 1. Find Top Performing Mutual Funds. 2. Invest and Become Wealthy, Now! ssgaFunds.com/MutualFunds | add comment | | | |
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