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myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian 3 years ago

when President Obama spoke at Georgetown University. For some reason I can't paste the link to the article here but they claim it was so that the name of Christ wouldn't be seen out of context.

Does this scare anyone else besides me? Can you think of any reason why the Prez would want it covered other then the beginning of oppression of Christianity? Or do you think I'm being an alarmist moron?




 

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1. myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19613)   ranked 71 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

That would scare me, but I am not surprised. Obama is not really a Christian and neither were the men and women he chose for his advisers or cabinet. And many of his policies like having volunteers, forbid helping anyone who or any thing that is of a religious nature. You are not being an alarmist. I think the persecution that happens in the Sudan, India, and other Asian countries is going to come here to America. The oppression has started and they hope that since Christians will have to pay themselves, that we will soon run out of money and be unable to help. They did not realize that persecution makes us grow stronger and attracts more converts.
And we all help each other.
So they will lose and Obama and his minions will soon realize that.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

You are right--when I heard about that and then read it, it just strengthened my resolve to honor Christ. I wonder if this is the beginning of the end times?


myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19613)   ranked 71 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

We suppose Mission churches in Sudan where there is a lot of persecution and instead of losing members, they are gaining them. So persecution has does not have the effect that the ungodly would like. They think by making it hard, that we will give up, but we have a sure hope in Jesus Christ our Lord and a mansion waiting in Heaven for each one of us.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

That is the ultimate triumph of Christ--whenever believers have been persecuted, love for God grew and flourished.

I'm in tears right now, had to take a break, I'm watching the 1927 silent film "The King of Kings" by Cecil B. DeMille. What a powerful film! I fled to my computer and yours was the first message listed in my email. God is so good to us.

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2. myLot reputation of 67/100. krissy32 (170)   3 years ago

I don't know what to make of this latest news, but I sure hope it is not true as that would insult just about any person of faith whether Christian or Muslim. Muslims honor and revere Jesus as a Prophet of God and Christians honor Him as their Savior and pathway to God, but its all semantics anyway. Anyway,the three major faiths all believe and pray to One God, and to take away people's faith is just wrong on so many levels.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

I'm glad you said that and that many people will read your words. Islam does recognize Jesus, people in my country have been taught the past 8 years to think Islam is a religion of hate. They don't read the Koran--I've read a little but not all--and they don't understand the basics of the religion, which has so much in common with Christianity.

There are people saying that our President is a Muslim--then why would he want the name of Jesus covered? I think it's something more sinister than anyone can imagine and I hope I'm wrong.


myLot reputation of 67/100. krissy32 (170)  3 years ago

I guess I forgot to mention the fact that I am an American as well. People often assume that just because someone is a Muslim that they must be from another country. Its all good, though. I get this a lot in my town, since I am the only Muslim revert in town besides the children.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. muscles4me (11361)   3 years ago

We need to face the fact that day by day the world is becoming evil. I am alarmed for the state of our nation also. Once when I was at work a regular customer (who happened to be someoen I knew before working at this place) was upset about some family issues and she and I were looking for a product for her. I happened to say, Sue(not her real name) I'll say a prayer for you and remember Jesus is by your side. When this customer left I really got in trouble. I was written up also. I was told not to mention God, Jesus or ptayer while at work. I will not stop though. I wish I knew more of this Georgetown University issue. Peaceout and blessings!


myLot reputation of 67/100. krissy32 (170)  3 years ago

That is so wrong, there is the Constitution to consider, everyone has a right to speak about whatever they wish, but unfortunately employers have a right to set whatever rules they want in the workplace, even if they are in conflict with freedom of speech. Stinks and I wish it were not so, but it is what it is. I hope you were able to find alternative employment without too much difficulty.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

I checked your profile, figuring I'd find you in California or somewhere--but Missouri?! You can't mention Jesus in Missouri?!! Man, I thought that was Bible Belt country!

I spent 28 years in Arizona and watched the ACLU and other groups beat down any form of religious expression. When I left, 2 years ago, church bells were silent, nativities weren't allowed on public property, you couldn't display religious art in a public window, etc. Muslims could broadcast their call to worship (which is quite beautiful) 5 times a day but a Christian church could be sued for ringing their bells because they might offend someone.

I'm in Ohio now and it's like going back to my childhood. Billboards on the freeway have the ten commandments, rail against abortion (and for it), church bells ring the hour and play hymns, the nativity is displayed at Christmas in public and the Ten Commandments grace the lawn of our courthouse. I feel safe here.

You're right, the world is becoming evil and our nation is being destroyed. It's no longer freedom of religion, it's becoming a tool to destroy Christianity because let's face it, Christianity is the only religion under attack. Let's pray for a quick conclusion.

I think your employer violated your rights when he punished you for speaking privately to your friend. Look into it and if you can, strike a blow for freedom.

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4. myLot reputation of 91/100. ddhawkins63 (371)   ranked 421 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

I have said it before and I will say it again. I am not sure why people find these types of actions from Obama so suprising. He did after all, agree that we should allow the mass murder of partially born babies so why would anyone think that this man would have any Christian morals at all. He is going to destroy everything that America stands for and those who voted for him are just as responsible


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

His stand on partial birth murder is what swayed me to vote for McCain. I don't care how "cool" he is, how nice he is, or how well he speaks--he doesn't care if babies are murdered. He scares me and the day he was elected I cried because I knew the country would go downhill even farther.


myLot reputation of 91/100. ddhawkins63 (371)   ranked 421 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

Yes, the country is in for a rude awakening. All the money that Obama is spending on the supposed rebates is going to cost someone somewhere majorly as well. Those babies that he hasn't succeeded in killing with partial birth abortions will be left to pay for all of this crap that Obama is pulling as well. Our little grandchildren and their children will be the ones who pay the highest price for the voters choice in this last election.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

What is the reasoning behind partial birth abortion, anyway? Why not just let the child be born and put up for adoption? It makes no sense to me to let a child go through the birth canal only to kill it in such a barbaric way. I've not been able to find any good reasons for this, aside from the fact that it is just legalized infanticide. Do you know?


myLot reputation of 91/100. ddhawkins63 (371)   ranked 421 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

Honestly, I couldn't begin to tell you. All I know is that it is sick and disgusting. It is supposed to be meant for extreme cases, but I know of at least one case that was done within my family unit because, to me it appears, it was just more convenient to not have the baby. It broke my heart and still does. Honestly it just angers me beyond anything that I can even state. There is no good reason for this to happen. Maybe we should ask Obama the reason he would see fit to allow this to happen :-)

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5. myLot reputation of 83/100. Aussies2007 (3394)   ranked 1,812 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

The church just want every bit of propaganda it can get to justify its existence in this day and age.

Since when not publishing something is oppression?

And what is there to be alarm about?
What can we... mere mortals... ever do to hurt our mighty God?
Does he not have the power over us all? Including the planet?
What are you scare off?

It is actually quite funny when you talk about the oppression of Christianity...
When Christianity has done nothing else for 2000 years... but to oppress other religions in forcing them to convert to Christianity. And when they refused... they were murdered. lol



myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

Your last point is a favorite of those who are against any form of religion. Those days are done, they were wrong, and I hope those sick monsters who did those things have been somehow punished in the afterlife.

No, mere mortals can't harm God. But when they cover up the name of my Savior in the presence of my president, I think of George Orwell's and Ayn Rand's novels of the bleak future. I can see it starting and I don't want my kids to deal with that. The American people are asleep, they are sheep that have fallen in love with the wolf.

I know I shouldn't worry. But these past 4 months have really scared me. America is headed downhill, fast.


myLot reputation of 83/100. Aussies2007 (3394)   ranked 1,812 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

You have been going down hill since 1990.

1)The rich American oil companies were screwing Saddam Hussein.
2)Saddam Hussein retaliates by invading Kuwait.
3)George Bush Senior declare war and spend billions to liberate Kuwait... but make the major blunder of not removing Saddam Hussein from power when he has the chance to do so.
4)Terrorism start as a result.
5)Ten years go by... and George Bush becomes president.
6)As a result of another Bush in power... 9/11 happens.
7)Bush launch another war in Irak at a cost of trillions.
8)Terrorism escalate world wide.
9)As a result... countries around the world are forced to spend billions on security against terrorism.

And you wonder why we have a world financial crisis?
The world has spent all its money fighting terrorism for almost 10 years.
Those trillion amongst trillion went down a big drain pipe... instead of contributing to the economy and productivity.

And we have two men to thanks for this.
George Bush senior and his son George Bush.
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6. myLot reputation of 77/100. coolcoder (2038)   ranked 245 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

Obama is incredibly hypocritical and arrogant. I hate tell him--actually, I don't hate to tell him, so here goes--but Christians already have a Messiah. We don't need another one.
Is it too soon to start thinking about impeaching him?


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

I would like to give him a chance because I'm not sure whether he has no idea what he's doing or if he does and he's trying to destroy the country. I think he should have an advisor that knows the Constitution and can stop him from violating it.

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7. myLot reputation of 62/100. chaijudin (433)   ranked 142 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

am scare dude , real scare , beside i am not ready for the doom day but what can we do?


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

We can fight! We can protest as we did on April 15 and insist the government be returned to us. Our Constitution says our government is "of the people, by the people and for the people", not for the elite who want to run our lives. We need to take back our country and I think we have a good start. In one way, Obama is good for us because his actions are getting us off our butts and opening our eyes.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. SomeCowgirl (14319)   ranked 34 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

That is kind of scary. Where did you get the article from? I know you said you can't post the link but maybe you can now and if not you can provide the news station that covered it. I hope that Obama isn't trying to oppress christianity.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

http://news.aol.com/polit...

There! I finally was able to paste it here! They claim they want a standard presidential background but I'm not sure that's the reason.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 83 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

i wonder what pro obama people would make as an excuse for this action or decision of obama. this is the worst mistake he has done so far. and i wonder when will we be able to see a stop on this ridiculous things that obama is making so far. if only those mistakes are few and far in between we could still understand but with these mistakes so close to the last one. it is just unbelievable .


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

They stated that they wanted them covered so that they could have a "presidential background". Before that, they said they didn't want the symbols misrepresented by the presence of the president. They'll think of another reason soon, I'll bet.

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10. myLot reputation of 74/100. goldeneagle (5503)   ranked 181 out of 1,856 in christian   3 years ago

No...your assessment is actually very accurate. Obama is a muslim, so naturally, he is going to start to oppress Christianity. His plan to move America towards socialism has already begun, so he is now going to start the plan to move the nation towards Islam...


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 17 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

I wasn't aware that he was a Muslim, he's been attending a Christian church for twenty years. But I wouldn't be surprised.


myLot reputation of 74/100. goldeneagle (5503)   ranked 181 out of 1,856 in christian  3 years ago

He "joined" that church because he knew he had less of a chance of getting to where he wanted to be if he was openly a muslim. The so-called "church" he has been a member of for so long preaches a racist message...not a Christian one, so it is easy for him to say to cover all references to Jesus, because he doesn't believe in Jesus...he is a muslim who is a "member" of a racist church...

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