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myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590) 3 years ago

I just read about the guy in Australia that was found dead after more than 30 nails were shot into his head. Here's the story if you want to follow it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk...

I cannot believe this! In case you are not familiar with it, nail guns work either with an air compressor or with blank cartridges.
The former is most likely what was used but even still, look at the x-ray and imagine what kind of insane individual would amuse himself doing this incredible deed!


REALLY shot in the head
 

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1. myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2226)   ranked 3,658 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

dang!!!!
that is messed up!
I would venture to say that it was someone that the victim knew possibly knew pretty well
that many nails to the head?
I dunno looks pretty personal to me
someone was pretty pissed off at him


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

"Pretty pissed" seems like an understatement. Yeah, it must have been quite personal. All the details, like being rolled into a carpet and tucking it in so neatly sounds like the murderer was really motivated. This is an incredible act for the books.


myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2226)   ranked 3,658 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

whoever it was either wasnt smart enough to totally get rid of the body (chop up, burn,etc) OR the were too close to the victim to do something like that
its one thing to be pissed enough to kill them but its something totally different to hack them up or burn the body
the way the carefully wrapped the body and neatly tucked the ends of the rug shows they at least had some respect


myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Could have been an accident in that case. Maybe those nails were carpet tacks?


myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2226)   ranked 3,658 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

this was no accident!
these were 3 inch nails
these were not little carpet tacks
and its not like there was one or two of them
seriously! did you see how many there were on the X-ray?


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

are you kidding, jazz?

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

You could also say someone was being extremely literal when saying, "I'm gonna nail you!" Some people just don't understand the word "overkill".

I've seen stories on TV about people being stabbed over 100 times, so this really doesn't surprise me. Some deranged people just go completely beserk and lose it, completely.

All I can say is, this guy must have died very quickly and or that, I'm happy for him.

I know we shouldn't be laughing or even getting any amusement out of this, out of respect for this poor soul (unless he was a really, really bad person), but I suppose that's human nature. Laughter sometimes keeps us from crying.


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Oops, sorry, "berserk", not "beserk". My bad!


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Oops, sorry again. "and for that" not "and or that". Maybe I should just give up for awhile, huh? blink


myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

You saying that about laughter, reminds me of the Daily Mail's report on the body that was found in bits, scattered across 3 counties in the UK. They found everything except the hands - which were necessary to do a positive ID.

A police spokesman said, (and I do NOT make this up): "We've done all we can, including a fingertip search ..."


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Now THAT I'd HAVE to laugh at! I just got a mental image of these guys down on all fours, gingerly touching everything with their fingertips. Aren't we bad?
lol


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

You know, mental, truth is that it's amazing the number of stories we hear about head wounds and survival, so sadly enough, the victim didn't necessarily die quickly. On the other hand, it seems much more "natural" to stab someone, I mean the physical act, than to hammer someone with a tool like a nail gun. They are NOT the handiest thing going! This is an amazing crime.


myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

It makes Quentin Tarantino look like a Disney film!

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3. myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

This looks like a gangland killing - we used to have the Tong gangs in London and some of the things they did to each other were very much "The Kray Twins, but on a REALLY good day." In other words, if you were due a quick garrotting and a place under the M5 flyover, you counted your blessings and yelled "Hallelulah"

Probably drugs related, and I dare say the nail gun aspect was torture unto death.

Horrible, but that's what gangland culture is all about - and those in it are totally evil. They have to be, to survive.

If not gang warfare, then it could have been someone high on drugs, wanting to recreate the DIY warehouse scene in Final Destination 2.

When I saw that, I remember saying, "Hm. 10/10 for originality, but 0/10 for plausibility." Guess I was wrong.


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Originality would be to stab a person to death with an icesickle. "No murder weapon was found, but a puddle of water was located just underneath the wound." Of course, this would have to take place in the dead of winter.

I could have also been an insanely jealous wife, husband of someone this guy was cheating with, or a jealous lover. Maybe this guy cheated on his wife just one too many times and she just lost it!


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6156)   ranked 83 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Geez, I mean "IT" could have been an insanely jealous wife. Not "I". No, I'm not the murderin' kind, although I've had fantasies at times. thumbup


myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

I'm going with the loony wife theory. Probably PMS.

"Look, I bought you a nail gun for Christmas, and you still can't be bothered to put the shelves up. What do you mean, do it myself then? You wanna see how good I can be with a nail gun? Do ya? DO YA?!"


myLot reputation of 88/100. jazzsue58 (1695)   ranked 2,536 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

PS Watch your backs when MW is around, folks.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

The two of you sound pretty darn creative yourselves. Kinda makes me want to keep a distance lest I upset anyone lol

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4. myLot reputation of 38/100. tzaddi (333)   3 years ago

that's very unbelievable..the killer must be insane and he maybe so mad at the victim that he shot more than 30 nails at the head of the victim..it must be very painful for the victim to suffer those nail shots..we must pray for the victim and especially we must pray for the murderer..for he needs it the most..


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

I think they're both beyond hope.

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5. myLot reputation of 84/100. bournecaindelta (2153)   ranked 2,251 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

Ouch. Must have hurt. He must have been pretty much alive to face the first ten or so nails so it must have been really hurting. It's just strange that people o to such extents to express their anger/ frustration etc. The X ray shows how badly he must have been put to.

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myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Certainly not the kind of thing I would look forward to experiencing!

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. scheng1 (3212)   ranked 5,852 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

This guy must have suffered a lot before dying. I wonder how long he takes to die? Hope he dies from the first nail, cannot imagine him having to suffer nails after nails getting into his head.
Hopefully he is unconscious. It is very cruel to make anyone suffer like that. I hope God will punish the person who did that to him.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

It definitely challenged MY imagination. Just looking at the xray makes me wonder about the mental state of the person (?) that did this.


myLot reputation of 99/100. scheng1 (3212)   ranked 5,852 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

Hi Mechanic, I cannot imagine anyone doing this. That person must have hated the victim very much. Or else he or she is possessed by the devil.
I do not even have the courage to kill a chicken, much less to use nail gun to kill people. Hopefully the police can catch the murderer, even if the police does not, let God punishes the person.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Well, I suppose a person would have to wait and see how he/she would react at a given time. I don't spend any time thinking of things like these and I saw enough action, blood and guts when I was in the military. This murder really impresses me.

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7. myLot reputation of 72/100. jkatmaou (163)   ranked 5,775 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

i wouldn't want anyone dead, thank you very much. and this deed is so horrifying. only someone totally distrubed will do such a thing. i think that no matter how angry you are, at one point, that anger must have abated some to let you realize what you're doing, right?


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

I think I know how you feel. I was astonished when I read it and saw the xray. You'd think the anger would diminish, but then maybe the victim kept living through this ferocious attack and the other got even angrier.


myLot reputation of 72/100. jkatmaou (163)   ranked 5,775 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

in that case, note to self, if someone tries to kill me and i don't die immediately, play dead. :)

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8. myLot reputation of 90/100. sanuanu (4141)   ranked 738 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

Nail gun. ooooutchhhhhh.

They must have had history between them that's the reason why he was murdered that brutally.

For first hand, I don't want to make anyone dead so, the second thing is not that important as I am not that wicked.

may be my worst enemy should get that kind of death but I cna't do that to him. No chance my friend.


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

Likewise! I can't imagine myself doing anything like that.

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9. globetrotter1 (84)   ranked 21,279 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago


The killer must have just hated this guy so much, for whatever reason. I think the number of nails is just a sort of ' physical' manifestation' of the extent of his hate. It seems like a far out crime and the majority of people will never ever come close to feeling that kind of hate. BUT I only have to imagine the worst possible thing which could happen to me...someone would murder one of my children...I think my grief and rage could very easily be transferred to that person via all kinds of turture!


globetrotter1 (84)   ranked 21,279 out of 32,943 in life  3 years ago

meant to say' torture '!


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

I don't even want to think of what I would do if someone hurt one of my children, but even so, this seems far fetched.

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10. myLot reputation of 81/100. veronicalodge12 (137)   ranked 11,988 out of 32,943 in life   3 years ago

I can't believe that either. So, there really is such thing as a saddist? Gosh, maybe these are a bunch of thriller-murder movie fanatics. That is just awful. I can't really answer that question, but my sister and I used to make fun of ourselves throwing funny plots on how to kill someone. Like stripping one's skin, putting vinegar and spices, etc. We usually just have some fun bout it, and never really come to mind it may come to life as that news. God bless to us! Have a great day! ^^


myLot reputation of 86/100. mechanicNOT62 (1590)  3 years ago

It's true that humans can come up with extreme ways to torture, like the drug traffickers in Scarface, that hung the one guy and cut him to pieces with a chain saw. It's the kind of thing that really requires a strong stomach and a dead brain.

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