Bush vs. Gore Attorneys Sue to Halt Prop 8  

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I agree!
Annie

Well, I've never pretended to be a lawyer or a Constitutional scholar but I think Ted Olson knows what he's talking about, he's argued before the Supreme Court over 50 times. I agree there should be a positive campaign but, in all fairness, have there been anymore incidents like the ones you mentioned and is it fair to judge the whole "movement" by the actions of a few extremists who have gone about it the wrong way? There are always a few that manage to ruin it for the majority.
Annie

Well what happens if it is done by the states and the couple decides to move to a state that does not support it? Will they still be able to get that health insurance from that new job? Equal means the same as everyone else. If my husband and I move to any state in the US we are husband and wife, what would happen to them? And would that be fair that they are considered married in one state but not another? Or what if one ends up in the hospital dying and they need the signiture of the spouse? It is a confusing thing but I think this has to be a federal thing for equal rights to work

"Well what happens if it is done by the states and the couple decides to move to a state that does not support it?"
don't move to that state?

And the "Full Faith and Credit" clause takes care of recognition in other states. that is the only thing the supreme court should rule on.

"Will they still be able to get that health insurance from that new job?"

That is entirely up to the employer and/or the private insurance company involved.

I tend to think something this big should cover the whole country. If a citizen of the U.S. chooses to live in any of the 50 states their marriage should be recognized in all 50. I'm still unsure as to why the people who aren't directly affected should have the right to vote on it. Do you realize if it came up for a vote today there would still be some states where interracial marriage isn't allowed? I think this falls under equal protection under the law.

I know I'll get slammed for this by some of you but I've heard people far more educated on the law and the Constitution than I am who have taken this position. If everything in the Constitution were so clear why would we even NEED judges to interpret it?
Annie

In my opinion we don't need it interpreted. It's written at an 8th grade level, it ain't rocket science and if a dim-wit like me can understand it, ANYONE can. What we use the court for is interpreting laws and situations based on it. If you want to see this as accepted in all 50 states, then they propper way to do it is with a constitutional amendment, plain and simple.

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I think state's rights are great but there are some things that should be uniform if we are to remain the UNITED States and not just 50 independent countries. There are times when people have little choice but to move from one state to another. Federal employees and members of the military would be two good examples. Would it be right for a couple to be married in one state and then have to move to a state where their marriage wouldn't be recognized and possibly they'd lose their benefits as a married couple? Also, how would the income tax laws go? As long as we have a FEDERAL government and a FEDERAL income tax the tax laws and benefits should be the same for all 50 states in my opinion.
Annie

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I know of plenty straight people who have "hopped around" from partner to partner and who don't care to get married. I think it stands to reason that if gays get married there will be some who want to get divorced. Why would they be any different from the rest of us in that way? Some relationships last forever, some don't. Some people work harder at it and stick it out through good and bad and others take it lightly and give up fairly quickly.
Annie

very rare I agrea with you, but this is one of those times....every word of it.

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Some will tell you we aren't a democracy or a "majority rules society". Anyway, I see this as a personal issue and not one that anyone else should vote on.
Annie

The personal religious beliefs of any of the Justices shouldn't have any bearing on how they rule in a case like this.
Annie

So you disagree that Proposition 8 violates the U.S. constitutional guarantee of equal protection and due process? Clearly all attorneys don't agree with these two but they're both very successful and accomplished and are usually on the opposite side but have come together for this case so that tells me something.
Annie