Some questions about child abuse.
By celticeagle
@celticeagle (189793)
Boise, Idaho
May 30, 2009 11:50pm CST
I am wondering if child abuse has always been rather prevalant in this country and we just have the media make it seem more so than afew decades ago? Ofcourse there are more people in the US now days. But is it about the same? Do you think that adults that do this to children are conditioned from childhood or do conditions make the situation happen? And, do you think that we are becoming desensitized to it by the media? I tend to turn the channel sometimes just because the stories are so prevalant and so sorted. Sometimes I can handle it and sometimes I just can't listen to another one. What are your thoughts?
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
31 May 09
I think that child abuse is definatley more covered now than ever before. Changing laws and tougher penalties make for a better news story I guess. I can't handle many stories about child abuse..it tears my heart out. And movies..no way. My friends at work are reading a book a guy wrote about his own childhood and I don't think I could make it through the first chapter. I think it is called " The boy named IT...oh..it's terrible. As far as the adults that abuse children...I have no clue what makes them do what they do. I look at my children and all I want to do is protect them. I can't begin to understand and don't want to. I know that everytime I see a terrible story about an abused child..it makes me hold mine a little tighter.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jun 09
Funny you should mention this book. It is one I try to bring to people's attention. Did you know it is a trilogy? Second one is about his troubled teen years and then the last one is about the man he became. Good reading. Ya, it really brings it home doesn't it?
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Jen-
I've had several students read that book for reports, and each time I have to read through them I just cry. It's such a sad tale, and we have to remember that there are many like that who miss the system, don't get reported, and sadly die from those conditions. Though we hear quite a bit about some of the child abuse, there are other forms of abuse that go almost unknown and do far more damage. Just the other day we heard a dad tell his son in the store "Guess you'll never be a stocker will you". The kid was like 2 or so and knocked something off a shelf at the local store. Sure, to many it seems like an off comment, yet to that child it is emotional abuse and is setting up a pattern for later in life of low self-esteem and self-worth.
Namaste-Anora
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
CE-
I really think that it's just more publicized. We have much more local voices now in concern for child abuse, it hits the media quicker, and we're much more mobile (technologically speaking) then we were let's say one hundred years ago.
I don't think we're becoming desensitized to child abuse, but I do think we still need to do more to help parents and children. Far too often those who were abused later become abusers because they do not learn the coping skills for life to be healthy. Therefore, when life pressures strike, they may fall back on what they learned growing up. I think that education truly helps with this, and is the best way to combat child abuse.
I can understand about not wanting to hear about another sad case, for I often feel the same way. I often do not understand how anyone could hurt a child. And it is not that I do not care, it is that I care so much that I want to run and rescue every child out there and I realize that I cannot.
Namaste-Anora
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 09
I so agree. I just don't listen to the news some days. Just not strong enough to hear about it. We are having rapes on our green belt here right now. A picture of the guy and everything and they still can't find him. I hate it. I love the greenbelt and am paranoid now.
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
3 Jun 09
Even my husband feels that the media at times produces fear that is unwarranted. For example, we had an escaped convict in the area a month ago and they made it sound as if he was breaking and entering every house under the sun. The reality was, he was just running and they caught him running, not breaking and entering. The media has a way of making us paranoid, and that we cannot allow. We must live our lives freely, even it we may be cautious if that makes sense. Namaste-Anora
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
31 May 09
if you study history you will see that child abuse has been around in every country since time began, but it was not always considered child abuse. Different generations have different notions on how to treat children. In the 19th century there were work houses and factories where kids as young as six years old worked along side and adult and did as much as an adult. It was not considered child abuse, it was normal, in fact children were considered little adults.
In the 1950's you heard the expression spare the rod and spoil the child. Spanking were commmon form of punishment for children and it was accepted by society, it was also frowned upon if a parent didn't chastise a child that way. Today try doing that and you lose your kids.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jun 09
Oh yes, I sure have. I understand that. I just wondered if you thought the media had opened the door and make it seem more prevalent than it really is.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Rose-
So true. I think it's that because of media we're hearing more than we did years ago. During the 1800's women were told to put up and shut up, essentially. Portrait of a Lady comes to mind in terms of some of the abuse women went through. And even Dr. Spock later said his "don't spank rule" wasn't all that productive. Balance is key to raising children, though abuse of any form is never the answer.
Namaste-Anora
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I do agree that the media does tend to over do quite a few things. I take news sabbats from time to time when I just can't handle anymore, and they do my soul good. Namaste-Anora
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jun 09
Ya, it just becomes too much at times. One right after another sometimes.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
31 May 09
Nope... I'm so not desensitized. Maybe others are but not me.
I think we hear of it more and it's definition has changed over the years.
Before a lot of bad guys got away with it because what went on behind closed doors stayed behind closed doors. I do think mothers aren't as caring as they once were and since dad's aren't around as much as they were once, Mothers are becoming real B I T C H es.
A while back, mothers went to work, that changed things and so young girls aren't getting the same dynamic and training that they once were. Some aren't getting that tender side we woman are known for.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I do agree that media has done a lot to bring it out of the closed doors, and we're empowering people today to speak up. However, I disagree that mothers are less caring then they once were, and that dads are around less. We're finding a switch in dads today. A great many have taken to working less hours to spend time with family, and even those who work from home as to be there for their children. Since we left the hunter ages, dads are much more able in our current society to enjoy more time with their family and less time in the office. And as a mother I really do think that we are not less caring. Even though mothers now are able to leave the home and work if they so choose, that doesn't mean young girls or even young boys are not getting the upbringing they need. Most working mothers I know would take offense at that statement, because they do a wonderful job of balancing both lives, and their daughters learn to become independent critical thinkers. And most mothers today (save the abusers) are giving their children the tender side of things. And I think many fathers are now beginning to share that with their sons. I know my own husband spends equal time with both our son and daughter, and he focuses quite a bit on the emotional intelligence of our children, and works on developing their empathy muscles. (The "tender side" of things).
I think the way to end abuse is to recognize it, educate about it, and educate those parents who may be abusers on how to cope with life. Just recently our news station did a special on how the economy was showing a rise in child abuse cases, from very average white collar middle income families. The loss of a job, etc was leading to tense times, and these parents did not have the coping skills necessary to deal with the stress, and children as well. The parents interviewed on the show were now in classes helping them to learn how to cope with children during times of stress. I think this could benefit parents up front so they could learn how to avoid abuse.
Namaste-Anora
@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Jun 09
WOW! I so agree. What ever happened to the Waltons kind of life? The tender side seems to be gone. Some of the things young girls do in school now days is very alarming.
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I do think mothers aren't as caring as they once were and since dad's aren't around as much as they were once, Mothers are becoming real B I T C H es.
That is what was written in your original response, I don't think I read it wrong. It just seems you've now given slightly more contemplation to the situation, yet still believe we are somehow less caring as mothers, and that fathers spend less time at home. In times past fathers were not even around very often. They were off hunting (in early days), off at the office in later generations, and only in the past 5 years or so have we've seen a market change in more dads trying to work from their home in order to spend more time raising their children, or working less hours. Mothers do work, some out of necessity and others out of desire, but they do balance and those sons and daughters are still being raised to be tender.
I think what was written prior is a gross over-simplification of the issue. I agreed that media has a lot to do with the coverage, and I agree that education is the solution. To say broken homes is the only cause is to say that every single parent out there is an abuser, and that is a misleading statement.
I do hope, as others have said already that this issue is soon healed in our nation.
Namaste-Anora

@xoxcharityxox (567)
• United States
31 May 09
Honestly from older people I know who have been abused as children I'd say that now it's taken care if in a more effective and better manner then it used to be. A lady I know who is 60 years old was raped by her father growing up, beaten, caught a man murdering her friend, and it took 12 years for them to even put her father in jail. They used to turn thier heads to what happened inside people's homes. now they do what they can to protect children and anyone else who is harmed. I think it's gotten a lot better over the years. We just like you said have more media outlets and more knowledge of what is happening around us. I can't say whether or not people are desensitized to it because I know it still gets to me anytime I hear of someone being harmed.

@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
3 Jun 09
It is a sad state of affairs. I agree with you. I think the media makes it all more of a nightmare than it was originally.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Charity-
What's sad today is that so much abuse goes unnoticed because it is not physical. Not that I condone any abuse, but emotional abuse is much more subversive, much more damaging, and takes much longer to recover from. I'm sorry the woman you know went through all of that. I do feel our laws are not as they should be were abuse is concerned.
Namaste-Anora
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