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myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting6 months ago

Recently I was involved in a conversation with a friend who admits she reads her child's diary and mail. I was so amazed. Her thinking was that she doesn't have as close of a relationship wih her kids as she would like so this is how she "gets to know" them. I was so shocked. For me it was a trust issue. I never read anything of theirs unless they asked me to share it with them. I always felt like it was a breech of trust even though they were my children and I "had the right" to read anything in my house. I chose to build the trust factor... What do you think? Is it wrong or fair to read your kid's stuff??

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 87/100. smartie0317 (1128)   ranked 4,616 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

Not a parent, but I have worked with kids and will become a teacher in 11 more months. So, I hope my opinion counts. I don't agree with reading everything your child gets or always reading their diary, but I think it's ok to do it sometimes. For example, if you have problems with your spouse and all of a sudden they start writing to your child. I would read it. Just to make sure the parent isn't lieing or bad mouthing me. When parents divorce, it can get ugly. Or if ym future child starting getting mail from a strange source, or say a credit card bill at a young age, I would read it. I would only read their diary if I felt they were in trouble with drugs or alcohol.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

Of course your opinion still counts!! I agree with you for the most part. I think it would be a huge head's up if my young child began getting any sort of mail from a strange source, including credit cards. I would not open it until I asked them about the source! If I ever felt like there was reason for alarm I would be asking them tons of questions for them too!:) Thanks for your response!

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4857)   ranked 148 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

I do believe it is fair to read a child's diary and mail. Some parents just don't have that bond with their child, no matter how hard they try and no matter how much they want their child to talk to them. Sometimes that's just how it goes. It is the parent's responsiblity to know what's going on in the child's life, and to intervene if there is a problem, that's my stand anyways. I wouldn't question it if a parent said they were reading their child's diary.

I personally do not go snooping through my kid's stuff, but if they leave a notebook on the kitchen table and walk away from it, I might pick it up and flip through it. I haven't ever found anything other than some doodles, but I still look.

Yes, I open the mail too.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

Would it be okay if they picked up your notes laying on the table and looked through it? I know if they are smaller that is one thing, but when do they get old enough to have their own privacy? I know there are times parents are concerned if there are huge swings in behavior and stuff like that...Would they ever be able to become responsible enough to prove that to you as their parent?


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4857)   ranked 148 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I don't view children as small adults. I view them as children who need to be guided through life into adulthood. How can we do that if we don't know what's going on in their lives, and expect them to just tell us everything?

What if your 13 year old daughter is kissing her boyfriend at school? What if she's keeping that from you? Don't you want to know about this? Are you just going to sit back and wait for her to tell you she's sexually active... or worse yet... that she's pregnant?

On the other hand, you could read it in her diary, know what is going on in her life, and discuss these things with her so she fully understands the gravity of particular actions.

How we raise our children, and how we treat them is up to each individual parent. You want to be your child's friend and allow them full privacy... that's your choice.

I realize we don't live in a perfect world, and peer pressure is a powerful motivator. So I want to know exactly what's going on in my child's life, and I am not going to trust that my child tells me everything, because I know for a fact I didn't tell my parents everything!


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I do understand what you are saying, however, if my child does not trust me because I went through her stuff uninvited she not only won't tell me things, but she'll also make sure to hide her diary and keep things like that hidden at school or somewhere that I cannot retrieve it, making the matter worse. I still haveto vote for the trust issue... the other things will come to light in major behavior swings or moodiness or withdrawal... keeping up with where your kids are and who they are hanging with come fro being with them not simply reading a diary it's a moment by moment adventure....


myLot reputation of 96/100. katsmeow1213 (4857)   ranked 148 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

As I said, I'm not going to purposely snoop through my child's belongings, unless I have good reason to. If my child starts acting strange, then yes, I'll start pulling books out of their book shelf and flip through them.

I'm saying if my child leaves something sitting out in the open, I'll flip through it. I won't make a huge deal out of everything I read, unless I feel it needs attention.

I think this is okay, and this is how I choose to raise my kids.

I know for a fact that no matter how much my kids trust me, and vice versa, they won't tell me every tiny detail of their lives. They're still very young right now, but anytime I turn my back they're doing something I told them not to do. It's in a child's nature to do things like this. It's also in a teenager's nature to do things their parents may not approve of, and then not tell the parents. I for one would prefer to know about it and be the judge as to whether I should intervene or not.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

What you say is true... that's why we kept things public... they did not have a phone in their room, nor a tv, nor a computer.. they were not allowed to live separately from the family.... helps prevent a lot!

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. SnowWhiteAndSeven (228)   ranked 1,400 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

No, I never did read my childrens' mail. To get respect, you have to give it. It worked pretty well for me! My daughter used to share a letter with me now and then. Like one when a (mean) boyfriend broke up with her. Of course, I wanted to deck the guy.

Anyway, even if I'd been suspicious of something, I would have asked to see the letter, not just taken it.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I am with you there Snow White.... agree completely that to get respect you must give it. I used this philosophy in teaching school too and it worked there as well as in my home. My children and even my students always showed me a high level of respect....:)


Fatima_1986 (40)   ranked 11,144 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

its not good to don't trust on ur children ... i prefer not to read but as a parents ppl have to moniter their kids too sometimes as kids sometimes don't know wats better or bad for them ... but once they r elder enough to choose good or bad for them u just have to share ur experiences with them n guide them wherever they r wrong or need ur help ...


myLot reputation of 75/100. queenlove (243)   ranked 794 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I feel that as a mother, I shouldnt have to EARN my child's respect. They should respect me because I feel and clothe them, give them everything that they want and need...so I should get respect automatically!
They are a CHILD...when you are under 18, you don't have the priveledges and rights as an adult does. This goes for everything. SO if I choose to go through their stuff, then I have every right to do that in my home.

I am an adult. If the police suspect that I am doing something wrong, they are allowed to search my home for evidence...

So If I suspect that my child is doing something wrong, then I am allowed to search her belongings for evidence. Simple as that.
She is not an adult, and I have all the say because she is not yet mature enough to make decisions that are the best for her well-being and safety.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I have no doubt or question about me, as the parent possessing the right to search anything in my home. However, the police are not going to just come in and search because they have that right, that's an abuse of power and I would actually lose respect for them. It is really a fantasy world that a child will respect you simply because you feed and clothe them.. it just doesn't usualy happen that way! Respect is modeled and learned.


myLot reputation of 92/100. SnowWhiteAndSeven (228)   ranked 1,400 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I understand your viewpoint. . .I am just saying that for me, my attitude seemed to work with my kids. They didn't seem to be afraid to tell me things or confide and it all worked out. I recognize it doesn't for everybody. Thanks for your input.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

yeah, there's no handbook you get when you find out you are going to be a parent!! We all have to figure out how our homes run and what works for us. Actually, each child is so different, we have to treat different (or even similar) situations separately! Thanks....

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4. myLot reputation of 87/100. sjvenden27 (543)   ranked 4,350 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

I think it is wrong to go snooping through your kids personal belongings. It sends a slient message to your child that; you do not trust them, that you do not repect them enough to ask first, and their personal space can be violated at any time while they are living in your home. I believe that if a child is on drugs or is very depressed, and you are a conserned parent that has tried to talk to the child, talked to the school counselor, etc. and still can not find out what is going on, then its a parents responsiblity to find out what is going on.. and if the child does not like the fact that he's/her parents when into their room and started going through everything, may start talking next time, instead of keeping quiet. If you can not respect your child's space, then how can you expect your child to respect your space?


myLot reputation of 75/100. queenlove (243)   ranked 794 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I agree that it is the parents job to find out whats going on, this is why I think this is okay to do.
You sad "How can I expect them to respect my space if I don't respect thiers" Well, thats easy. There is a difference between me and them. I am the parent, the adult...and they are the child. Their personal space is not a right...its a luxury. If they give me reasons to trust, then they dont have to worry about me going through their things.
But I look at it this way.
Would I rather know what my child is up to all the time and save them from dangerous situations?
Or would I rather have my child respect me...but run off and get hurt from the things that I have no knowledge of.

They may not respect me, or think that it is fair, but at least they are safe...and to me thats better.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

We are indeed responsible to keep our kids safe. Part of those responsibilities are that we model and teach trust. When you build character and trust with your kids they will learn trust and respect. It will avoid many situations when you can keep communication open with your children and as long as they trust you... communication will continue.


myLot reputation of 87/100. sjvenden27 (543)   ranked 4,350 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

To add to what she is saying, I understand that I will always have a right to my own space, since I am the parent. A child does not automatically get those rights... Right now my son is three, he doesnt have any privatcy.. but when I am in his room, I still respect it as such.. if I have his room set up a certain way and he would like this toy to go here and that toy to go their instead... I allow him to make that change... Granted it may seems small to most people but to my son it gives him a little control over what is going on in his room.. Its a game of give me take me... if you always take and never give back... meaning the child's space, the will grow to resent that later on... During the teenage years... It wasnt that long ago when I was a teenager... about 15 years ago, my mother would go into my room, and read my diary, go through everything just because she could. It was not because of the fact that I was doing drugs, or anything else that would get her worried enough to go through everything... She just did it.. And it made me feel so small, like I was someone that didnt have any rights, that could be walked on.. etc.. These are not feelings that I want to give my son at an older age.. When I became a mother one of the first things I was taught was that your child will grow up and one day face you on what ever decisions you make now... So make sure that if you had to face your son in the future you can stand by your descision.. and not be one of those parents that say thats just the way it was, or there isnt anything that i can do about it now... ways to get around telling them the truth...

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5. myLot reputation of 75/100. queenlove (243)   ranked 794 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

For some parents, reading their mail and diaries is the only way that they can keep up with what their child is doing.
It does not matter how close you are with your daughter, she is not going to tell you EVERYTHING!
If everyone read their child's diary, whether it is ethical or not, they would learn some things about their kids that would shock them!
I am not defending this or saying that it is right. All I am saying is that doing this, you could help prevent them from making really bad decisions.
What if a child has been chatting online with a strange man and you didn't know about it. By reading about it in her diary, or in her emails...you could put a stop to it before something terrible happens.

Statistics show that 90% of murders among teenagers were due to a situation that the parents knew nothing about and the parents thought that they knew everything about their child.

Besides, I look at it like this. If you are under 18, and you are my child and live in MY house, and you don't pay the bills or contribute to the household...then you don't have the right to privacy. Everything in this house....bedroom, computer, utilities,her clothes, ect. I PAID FOR...so I have the right to monitor it as I please.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

True... on a very shallow level... if we remain very involved with our children and know what they are doing and who they are hanging with it will stop a lot of that. My kids never went to someone's house I did not know or had not met. When they played sports I or a family member was there to watch. I took them where they needed to go.. or where I desired for them to go. I did not send them. Many times they did not get to go somewhere because I did not trust the people hosting the event. In hanging out with my kids and not working 24/7 and making sure that I knew where they were 24/7 I knew what was going on because I was involved with them and they were involved with me. I took them with me everywhere I possibly could. They did not always like that... but that's the way it was... and this kept us all in communication.

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6. w1986114 (80)   ranked 8,175 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

I think parents have no right to read their kids' mails. Until now, I am still an apple of parents' eyes and I've never been mother before, but I can say something on behalf of children on this issue. All children know their parents care so much about them, no matter how treasonous they are, but once they find their well-respected parents read their mails without permission, they may feel their parents didn't give them rudimental trust and evetually lose the confidence in their parents.


myLot reputation of 75/100. queenlove (243)   ranked 794 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I would rather my kids hate me and be alive and safe,...rather than be the cool parent and allow them to hide things and get hurt.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

The funny thing is.. they will be more likely to not write the stuff you are so worried about... still involvement is the best medicine! And trust is the best prevention in my opinion!

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7. myLot reputation of 83/100. onlinerep01 (419)   ranked 5,334 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

Hello,
I will have to say I do read my childrens mail, because of this crazy world that we live in have really sick indivisuals in it. I think there are more crime that goes un noticed by parents because that don't pay attention to what their child/children is up to. You here about grown adult men online seeking out young teen age girls to harm them etc, and the parents never knew that these types of acts are going on. So I read my childrens mail, not to intrude on them but to protect and guide them, because I'm resposible for them.
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myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

I have a level of understanding of what you are saying, however, I did some things that help prevent some of it. For instance, any computer activity was not done off in their room, it was kept and used in a very "family public" place with everyone around. I also sould have definetly done something differently had one of my children recieved some way strange piece of mail. I would not open it until they came home, but I may have had them open it in my presence and ask them to let me see it... if there was some reason for any suspicion. keeping things pubic really helps with a lot of those issues....

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8. myLot reputation of 86/100. Ricki911 (1168)   ranked 3,801 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

Depends.

Like others have said if I feel the child is in danger or abusing alcohol or drugs yes I would read it. But to get to know my child no I wouldnt.

Im turning 21 and my parents read my mail. I dont care since I dont have anything to hide. But it gets annoying when they ask why did you get this or why do you need this sample or coupons.

I think your friend needs to find another way to connect with her kids instead of snooping.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

You see, I figure if you are more connected with the child,you won't have the "need" to snoop. It is a basic trust factor and if they cannot trust you they will hide even the little stuff. If they trust you they will share even the big stuff!

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9. myLot reputation of 70/100. cupkitties (546)   ranked 4,250 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

My children always read their diaries to me right after they write in them if I want to hear it or not. I don't even have to ask. lol

I don't think its fair to read it with out their permission. Of course there are exceptions I would take like if they have given you reason not to trust them and you think they might be in trouble.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

Absolutely if they were in danger, but then there's no gaurantee that it would be found in a diary or notebook if they were. I'm with you my kids continue to tell me all those things I don't even want (or need) to hear... but there is still open communication and that is worth a lot! My son used to come in late at night and plop on the end of my bed and strt talking.. no matter how tired I was... I listened.. and he's still talking to me today!

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10. myLot reputation of 98/100. thebeaddoodler (2765)   ranked 2,066 out of 14,888 in parenting   6 months ago

My children grew up a very long time ago when the world was a safer place. I still think teaching them your standards and ethics and gradually letting go and letting them make decisions will lead to a better relationship with your child whatever age. I never read my childrens' mail, or snooped through their things to find a diary. I tried to give them the respect I expected to get. Yes I am the parent. Yes I was the authority figure, but they had a right to their lives to a certain extent without sharing everything with me.

Maybe some people were so sneaky and devious as teenagers themselves, they just expect their children to do all those thing too. I've personally known a few like that. I feel like that drives the children to even worse behavior.


myLot reputation of 98/100. macdingolinger (1180)   ranked 397 out of 14,888 in parenting  6 months ago

you've made a very good point, we do tend to judge others by our own actions and intents! Thanks for sharing!

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