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| A mother has gone on trial acused of killing two new-born babies she kept secret from her husband then hiding their bodies in a freezer. Skip related content In a case that has gripped France, Veronique Courjault faces a life sentence if found guilty of murder. Judges in Tours will have to decide if she knew what she was doing or was in denial over her pregnancies. She has already spent two and a half years on remand in prison and her family insist she is no danger to society. In 2006 Courjault and her husband Jean-Louis were living in Seoul, South Korea, where he was working as an engineer and spent long periods away from home. His wife and their two sons, aged nine and 11, had gone to France for a summer trip while Jean-Louis stayed behind. He bought fish and went to put it in a downstairs freezer where he then discovered the bodies. Horrified, he alerted the police and was later allowed to fly to France to be with his wife. They held a press conference where they said they were baffled at how the babies had got there. But weeks later DNA tests proved they were the parents and they were arrested. Courjault confessed to police to hiding two pregnancies from her husband in 2002 and 2003, giving birth alone in the bathroom before strangling the babies and putting the bodies in the freezer. She also confessed to killing another newborn when the couple still lived in France in 1999 and disposing of the body in the family fireplace. Courjault told psychologists she had not felt the babies move in her womb during pregnancy. "For me, it was never children, it was a part of me, a prolongation of myself that I killed," she said. Jean-Louis Courjault was cleared of any involvement in a trial earlier this year. He later said: "Society has to admit that not all pregnancies are happy. My wife certainly has a problem of a psychological order." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i really don't know what to say about this, i am speechless, but i do agree with what her husband said, she does have psychological problems and needs help...she will definitely go to jail for this....those poor babies.... | | | | | |
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1. robert67 (1340)
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3 years ago
| | prison will not correct her state of mind, this woman needs help and although she has murdered three people, she should be examined to find out what the cause was then treated accordingly. after treatment she should serve the rest of her sentence in prison, a life term for each of the babies that she murdered. a life is a life and people cannot be free to kill new born babies. however, steps can be taken to ensure that pregnant women are in the right state of mind to look after a baby after giving birth because far too many women just can't cope with motherhood. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | what i couldn't understand was, if she didn't want these babies, why on earth did she get pregnant, she already has 2 children, there is so many ways of contraception these days so there's no excuse not to get pregnant, yes she should be punished, and yes she should suffer her consequences, it seems that she doesn't even have a conscience.... | | | |
robert67 (1340)
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3 years ago
| | that's a good point. her pregnancies could easily have been avoided yet she became pregnant at least twice. the murders appear to be pre meditated so there is a chance that this woman actually gets pleasure out of killing new born babies. she deserves to spend the rest of her life in jail, she should recieve mental health treatment prior to going into jail so that when she is locked up her mind will be in a fit state to cause her to suffer every second of her jail term. | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | she definitely needs help, she's just not right in the head, she KNEW what she was doing, any woman who gets pregnant has a choice whether to have that child or not, she needs to sit back and think about what she's done to her family too, it's an awful thing to happen and them babies died because of her own selfishness, they did not deserve to die the way they did.... | | | |
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2. heathcliff (811)
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3 years ago
| | She definitely needs more help than she would get in regular prison. A long-term care psychological facility, perhaps. I am wary of the husband, though. Did he, even if it was unknowingly, create an atmosphere that led to her decisions. Did he constantly complain about not wanting more children? Did they fight over it? At the very least, he is going to need counseling as well. BUT if he pressured her in some way, isn't he at least partly responsible? It seems odd that she was able to hide that serious of a mental problem from him for that long, but sometimes we really don't KNOW people, and love certainly makes us blind. It is a sad story no matter how you approach it and it really sows how important it is for all pregnancies to be monitored by a medical professional. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | when i first read this article, i thought...hmmmm them babies were not her husbands, she's been having an affair when he's been away, but DNA tests say that the babies were theirs, yes her husband may have something to do with this but who knows, innocent till proven guilty....however this does not excuse what she did, she murdered 2 little babies and left them in a freezer, only someone unstable and heartless could do something so gruesome | | | |
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3. doggyhouz (475)
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3 years ago
| | This is the reason why we must consider the death penalty here. This is awful, having people like this out in the world with us killing there own blood. Where is her companions at all for life and for her own flesh and blood. Poor babies didn't get a chance at all to enjoy the life experience. She should get checked in to the hospital and see what is wrong with her and then hang her. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | them babies would probably had a horrible life with her anyway because she didn't want them, si imagine their lives with that maniac, yes she should be punished and punished severely.... | | | |
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4. moondancer (4017)
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3 years ago
| | OMG, I am so upset over this. This woman has killed her babies...I don't care what frame of mind she was in. She killed innocent babies, her babies. If she so wished not to have a baby then there were steps she could have made to make sure that she did not get pregnant. She now needs to be fixed so that she can no longer get pregnant. A tubal, hysterectomy, something. My husband works in other countries too, we are hardly ever together. But if I got pregnant that would be the happiest day of my life. There was no excuse for her to do what she did. She is a problem if released...what if she gets pregnant again. She will kill the baby. So that makes her a problem, no not to herself... but to a baby! If and when she gets out of jail, they should force her to get a tubal or something. I can not see why a baby is punished for what the mother did, getting pregnant when she did not want to be, she should have taken measures to make sure that she would not conceive! | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | i agree moon, give her the full works so she can never have kids again...she did something so cruel and selfish to these babies, how could any woman even think of doing something like that, she must have a cold heart to even think about such a thing..i hope she never gets out of jail and they keep her locked up in a high security mental institution....her poor kids will one day find out about this and will know that their mother is a child murderer, imagine what hell they will go through at school once word gets around...i feel so sad for her surviving kids...they don't deserve that.... | | | |
moondancer (4017)
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3 years ago
| | You are absolutely right tatty. Her other children and nieces and nephews too are going through lots of crap at school. Kids can be so cruel and you know they are catching he** because of this. These children will need help. They will not be able to wrap their minds around what that woman did and being taunted at school is the last thing they need. Her children ...I worry for them. What if their mother gets out, how is she going to treat them? Those poor children losing their siblings like that and they have to live with it so does their dad. I hope they can get through this. | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | yes it will be a tough time for her living children, once word gets out they will suffer terribly, it seems she didn't think about this before she murdered them little ones, now she has to live with that thought, but people like her don't care a hoot....she's pure evil, right through to the bone... | | | |
moondancer (4017)
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3 years ago
| | She is a cruel woman with no heart or soul or she has a black soul. She also has no conscience or she could not or would not have done what she did. They need to make her have a hysterectomy so she can not have anymore chilren. And if she gets out of jail, which she probably will one day they need to restrict her from being around all children. Just as they would a man that has molested children or raped them. If they force her to have a permanent tubal she can get that reversed, so the only thing that will work is a hysterectomy. I do feel so badly for her other children as they must live with hat their mother did, so does their dad the father of the babies she killed. It's so sad. | | | |
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5. JenInTN (10184)
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3 years ago
| | I know that there are people with mental issues and depression. I know that there are some people that do stupid things because they feel like they are backed in a corner. I just can not relate this. There is no excuse for what this lady did. I can not understand..and I don't think I want to how anyone in their right mind or not could do such a thing. Depression...mental illness..none of that makes it ok or gives it a reason. There are ways not to become pregnant and if there is an accident...there are ways to deal with it other than this horrible thing that she has done. She does need help but not freedom. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | definitely nit freedom, IF ever she does get free, then they should take her productive organs out so she cannot ever have any more chiuldren, i mean how many different types of contraception is on the market today, i am sure she knew that she could get protection, she is selfish and evil...she should stay in jail for the rest of her UNnatural life... | | | |
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6. Ricki911 (11885)
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3 years ago
| | Oh My. Obviously she had some sot of psychological disorder. Your telling me this lady was pregnant, delivered two babies (seperate years), killed them and stored them in freezer. The husband had no idea - he must be clueless then. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | i really don't know if her husband knew or not, he was away alot....but even so, these babies didn't deserve to die in such a horrible way...what was she thinking....she needs to stay in jail and never released... | | | |
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7. Opal26 (14496)
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3 years ago
| | Hey tatty! Love the new avatar of Max & Lottie! They look so cute together looking out the window! That would make such a great picture for you to hang on the wall! I love it! As for this psychotic woman, she needs some serious help! How could she hide 3 pregnancies, kill 3 babies and no one, not even her own husband knew? That is beyond insane! I just don't think that she should be absolved of the blame even if the declare her insane! And of course they will because she would have to be for hiding the pregnancies and killing the 3 babies! I just don't know how she got away with it! I could see maybe one, but 3! How could the husband not have known? This is just to bizarre! | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | oh thanks opal...i never thought about framing that picture but now you mentioned it, i will do that, i think it would look lovely... however, this woman needs serious help, she knew what she was doing, she didn't want babies so why get pregnant, i just don't understand people like that, she is evil and callous....i hope they throw away the key... | | | |
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8. OreoCookie3 (22470)
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3 years ago
| | This woman is in serious need of help. OMG! Someone ought to strangle her and put her in the freezer. That just defies logic. She had to know she was doing wrong.. she hid her pregnancy and then hid the bodies after she killed the babies. She knew what she was doing.. that is premeditated. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | it is alarming isn't it? i was shocke when i read this on the news, she is in dire need of something, but help wouldn't cure her, she has evil running right through her, i saw a pic of her and she even looks evil... | | | |
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9. charlenmendoza (519)
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3 years ago
| | this is one of the shocking news i heard today. Maybe the girl is disturb or having psychological problem and the husband is not aware of it. I was thinking how can they prove that the wife is the culprit, maybe the husband or maybe other people. Because how can a mother do it to her own child. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | it's surprising what goes on in peoples minds, but to even think of doing that to a baby is abnormal...i hope they throw away the key...she's disgusting | | | |
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10. selina0625 (996)
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3 years ago
| | This is truly shocking! Based on what she said that she's not killing babies but was killing extensions of herself clearly shows that she is not in touch with reality. She need psychological help.This is so unfortunate. | | | | | | |
tattylashes (4277)
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3 years ago
| | she needs to be locked away for a very long time, i don't think professional help will cure her, but a long term in jail will give her time to think about what she did...she needs to be punishes in the best way possible...maybe an electric chair... | | | |
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