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myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics7 months ago

That's right folks, the VA medical system is Nationalized Health care. Because they are federal facilities they are not held to local standards of hygiene. VA hospitals and clinics are now required to offer free screening to veterans who have been exposed to unsanitary equipment.

How would you like to get a letter in the mail informing you that your latest colonoscopy was performed with a dirty probe?

This is nationalized health care at it's best!!

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jan/03/va-hospital-colon-test-tools-may-be-infected/

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 75/100. heathcliff (791)   ranked 354 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

Why do you suppose that is? Isn't it a lack of funding and oversight that makes mistakes like that possible? If anything this story shows why we should spend MORE federal money and attention to health care!


myLot reputation of 38/100. piasabird (1487)   ranked 2,206 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago



Um, yeah, throw more money at it. That'll fix it. It's worked swimmingly well with education, hasn't it?


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

Yeah, more money to reward incompetence. That is the government way.


myLot reputation of 51/100. Taskr36 (4601)   ranked 396 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

Heathcliff, you can't spend your way out of these problems. We already spend more per capita than any other country in the world on healthcare and that's WITHOUT universal health care. Just to give you a comparison, Italy who was rated number 1 in healthcare the last time the WHO did a global rating in 2000, spends $2,623 per capita. Here in the US we spend $6,714 per capita. That is NOT an exaggeration.

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Money isn't the problem. It's piss poor management by the federal government. As I pointed out in a thread a long time ago, the federal government has proven itself incapable of running anything well.


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

It's not a lack of funding that brings someone to stick a contaminated rectal probe up someone's colon. It's nothing but the apathy that comes from not being held to any sort of standard.. in other words... government work.

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2. myLot reputation of 38/100. piasabird (1487)   ranked 2,206 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago



One of my friends was just telling me about a friend of his who was having black outs. He was in the Navy at the time so he went to the Navy docs and they tell him there's nothing wrong with him. While driving home on leave he blacks out and wakes up with his car completely totaled and him lucky to be alive. They take him to a civilian hospital, run a simple blood test on him and find out what's wrong with him.

Oh, and did you know that you can't sue the government and win?

I admit I haven't been paying attention to Obama's plans for healthcare as closely as I should. Did he say that he wants more people using Medicare? I mean, do you know how much cheating goes on and how many crooks are involved with Medicare?


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

As long as Obama can line his pockets and overbloated ego with money, he doesn't care how many crooks are involved in Medicare.

The entire US military can fall over and die for all Herr Obama cares.. as long as he gets his.

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3. myLot reputation of 79/100. spalladino (9027)   ranked 174 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

This hit pretty close to home for us because my husband gets his medical care from the V.A. medical center in West Palm Beach. They send some patients to the one in Miami for surgeries that they don't perform but now my husband refuses to even consider going to Miami for anything. He's put off a scheduled colonoscopy twice so far at WPB because he's lost his trust in them, too, right now.


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

VA Care is an oxymoron.

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4. myLot reputation of 85/100. clutterbug (821)   ranked 1,784 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

Isn't this something? I heard this on the radio last night, what a farce. And so many people are crying for US Nationalized Health Care. They have no idea. It's definitely not all rainbows, unicorns, and leprachans.

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (15302)   ranked 1,053 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

I wish I were surprised, but I'm not... saddened, but not surprised.

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6. myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9233)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

I see this story is from January 3. I guess that means it can't be all Obama's fault, right? I heard about this on the news and it's outrageous. There are a lot of things with our V.A. hospitals that leave much to be desired. I hope those who are opposed to health care reform don't succeed in using this as propaganda, however. Nobody is proposing anything like the VA hospitals for everyone else.
Annie


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

Nope, I don't fault Obama for it in the least. I do, however, hold it up as typical apathy from bureacratic "employees" who couldn't care less about anything but picking up a guaranteed paycheck.. whether they deserve it or not.

What Obama is proposing is every bit what the VA is. He wants a medical system run by bureacrats.

This didn't happen because of a lack of funding, access, insurance, or any other excuse that is used by Marxists. It is the direct result of lazy, good for nothing people who are quilty of theft with every direct deposit they accept but didn't earn.

The VA is Nationalized Healthcare. Why do you have to look elsewhere when it's already happening in our nation. Most vets who can afford it stay as far away from the VA medical system as they can. The rest are forced into what we'll all be forced into if we listen to Marxists.


myLot reputation of 88/100. grammasnook (1260)   ranked 88 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

This is an outrage for sure. Being an ex military wife what I will say is that the United States does not have enough VA hospitals to accomidate the vets. They are only able to go to these hospitals and be treated at these particular ones. Under the new health plan you will be able to go to any hospital not the choice of just a VA hospital. I live in a city with a Major VA hospital and it is nothing but a huge drug and alcohol rehabilitation center. They make the vets go to another city just to have blood drawn which is absolutely pathetic, it is another VA but it just doesnt make any sense.

Just so people realize hospitals of all sorts have break downs in things being unsanitized all it takes is one person not doing their job properly. We have a ramage of MRSA going on all over the United States in the hospitals. Simply because people dont wash their hands or wear gloves when they should. Whether a federal or privately ran institution this happens everywhere.


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

Government bureacracies only know how to perpetuate their own self importance. What makes anyone think that this bureacracy will somehow magically be different?

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7. myLot reputation of 79/100. olivebranch56 (676)   ranked 218 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

Ted, My husband was going to the VA for his health care, (If you could call it that). He has diabetes, blocked arterys and a lot of other health issues. They would ask him a couple of questions refill his meds and say see ya in 6 months. Meantime he had open sores not healing, feet busting open, and other things going on I won't mention here. I finally told him we were changing his health care. I set him up with my physcian and now he gets seen every 6 weeks, has care for his legs and feet, and they are running tests for other issues. I think it is a crying shame that the men and women who serve this country are subjected to such inadequate health care. Lets face it many of the vet's who go there for treatment are there because of their service, wounded in action, and are treated with less care than my vet gives my animals. Shame on our country for this shoddy repayment to the men and women who fight for their freedoms. Blessings Marilyn


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

A doctor who would let a diabetic patient with open foot ulcers go 6 months between check ups is no doctor at all! Just a person with fancy paper in frames on walls.

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8. myLot reputation of 51/100. Taskr36 (4601)   ranked 396 out of 6,373 in politics   7 months ago

This is not unlike the guy who nearly lost his leg after being blown off by teh VA hospital. I posted on that one a while ago.

http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1958722.aspx

I think it would be much better for vets if they were able to go to REAL hospitals rather than the crap that passes for VA care.


myLot reputation of 60/100. ParaTed2k (4586)   ranked 403 out of 6,373 in politics  7 months ago

If Obama gets his way there won't be REAL hospitals to go to.

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