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myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia7 months ago

Of late Australia has been getting a lot of BAD PRESS that we are Racist people.

Many have heard about the Raw Deal that some Indian Students are getting here.

(by the way this is another Cultural Group who are doing the attacks.)

Me, I'm what you would call a WHITE MAN, who comes from a place many will never Visit due to the distance one has to go to get here (travel), (Australia.)

Many think I speak funny even though it is English, and maybe my Cloths are different, and yes there is Food I eat here that many would find different and may wonder how I can eat it.

If I was to Travel deep into China, India, or into the Jungles of Africa, Many of the locals would never have seen a WHITE MAN let alone an Australian.

These people would point at me, make funny faces, I would be something they would stare at.The Children would most likely hide and peep around the corner at me.

Why because I am different, I would not find this to be rude or RACIST.
Nor would I complain that this was happening to me.

So why is it when we get people from different Cultures and beliefs here in Australia, We are called Racist, when many do the same as those from over seas in the lands I have spoke of.

What I do find here in my Country is that many who come here to live also bring their problems from the old Country and their HATES and they show it here, Instead of the new life they continue to be that same as at home in the OLD COUNTRY.

Do you see this in your live and in your towns when people from overseas come to live.

Do they mix in with all of us or stay in their little groups and do not mix with the locals.

I have put my thoughts to this discussion and I would like to know how you see things where you live and when you travel do these things happen to you.

Do you think it is racist or is it the People are only interested in WHO YOU ARE and trying to UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER,

That is why the look at you.

HICCUP/

 
 
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tags:  racism, australia, racist, indian, racist attacks
 
21. myLot reputation of 98/100. Opal26 (10071)   ranked 35 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

Hi hiccup! I hate to say it, but I really have to agree with
you! Where I live in the USA and in particular the part of
NY that I live in there is a great mixture of people from
many different countries. In fact right in the very apartment
complex that I live in there are Whites, Blacks, Japanese,
Thais, Indian, Arabs, Moslums and others! And some are willing
to mix while others keep to their own kind! It is really very
upsetting to me since I was one of the original people here
in my neighborhood 29 years ago and these people have moved
in and pretty much taken over an don't seem to care to mix
but stay with their own kind! I take offense! I was here first
and if I don't have a problem with you, how dare you have a
problem with me! Quite frankly, I am in the minority now and
I should be the one harboring the resentment! If I am willing
to have an open mind then why aren't THEY????


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

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22. myLot reputation of 83/100. rogue13xmen13 (7297)   ranked 52 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

Wow, you think that Australia is the only country being called racists? Come to America! Everyone here gets called racists, and most people don't deny it. I cannot be a racist because I have way too many ethnic/racial groups in my blood (I am mostly European, about 1/16th black and 1/16th Native American). I have a lot of different groups in me. I also come from a vary mixed family. I have Jewish, Mexican, Black, Asian, and Native American cousins, and the list keeps growing, but I know so many people who hate the mix, and I cannot understand why. Anyone here remember the Romans? Check the History Channel. They were more mixed than anyone can imagine. Deep down, we are all mixed.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

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myLot reputation of 57/100. Maggiepie (1613)   ranked 11 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

Yeah. I'm a "Heinz 57" human myself. Of the countries of which I know my ancestry, I'm English-Irish-Danish-Dutch-Welsh-Scottish-German-French-Russian-Jewish-Cherokee-Iroquois-whatever----no wait...I'm AMERICAN.

Imagine that.

And you're right, there is NO such thing as a "pure" race (Aussie aborigines being perhaps the closest...), as this is an old world, & all our ancestors have long since blended with one another, so I'm sure that I have at least a few drops of every race's blood that exists. That's why I can't be a racist, either; I'd have to hate myself! lol

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23. myLot reputation of 76/100. suspenseful (17145)   ranked 57 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

I do not think that is racist but it seems if you are white if you stare at someone of another country, or express curiosity you are considered racist. And even if two groups where one is Hindu or Brahman and the others Muslims go against each other they are not blamed only the majority of the host country in which they live.
It is as if if you are any color other then white or pink or beige you can call the other group all sorts of names and get away with it.
To me racism employs lynching, armed thugs going into houses and apartments beating up people, and blaming someone of that ethnic group for the crime that some evil person of that ethnic group did.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

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24. myLot reputation of 97/100. cdparazo (3945)   ranked 93 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

For me being a racist is being deliberate in exclusion and discrimination of a person or group of persons because just because they come from different culture and country. But you have said so far are things that I just find as boundaries born out of natural differences. We have Indians, Americans, Arabs and English here in my country but they also stick together and we also approach them hesitantly, well, because they are just different and may think differently. But the challenge there is learning how to pry them open and accept them. One won't just wake up & know them right away or be comfortable with them. Human nature, we are hesitant to approach who are different from us and those who are alike, just group together. There is nothing racist with that. It's just part of the process when one immerses oneself in another culture. Acceptance and understanding doesn't come overnight. One would only be a racist when one refuses outright to bridge the gap and try to understand, tolerate those who are different.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

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25. myLot reputation of 95/100. dawnald (10177)   ranked 54 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

Not one Aussie has ever said anything nasty to me because I'm white. Not one.

But seriously, folks...

Anybody can cry racism. We get it here in California when benefits aren't offered to illegal aliens, when government documents aren't offered in languages other than English, etc. I'm sure there ARE Aussies who are racists, just like there are people from the US who are. But to say the entire country is racist is ridiculous.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

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26. myLot reputation of 13/100. kijiky (582)   ranked 53 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

I have a friend that live in Australia and he has a beautiful black girl friend and he is white. So I think that this is probably not true for everyone living there.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

We are no different than most Countries.

We do have some problems and we try to fix them but race hate is something that is not here in general,
Some small groups have race hate, but not all Australians are like that.

We do not like race hate.

HICCUP/

 
27. myLot reputation of 81/100. skysuccess (2405)   ranked 168 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

hiccup,

Do you agree that there will always be a few rotten apples in a barrel? I hope that you can realize that there would not be any bad press if there was no incident to start off. Would any sane and logical guest(s) want to incur the wrath of the gracious host? Most of all, would the press be liable for this bad and erroneous report? I am sure with such an orderly country like yours, I am sure of it that the legal consequences will be there for erroneous and misled accounts of the press.

I feel that you should not be so reactionary as%$#@$!@# this, because, IMHO, you do not represent the majority and especially not those who are racists. Just because you are not a racist does not mean that there are no racists in your country. You did mention a valid point that the Lebanese gang is being responsible for the "bashing" however, would the victims be so careless or ignorant with their testimonies? I just beg to differ here as I could not believe that ALL of the victims could not tell the difference between a Lebanese and an Australian. Why would they want to incur more trouble when they already have 2 hands full?

I am not saying that there are no good and honest loving people in Australia, yet like all other developed countries there will always be some bad characters to spoil the day. If not, then I am sure that the penal and legal codes are or rather would not be NECESSARY at the end of the day.

To be fair, just let time and your country's legal system work and play out here. That is if you are still having faith with your country's crime fighting effectiveness and legal system. So, I do not know about you here, but I am sure that justice will prevail at the end of the day where the victims will get a redress and the culprits be brought to justice.

Take care and have a nice and peaceful day.


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

I have no complaints to what you had to say.

There may be a point or two I may disagree with but they are small.
You have taken time to take in what has been said, before you have made your comments and I do find them to be fair comments.

No matter who it was who was the abuser, Australians got the blame and Whites got the Blame. And much of this was wrong.

Who is to say they are Australian/Lebanese, Australian/Indian, Australian/Italian, Australian/Japanese, many of these and more are Australian so in part that is right.

Gang Warfare/fight/Abuse is right, maybe on one part only, Race against Race, YES,
Australian??? The question here is What back ground, what Culture Australia.
Australia is a Multi Culture Country and from time to time we do have Race against Race. Much of it stems back to the OLD COUNTRY.

Some time back I remember when things between India and Pakistan were not so good and the launch of the Rocket upset a few. But it was India and Pakistan, waving Flags here in Australia, Abuse at each other in the Streets of Australia.

For me, This should not have happened, take the India and Pakistan Fight back to the old Country with the HATE that was shown by both groups.

We do not need that here in Australia. To that matter anywhere.

History is a wonderful animal, you forget it and it will come back to BITE YOU.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 81/100. skysuccess (2405)   ranked 168 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

hiccup,

Robert Penn Warren once said that: "The past is always a rebuke to the present", so it will be a fact that history will always return to BITE when one does not and do not want to learn.

Yet, I must stress that you do not need to take it upon yourself and/ or on behalf of all the whites with regards to the recent spate of event(s). I do not see the relevancy of the Indian Pakistani conflict when that is totally another matter of discussion which is of political than anything near racism.

I feel that it would be just fair and not out of context here that innocent Indians were being trashed and bashed by some racists in your country and as such I believe it will be up to the law to set things right. I am sorry but I just feel that it is not up to any of us here. However, it would help greatly if everyone could use our education well to be more discerning and tolerant with one another to avoid any misunderstandings and violence in the future.

Cheerio.

 
28. myLot reputation of 73/100. footfall (177)   ranked 58 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

All i can say about this is that there are actually a few attacks on students and probably particularly indians but not all of them are racist.Even the indian students living in Australia know that the situation is being exaggerated from indian point of view.Demonstrations from indians are coming as they have come to know that Indians back home are really angry about it and it is fuelling the matter.

As you are saying that there is some form of racism in India,China or Africa, you are right, many people get nuts after watching white people like they are some kind of aliens.But never would you be beaten up by people for just fun like some cases against indians


myLot reputation of 73/100. footfall (177)   ranked 58 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

There are bad people in every country, not only Australia.
There is also a reason that Indians are behaving like that.The problem is that people beleive what their media says and Indian media is so pathetic that they inflate every kind of info on anything.I only read somewhere that there have been 500 attacks in the past year or so on Indians.You know its false, but you will get angry too if you read news like these for Australians in India.
Don't pay much heed to this, the media will stop showing such news once they get something more interesting and also when people get bored.Happy Mylotting!


myLot reputation of 82/100. hiccup (6595)   ranked 3 out of 188 in australia  7 months ago

You comment are welcomed,

but then again if you had a different line of thought it is not to abuse you for them as this is discussion and comment. And you have the right to post that with out abuse being used an any part.

HICCUP/

 
29. myLot reputation of 95/100. twoey68 (9675)   ranked 125 out of 188 in australia   7 months ago

I guess we would all seem different if we went to a different country. I'm sure if I went to Mexico, Africa or even Australia I'd be stared at and wondered about simply b/c I wouldn't fit in. It's not being rude or racist, simply curious. To claim it's racist shows that the person claiming it doesn't know the meaning of the world. As I understand it, a racist is someone who hates another group of ppl for no particular reason other than they don't like the color of their skin. It's not based their behavior, attitude or anything other than the color of their skin. Stupid actually. If I don't like someone or a group of ppl it's for a legitimate reason not something dumb like skin color.

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30. myLot reputation of 97/100. celticeagle (4866)   7 months ago

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