Drenched in the Blood of Slavery

Yes, they had massive opposition from within their own party. Where do you think those people turned after the Civil Rights Act passed? Todays Republican Party is loaded with former Democrats who jumped ship based on Civil Rights controversies.

Forgetting history isn't as bad as selectively ignoring parts of it.

"Todays Republican Party is loaded with former Democrats who jumped ship based on Civil Rights controversies."

That doesn't even begin to make sense. The republican party was pro-civil rights and anti-segregation. Why would anyone with the opposite views join the Republican party?

"Forgetting history isn't as bad as selectively ignoring parts of it."

You say that, yet that is exactly what so many democrats, especially minorities are doing.

"loaded"? That's a bit of an exaggeration, to put it midly...

David Duke couldn't get the endorsement of the Republican party because of his racist views. But lets not forget that this is a man who ran as an open racist Democratic candidate for years and years.... And ironically, Duke wouldn't have been popular among voters if the DNC didn't spend so much time exploiting race issues and racial divides...

The reason people forget history is that our schools place WAY too much emphasis on the DATE of the event and WHO was involved...NOT the lessons that should be learned from the events.

No one has kept the minorities in the US down as much as the DNC and Racism Inc.

The DNC is no longer targeting blacks specifically because it is too busy advancing the Communist Party agenda which oppresses everyone in the name of equality.

"Racism Inc" is another phrase for the RNC, right? Rich White businessmen smoking cigars, loading their guns and telling everyone what to do based on their Christian agenda. Why would most minorities want to be a part of the Republican Party's lean to the right?

Heathcliff, you need to read this article by David Mamet

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/news/why-i-am-no-longer-a-brain-dead-liberal/1

The GOP hasn't been leaning right. The GOP has been moving left for a long time, and that's the problem.

Perhaps if minorities stopped slurping up the DNC's "victimhood" mentality they might actually realize that they are being enslaved by their own political ideology.

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You know what I find interesting? Members of the world's most intolerant and oppressive religion--Islam--vote Democrat by a vast majority

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Why-American-Muslims-are-p-by-Abdus-Sattar-Ghaza-081101-485.html

And liberals are some of Islam's biggest apologists though if Islam were to gain political control it would crush them under oppressive religious ideology. But as Muslims love to play victim the Democratic Party can use it to gain even further control.

Oddly enough, nations based on Christian ideology have been just as intolerant and dictatorial as Muslim ones. In the US, we set out to have a country where you could be whatever you wanted without government prosecution. Fear of Islam has given that philosophy a severe test and many people are failing the test of tolerance. Leading the way are the Far Right "Moral Majority" remnants seeking control through the Republican Party. In America they represent a far more real threat than Islam.

States rights over federal rights, lessening of restrictions and regulation on business, suppression of personal liberties in favor of religious guidelines . . . Does any of this sound familiar?

Does that mean Obama is republican? Cause it sure sounds like him.

The only part that sounds like Obama is the suppression of individual liberties. But he is not an advocate of States Rights, and he definitely wants to regulate everything.

The GOP has been infiltrated by the same ideology that infiltrated the DNC though. The GOP hasn't been the party of Lincoln or even of Reagan for a long time.

Arlen Specter's defection was one of the best things that has happened to the GOP in a long time. I hope Snow follows his lead.

That's because there's a big stigma against being a black republican. Being a black republican opens the door for racist attacks from the left with the most common being "Uncle Tom". I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say Colin Powell isn't "really" black. He's brown. Of course now that he's supported Obama those attacks have decreased significantly.

I heard once, "If you're conservative before age 25 you have no heart. If you're liberal after age 25 you have no brain". It was said as a joke but I think there is some truth to it. Liberalism preys on the naive idealist who has no regard for pragmatism and reality and we all know how naive and idealistic the young are...

Liberalism is emotional and selfish, just like many young people.

If liberalism is selfish and naive, conservatism is selfish and cruel. Anyone can be expected to act in their own sef interest, but when someone dares to try to make the word a better place, they get slammed as "naive". Conservatism cannot solve public problems as they arise because it is definitionally afraid of change.

Liberalism is ANY action taken to remedy a problem without going backward or maintaining the status quo. Linking it to Socialism is only true in the same sense that alcohol is wet. Many things are wet: Many things are liberal.

If ANY public programs paid for by the federal government are Socialism (and I can see that as a point), then we are a Socialist State from our very founding and reversing that was a point fought over and lost during the Civil War. Even if states' rights advocates had their way, it would merely move the Socialism to the State government level, not remove Socialism from America.

The GOP has done themselves a great disservice by making "liberal" and "Socialism" bad words. Without liberalism we would never change and we would be stagnant like pre-WW2 America. Without Socialism, we would have runaway capitalism pushing the poor toward a communist revolution. Neither is perfect, we have to maintain a constant vigil over our government to ensure they are responsive to the public, but a cold, conservative, non-Socialist government was tried before, in Nazi Germany, and should never be tried again.

I stopped believing in the Republican Party when I saw the conservative, Far Right proposing stagnation and authoritarianism. And since we are talking about quotes about Dems and Reps, let me give you one: "People who are intelligent and know their history are Democrat." The numbers of college professors who are Democrats will probably bear that out.

The Republican Party is in danger right now. As a group they have moved away from the country's political center. Bashing the Democrats as if they're all Far Left communists isn't helping.

All this 'change' and leftist rhetoric is just that. rhetoric. We are slipping and sliding our way into communism by the ACRONYM OBAMA One Big Azz Mistake America.

If liberalism is selfish and naive, conservatism is selfish and cruel. Anyone can be expected to act in their own sef interest, but when someone dares to try to make the word a better place, they get slammed as "naive". Conservatism cannot solve public problems as they arise because it is definitionally afraid of change.

Selfish and cruel? How so? By expecting--nay demanding-- that individuals be accountable for themselves and their own prosperity? Because the men who found this nation shared that view that each man was responsible for his own destiny and framed our constitution with that belief in mind.

Conservatism can't solve public problems? Oh really? Conservatives ended slavery. Conservatives did more for civil rights than any Democrat. So called "liberals" have given us abortion and internment camps and loyalty oaths and eugenics and a government that has far overreached its intended purpose. Look at any city run by liberals and tell me liberals know the first thing about solving society's ills. Nearly every single major city run by Democrats is a cesspool of crime, poverty and corruption. California and Michigan are glaring examples of liberal policies in effect and do we need to talk about what liberals have done to our school systems?

Please tell me one social problem that liberals have been able to solve. You can't. Poverty? Nope. Drugs? Nope again. Crime? Big no. Education? The environment? No and no....


In fact, I can't really think of one problem that liberal policies haven't actually made worse...take working conditions in this country; what started out as something good and right--fair and safe working conditions, has turned into something--corrupt, greedy unions--that is actually destroying this country.

Liberalism is ANY action taken to remedy a problem without going backward or maintaining the status quo. Linking it to Socialism is only true in the same sense that alcohol is wet. Many things are wet: Many things are liberal.

That is not the definition of liberalism. That might be what you think liberalism is, but that's not what it is. Liberals don't solve problems, they create victims.

Liberal should mean liberty, but it has simply come to mean "lots". Lots of government handouts, lots of entitlements, lots of government control.

If ANY public programs paid for by the federal government are Socialism (and I can see that as a point), then we are a Socialist State from our very founding and reversing that was a point fought over and lost during the Civil War. Even if states' rights advocates had their way, it would merely move the Socialism to the State government level, not remove Socialism from America.

You claim to know your history? Were you not aware that the founding fathers WANTED the states to be the ones to decide their own destiny while protecting the rights of the individual? That's why the United States is a democratic REPUBLIC and not a pure democracy, because pure democracy would merely let whatever tyrant who happened to come into power trample the rights of the individual. The founding fathers saw what happened when Federal governments overreached their power and they felt that smaller local governments could serve the interest of the people. Jefferson knew that Federal government was a necessary evil that must be controlled and limited; your comment shows that you really don't understand that at all.

You are more in line with 0bama who claims the Constitution doesn't give the Federal government enough power.



"People who are intelligent and know their history are Democrat." The numbers of college professors who are Democrats will probably bear that out.


LOL the one thing that I have found to be universally true is that Democrats tend to be ignorant of anything that does not support their world view. Most democrats are woefully ignorant of history and of plain common sense.

but a cold, conservative, non-Socialist government was tried before, in Nazi Germany, and should never be tried again.


What are you talking about? The Nazi Party was a socialist party and in fact that's what they called themselves in the beginning. They weren't conservative they were authoritarian and they CERTAINLY didn't share the conservative values of individual liberty and freedom.

There is no concept of responsibility anymore. There is only the concept of being entitled to having the government take care of them. This is so wrong to feel entitled to be taken care of, because someone IS paying for the handouts the liberals ask for.

"If liberalism is selfish and naive, conservatism is selfish and cruel. Anyone can be expected to act in their own sef interest, but when someone dares to try to make the word a better place, they get slammed as "naive"."

It's not the goal, but rather the method of reaching that goal that makes liberalism the problem. Giving your own time and money to better the nation is great. Stealing time and money from those who work hard and giving it to able-bodied people who are too lazy and incompetent to hold down a job is NOT going to make the world a better place.

Statistics throughout the nation have shown that republican voters give a much larger percent of their own time and money to charitable cases than democrats. On the other hand democrats favor using the government to give other people's money (specifically, those wealthier than the democrats voting) to such causes.

You hit it on the head Taskr. Giving is one thing, but the government stealing from the citizens to fund their interest groups and programs is quite another.

We've said essentially the same thing. The DNC was born out of a desire to protect slavery, and now has become the party of socialists. But either way, it's never stood for anything noble or right.

You are missing the third option: "beat your fellow man with a fish and take his stuff, 'cuz who cares about him anyway". This is closer to the Republican philosophy nowadays: Given that educational support programs that COULD actually "teach someone to fish" are against their official policy.

The true problem is not "dependence" as the Far Right would have you believe, but a fair playing field that rich people in positions of power have no incentive to promote.

"Republicans on the other hands, have a tendency to kick the little guy to the curb and tell him to pick himself up if he wants to make it."

Funny thing is, the U.S. was kicked to the curb during its founding and our ability to pick ourselves up is why we're a superpower.

"You are missing the third option: "beat your fellow man with a fish and take his stuff, 'cuz who cares about him anyway". This is closer to the Republican philosophy nowadays: Given that educational support programs that COULD actually "teach someone to fish" are against their official policy."

Republicans don't believe in taking 'his stuff' as you say. We believe in letting people keep their 'stuff' and compensating by reducing government spending. Show me exactly where in the republican's "Official Policy" it says they are against educational support programs.

"The true problem is not "dependence" as the Far Right would have you believe, but a fair playing field that rich people in positions of power have no incentive to promote."

Republicans are clearly the ones in favor of a fair playing field. We think it's fair that EVERYONE has a fair chance at a job and/or promotion. Democrats believe that certain minority groups deserve preferential treatment, even to the detriment of others. If a black firefighter doesn't pass a test for a promotion, than no white or Hispanic men can be promoted. That's the democrat's philosophy which was backed up by Sotomayor.

Taskr - my statement about kicking the little guy to the curb was intended to portray that instead of giving handouts, the Republicans would rather have people learn from the school of hard knocks and end up with someone who is independant and able to take care of themselves and thus become a useful member of society. Kicking to the curb means no more than you can't play until you pay i.e. engineers need degrees but working and going to school is tough. And thus by kicking the little guy to the curb you are in fact teaching him to feed himself for life!

Heathcliff - Your socialistic views are not even worth considering. You either fight to survive or you die cause no one would feed you for more than a day. Dependance promotes nothing but lazy people with their hands out for more after they squander what they get. The main thing that kept many minorities down was dependance on social services. You show me a successful minority, of which there are many, and I will show you a person who rose above sitting around waiting for the next welfare check, took his butt to work, got an education and made something of himself. You too often criticize the rich because you cannot achieve. You say they don't want a fair playing field, there is no such thing as fair and I'd like to know what your basis for comparison is.

Yeah, liberals are more apt to take your stuff than a conservative. A defining characteristic of most liberals is their belief that they have a right to enjoy the fruits of someone else' labor.

You're absolutely right Dana! Have you noticed our token president is busy eating up the limelight, spending on frivolous vacations at taxpayers expense and acting like it's his right?! And the healthcare bill you've been so vocal about is no better! They have already figured out a way to make you pay for health care even if you can't afford it by making it legal to just tap your checking account if necessary! Thanks for BR!

You grew up thinking that Republicans were responsible for the KKK because Democrats wanted you to think that. They don't like to be reminded of their roots.

You forgot to mention Colin Powell...

Funny, Bush had more black people in his cabinet that 0bama...

Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican

Here are some more prominent black Republicans

http://www.nbra.info/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.blackgop&x=2164863

Colin Powell was already mentioned ...

Have you read the article about MLK jr being a Republican?

Yep, just saw it.

He talked like a conservative in his speeches, but I wasn't aware he was a Republican until now.

He would be greatly disappointed in his party today.