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Why Am I Not Surprised About Possible Cause Of Michael Jackson's Death  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life 3 years ago

It's still too soon to get the full autopsy report results of the cause of Michael Jackson's death and may not be released for more than four weeks, however speculation is running around according to news reports that what triggered his cardiac arrest may have been due to some heavy duty painkillers of which reportedly he was heavily addicted to including oxycodone (one of the medications also found in late actor's Heath Ledger's system) and it's reported too that just prior to Jackson going into cardiac arrest he was given a heavy dose of Demerol

http://www.guardian.co.uk...

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Reports in the Sun suggested that Jackson may have collapsed after an injection of Demerol, a powerful painkiller that can in certain circumstances increase the risk of cardiac arrest. The singer became addicted to Demerol and morphine during his 2003 trial for child sex abuse.

"Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing," the newspaper quoted one source as saying. "His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped."


Here's another article about the medication link to Jackson's death

http://www.nydailynews.co...

Whether you liked Jackson, loved him, hated him...does it really matter? Here he was under the care of many doctors, including a cardiologist who lived with him for round the clock care...and consequently has conveniently disappeared and of which no one can find. Still this is another death probably caused by prescription medications under a so-called doctor's care.

How many more celebrities are going to die while under a doctor's care and being addicted to the medications that are supposed to be helping them? Why didn't someone try to get Jackson help for his addiction to painkillers?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. lilaclady (22726)   3 years ago

Yes it makes you wonder doesn't it, but I guess no-one could really help him if he didn't want to be helped. They showed a clip of him yesterday, I would say it wasn't all that long ago and to me he looked completely out of it, he didn't look too well at all..maybe he had something wrong with him that he needed the painkillers who knows...if he had a doctor living with him and the painkillers were just for no real reason then he should be charged with murder..it all just goes to show us all, money, fame and all that doesn't necessarily bring happiness...I feel sorry for the kids in this...RIP anyway Michael....


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

It makes you wonder too if Jackson's bizarre behavior might have been triggered off by any medications he was taken. Painkillers...especially the real heavy duty kind aren't really to be fooled around with and usually are for short term use, but most are very addictive


myLot reputation of 99/100. lilaclady (22726)  3 years ago

Yes it is all very sad really...

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. nanajanet (2933)   ranked 1,439 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

This happens a lot... Elvis, Heath Ledger, Judy Garland, to name a few, with the prescription drugs.

My sister and I were just talking about, when we had major surgeries and we were put on pain killers, that even though we were in major pain, we stopped the drugs early because we HATED the side affects, pain or not. We just lived with the pain, used ice, or took over the counter to alleviate it.

The more you take, the more you need to make it work. It lasts longer in the beginning and the more dependent you get on it, the more you need to stop the pain. What makes me angry is doctors that continue to give prescriptions, all the while knowing this.

As far as I am concerned, most doctors are just legal drug dealers. They will not use, known, natural ways to end pain.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Yes to my mind many doctors are legal drug pushers--also many doctors just plain don't know all the possible side effects and complications by interactions of several drugs. My mother was had a painful kidney infection and her doc gave her heavy duty painkillers...she acted like a zombie, slept most of the time and on top of that, drank! A wonder she didn't put herself in a coma..I told her to stop taking them....and thankfully she did listen to me (for a change...LOL)

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)   3 years ago

Eew Demoral...nasty stuff...I'm allergic...makes me puke too!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

I refuse to take most prescriptions to begin with


myLot reputation of 93/100. Irishfrndly65 (8534)  3 years ago

Yea...well...when you're in the ER with a kidney stone, they're looking pretty good! LOL!

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15720)   ranked 481 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

Why didn't anyone try to help Elvis when he was in the same situation? I think the increased risk of an arrest had been coming for quite awhile. His parents may not have known to what a degree he was dependant on these drugs he was taking. He probably got this so-called doctor's care because he would give him what he wanted. And probably paid him well for it. Drug abusers are deceptive and determined when it comes to what they want and feel they need. He must have been in alot of pain [atleast at some point] after that accident he was in.


myLot reputation of 35/100. Netsbridge (1897)   ranked 15,817 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Celticeagle, while some people intentionally get into addictive substances, I have also discovered that some indeed get addicted because the addictive substances were wrongfully prescribed to them. I hope people will learn to trun to preventive and natural medicines for whatsoever health problem they have. And the fact that these drug pushers and drug dealers calling themselves "doctors" are in it for the money only make matters worse!


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15720)   ranked 481 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Netsbridge, I so agree.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

To quote you: Why didn't anyone try to help Elvis when he was in the same situation
That could have been the problem...sometimes family members don't recognize a "problem" with another family member as the person might hide the problem whatever it is very well. In Jackson's case...yes, he no doubt was in a lot of pain after his accident...but he could have been rehabilitated and given pain management without relying on medications after awhile--I guess to the doctors it was just easier to keep pumping him up with meds


myLot reputation of 98/100. celticeagle (15720)   ranked 481 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Yes, sometimes they do. I think it has to do with pride, and who has the clout.

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5. myLot reputation of 35/100. Netsbridge (1897)   ranked 15,817 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

This is very sad news. You know, I did not know and do not remember it mentioned that Michael had a drug problem or had chronic pain. Demerol, while habit-forming, is a pain reliever. So very sad and so disappointing! Poor baby! Hope the child in Michael finds his rest!

I do not indeed understand why people often resort to drugs rather than simple improve on their diets and lifestyles for good health!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

It makes you wonder what other medications Jackson was taking total...guess we'll find out in a few weeks time


myLot reputation of 35/100. Netsbridge (1897)   ranked 15,817 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

This is really sad! You see, I am one of those who was very proud of Michael for not been said as having a drug addiction! With all the natural talent and success ....

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6. myLot reputation of 45/100. cookiecrumbles (269)   ranked 9,075 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

You know I am not suprised either. It is not hard for anyone to get addicted to pain medication by doctor! it was very easy for my friends doctor to just hand her a prescription of 120 percodan 10 mg pills for her back! 120 pills! I couldn't believe that. And he just gave her that and said I'll see you in a month. So for a STAR of his stature to be addicted is very easy to hear. Why his doctor didn't stop it, didn't help him. Only that doctor can answer those questions now. Maybe that is why they can't find him for questioning. He should be held responsible for murder in some ways. But that is the police to decide.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

It does seem very odd that Jackson's doctor "disappeared"--I'm betting he realized his mistake and yes could be probably be charged with murder especially if he knew all the other medications Jackson was taking and should have used more caution


myLot reputation of 45/100. cookiecrumbles (269)   ranked 9,075 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

There was a doctor here in Louisville that had his privileges taken away because he was giving to many pills to his patients. One of his patients died right in his waiting room! The guy had gone to the window several times and told the girl he was feeling funny and she told him he had to wait his turn! He had a heart attack and died in the waiting room. They wouldn't let hm write his own prescriptions for almost a year and all his patients that take 'controlled pain medications' have to drug test every month to make sure they are clean and not taking any other street drugs!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

How heartless of that receptionist telling the patient to "wait his turn"--reminds me of a story I heard sometime last year of how a woman was at her doctors office and was in the beginnings of a heart attack....they did call 911 and just as they were ready to take the woman away to the hospital, the receptionist said she couldn't leave until she paid the $5.00 still owed!

Here's the article about that

http://abclocal.go.com/wa...

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myLot reputation of 45/100. cookiecrumbles (269)   ranked 9,075 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

AMAZING ARTICLE!!! I went to it. thanks


myLot reputation of 45/100. cookiecrumbles (269)   ranked 9,075 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

they say on the news cast at 9:51pm that they have found the doctor that was there with Jackson and they police have made an appointment to talk with him. Personally, if I had been the police I don't think I would have be so friendly or nice. but maybe that's just what they are saying to the public. I think that if Jackson had not been given the medication he would still be here tomorrow and still be doing the concert and this is one huge tragedy.

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. OreoCookie3 (22476)   3 years ago

Hi Pye...If the doc gave him the Demerol, he might end up being responsible for causing him to go into respiratory depression, which could cause respiratory and cardiac arrest. If he was already taking oral medications, then getting an injection someone may be responsible for his death.

If it is true, that Jackson, being addicted to drugs, would have to take some responsiblity for his own demise. I personally think Michael Jackson died a long time ago. He seemed more like a tormented soul. May he rest in peace now.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

The problem as I see it was Jackson's notoriety...being at the status he was, he no doubt requested medications from his doctors and they were more than willing to give them to him whether they should or shouldn't have

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2385)   ranked 78 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

Hi Pye....sad isn't it? No, it doesn't surprise me either, not even a little bit.

People like him and so many, many others have the money and the means to get what they want. I've never heard of a doctor, and I might be wrong on this, that came forward from any of the celebrities deaths to confirm that they REFUSED them treatment at one time or another. It's all about the buck and the prestige I think of being the doctor of so and so, look at me. So, another wasted human death has occurred, much earlier than it should have, and who's to blame?

You know the old saying "Just say No?" about drugs....I think it should refer to the doctors also, not just their patients.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

No I've never heard of a doctor of a celebrity refusing to hand out meds like candy to their "patient" that's why I often think docs in general are glorified drug pushers.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2385)   ranked 78 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Oh, you have such a way with words, lol! I want to be like you and write like you. You said in one sentence what I wanted to say but it took me 5, haha. Love your style Pye.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

w00t


myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 900 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

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myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2385)   ranked 78 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Hey at my age what do I have to lose. I'm sitting. Bring em' on! Yea, I'm in the Brownie Club!

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9. myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2227)   ranked 3,655 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

probably for the same reason that I am not surprised by the fact that this email notification is yet another discussion about Michael jackson LOL
I have 5 others that I have yet to respond to and probably will end up just deleting


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

LOL--yes I think there is a bit of overkill about Jackson too..heehee...I was just looking at it from the prescription drug angle...and angle that all too many celebrities are/were victim of going back to Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland...etc


myLot reputation of 82/100. wonttakelong (2227)   ranked 3,655 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

yeah that perspective SHOULD be looked at
BUT there are thousands of people throughout this country every year that die and who's death may or may not be or have been caused by excessive prescription drug use
do all those people get this kind of publicity?
hell no they dont
MJ is getting it because he is the worlds most famous frucking FREAK


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Depending on what medications total Jackson took, and he may have been taking medications all his life just about may have explained a lot of his behavior, don't you think? To give an example...almost all those kids who killed kids on school grounds were taking anti-depressants that actually made them more violent

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10. myLot reputation of 92/100. Rosekitty (4785)   ranked 900 out of 32,950 in life   3 years ago

I'm like you and only do natural stuff..like eat my brownies..lol..


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 239 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Hey Kittywub
Where have you been???......oh......give me some brownies...pretty please?


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Where have you been? I'll take a brownie now, thank you!
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myLot reputation of 98/100. Kashmeresmycat (2385)   ranked 78 out of 32,950 in life  3 years ago

Brownies? BROWNIES??, did I hear someone mention Brownies? Can I have one too? I want to be in the Brownie Club along with you guys, please? Mmmmmmm, I can just smell them all the way over here, yummy.

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