Should Politicans Children Be Off Limits To Media Abuse?

I see you forgot all about what Rush did to Chelsea. Funny how republicans never stood up to Rush then, but I am sure you never thought that would come back to haunt you. Can you say HYPOCRACY?

Rush rightfully caught heck from Republicans and Democrats for his remarks implying the Clinton's daughter was ugly. If you want to state Rush is a hypocrit, few would disagree, but Republicans in general do not attack opponent's offspring near as often as do Democrats.

Yes, they should be off limits but, when you use your special needs child as a campaign tool, you bring that child into the campaing do you not? There are slugs in the media...there always have been and there always will be...but you don't put someone out there who YOU can talk about and then expect that person as off limits. You don't parade all of your children on stage after stage and expect the media to say nothing when the oldest turns out to be a very visible example of how the abstinence only philosophy you push doesn't work because she's a pregnant unwed teenager still in high school. Palin should have kept all of her kids AT HOME when she went on the campaign trail. The blame does not sit only in the lap of the media....she put them out there again and again.

Red, What about John McCain's comments about Chelsea Clinton: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." So democrats do it more than republicans?

It used to be that people expected politicians to show off their families...I don't think I'd judge her for putting her kids out there... she had no reason to believe they'd be treated as reprehensibly as they have been. I think personally.. that she p*ssed off fearless leader and he's making sure she pays. But that's just me. Besides...I bet when she was announced as McCain's choice for a VP...the press where pounding down her door asking for any photo opp or interview she would give. I also remember that BEFORE the election and subsequent loss to the Dems....she was not treated so terribly bad. It's only since the election that the press has gone mad...and others outside of politics and the press have joined in...with hate for her. Why? She's a threat to their perfect little UTOPIA...coming soon to a country near you!

"It used to be that people expected politicians to show off their families...I don't think I'd judge her for putting her kids out there... she had no reason to believe they'd be treated as reprehensibly as they have been."

I don't know if it was her, or the RNC that decided to make her family a center piece of the last election. But, if you say one thing in public, and a completely different thing is going on at your home (abstinence) then the American people should know. As I pointed out in my post, there is history of this happening to political families, and the Clinton's didn't put Chelsea out there.

"I think personally.. that she p*ssed off fearless leader and he's making sure she pays. But that's just me."

After 8 years of Karl Rove politics I can understand why you would feel that way. I don't think that Obama could careless about Sarah Palin, these attacks on her kids are not coming from the white house, or the DNC. They are coming from bloggers who either hate Palin, or just need a life. If you look at some of the post on here, you will see the same thing happening to Obama.

"I also remember that BEFORE the election and subsequent loss to the Dems....she was not treated so terribly bad."

I didn't know who she was before the election, and nor did many Americans. She had a high approval rating, and was pretty need to politics, so people didn't know much about her.

"It's only since the election that the press has gone mad...and others outside of politics and the press have joined in...with hate for her."

You can say the same of Obama, FOX News had people on their network who called him a terrorist. They even had a regular on there say that he should be killed, and no reaction at all to the comment by the FOX "reporter". How many people have threatened to kill Palin because she is running for office?

"Why? She's a threat to their perfect little UTOPIA...coming soon to a country near you!"

I don't think she is a threat to anything, she seams to be as like most other politicans. I really don't any differences at all between her, and the rest of the bunch, except for maybe where she came from.

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You need to get your facts right gov Palin's daughter Bristol was going on 18 years old when she was expecting her child.
Gov Palin said her infant son was mocked by nasty and mean adults because of his birth defect.
Speaking of girl's 14 how many notches are on your belt?

Rose, that last comment of yours was uncalled for and disgusting...even for you.

Love you, Kennyrose!!!!

The child was mocked on the Huffington blog...did I get that name right? The same blog who's owner was privileged to be invited to the White House to ask a staged question of Obama. NOw...draw your own conclusions, but my opinion.... is this was a direct result of orders from up top. He won the election mainly from support on the internet...being the first candidate to use the web so extensively...now what makes you think he won't use it to ridicule and harass those who oppose him?

When a society accepts the ridicule of children and jokes about r*p*ing a 14 year old girl...we are looking at it's imminent demise.

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OK I have to get nasty and say that you are a fraud and a hypocrite because you say that politicians children should never be spoken ill of, but here you are rose, insinuating that Chelsea Clinton may have had an abortion. Do you realize that you are a hypocrite?

Doing a quick search I did find evidence of bloggers mocking Trig and using this excuse for doing so: All the attacks on Trig are Sarah's fault, according to the Wonkette post, since Sarah had the audacity to bring Trig on stage at the Republican National Convention (where the original photo in question was taken), which Wonkette calls using Trig as a "cheap political prop."

Since all politicians parade their families on stage wouldn't that speak the same for the others? That they are all parading their kids as a "cheap political prop"?

Oh and here's another: Sarah is to blame for all the new Photoshops of Trig, according to the Wonkette post, because Sarah complained about Biegel:

The Virgin Palin, Our Lady of Eternal Anger, gave birth to the New Jesus at some point last year — or not, who knows, and now Andrew Sullivan just cares about Iran (which is a good thing!) so we’ll never find out the truth — and ever since it has been both a Cardinal/Venial Sin and Sharia Law that no mortal shall “desecrate” an image of the Sacred One … no one but Sarah Palin herself, because Allah both allows and encourages the use of the Holy Infant as a cheap political prop as long as such cruel hackery is performed by the Virgin Palin herself.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/06/wonkette-goes-after-trig-palin-again.html

It's early am and yes, I know these aren't true media but considering the fact people took blogs as gospel truth when it came to anything anti-palin I think it still qualifies. However, I'll search more later on and let you know what I come up with.

Ken, aren't you doing what you just said is wrong: Attacking the family of politican? How crazy are you? I want to see the proof that you have that Chelsea Clinton ever had an abortion.

Irish, I am not approving of the comments made by some about Trig. But, how many times did you hear Sarah Palin say: "as a mother of a special needs child". How many times did you see pictures of Trig with the family, and other wise? I would have to agree that the campaign did use her family, and Trig was in alot of stump speeches. That doesn't mean that saying bad things about the child is justified, but the campain sure did use him.

Bloggers aren't main stream media, I know that many republican bloggers think they are members of the media, but they aren't.

"Since all politicians parade their families on stage wouldn't that speak the same for the others? That they are all parading their kids as a "cheap political prop"?"


I agree with that, and when they are attacked by the media, or questioned then their parents are the ones to blame for this. As a parent your kids are the most important thing in your life, and they should come first.

"It's early am and yes, I know these aren't true media but considering the fact people took blogs as gospel truth when it came to anything anti-palin I think it still qualifies. However, I'll search more later on and let you know what I come up with."

Blogs aren't main steam media, and I can find hundreds of blogs that say that Obama is a muslim terrorist who wants to convert the entire country to islam. Does that mean that all republicans think that our president is a muslim terrorist? NO

So what exactly are you saying debater? That those of us with special needs children should be ashamed to announce we have a special needs child? Lock em up in the closet? Whisper about our "family secret"? I'm the lowest of the low because I say I am the mother of a special needs child? What exactly are you accusing us parents of special needs child of? How dare us not have an abortion? How dare us love and care about our children? How dare us hope for their future?

You can read at least one attack mocking her son Trig if you go to my discussion about the Huffington Post article entitled "Palin Will Run in '12 on More Retardation Platform". Then tell me that there are no despicable attacks on this woman's children. They ridiculed a disabled baby, for crying out loud.

Irish, don't even try to go there, I have two children with ADD. But, I don't go out telling everyone I know that I have specail needs children. Like I said in my post I don't agree with people attacking Trig, but if it wasn't for either her, or the McCain people, we would have never known that she had a specail needs child. How do you think this kid is going to feel when he gets older? Yet, for months everytime she made her stump speech that was all that we heard, as if she was the only one in the world that had a specail needs child.

Do you tell everyone you know that you have a special needs child? Do you want a medal for having a specail needs child? You know as well as I do, if she wouldn't have told us, we wouldn't have known. Parents should put their kids at the front of their lives, and we all know that Sarah didn't in this case.

Rollo, I can send you to a site that claims that the world is doing to end today. I can send you to a link where people think that Obama is a muslim terrorist who wants to destroy the US. I don't go the the Huffington Post, nor do I use links for huffinton, they are a blog. I don't use blogs as fact, they are not ment to be.

Considering that down syndrome has physical attributes to it don't you think people would notice? It isn't like my daughter's autism or your kids ADD. How many times has one of your kids had an ADD moment and you got that "don't you know how to handle your kid" look? Where your parenting was blamed and not the disability? If you've never experienced that then you are probably the only one in the world.

And yes, I do tell people my daughter has a disability. Right after they call me a bad parent because my daughter does something that comes directly from her disability. Pretty much makes them look foolish.

Irish, everytime you saw Trig he was either covered up, or you didn't even see his face. I am sure later in life you will see the effects, but during the campaign no one would have noticed.

Yes I have had that "can't you handle your kids look before, but I deal with it as it comes, I don't try to make anyone feel stupid. I don't want the first thing that peole think of when they see my children to be "those kids have ADD", I want them to know that they can do everything that all of the other kids can do. They might just need some help doing it. Our kids are different, but they shouldn't think that they can't be kids.

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Covered up?! I can go anywhere and find a baby "covered up". I could probably google pictures of babies that are covered up and hit over a thousand. Kind of grasping at straws aren't ya?

lololol. .so let me get this straight. kennyrose said in the same breath both that she doesn't resort to gossip and lies at the same time she says that Chelsea Clinton might have had an abortion. rofl.

"Covered up?! I can go anywhere and find a baby "covered up". I could probably google pictures of babies that are covered up and hit over a thousand. Kind of grasping at straws aren't ya?"


Irish, what are you smoking? Most of the early pictures of Trig he was covered in a blanket. Do you disagree with that? I have no idea what you are talking about. I challenge you to pick out what kids have Down's Syndrome and which ones don't while covered up in a blanket.

I found one set of pictures all from the same photo shoot where Sarah is carrying him in a sling and he is covered by the sling. I hardly call that proof. Most newborns and tiny infants are covered up. My own granddaughter liked to have her face covered up when she was going to sleep. You cover a baby's face in the hot sun or cover them when it is cold outside. Some babies have a sense of security being covered. Any mother knows this.
You come up with the most ridiculous nonsense when you try (unsuccessfully) to prove you're right. Whatever I'm smoking can't be half as good as what you're toking on.

Whats wrong with making a mistake and then going out and helping others not make the same mistake???

So a coke head goes from the ditches to the rehab and goes to High schools to show what can happen if you do it, same thing I think.

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As for the comment that not one Republican stood up and condemned Rush for his remarks.....I don't know one Republican that approves of Rush's methods and ways on the air. They may like and approve of his stand on the issues, but not his way of delivering them. He's not the leader of the Republican party by any means. In fact, I live in a pretty Democratic area of the country....and they like to listen to him more than the Republicans lol. I was not involved in political issues back when that happened...but I WOULD have said it was unacceptable.

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