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|  I hear a lot about government intrusion and I am not an advocate of the government taking so much control over our lives. But this law that is going through is horrifying! It would change all that we eat in our world and is dangerous to anyone wanting good clean food for themselves and their family. This was sent to me from a friend and I have been studying this for some time with growing apprehention. I urge everyone to look at this and then contact your political representatives on this subject!
Billions of People Expected to Die Under Current Codex Alimentarius Guidelines
Barbara Minton
Natural News
July 21, 2009
Your right to eat healthy food and use supplements of your choice is rapidly vanishing, but every effort has been made to keep you in the dark about the coming nutricide. Codex Alimentarius is scheduled for full global implementation on December 31, 2009, and not a word has been spoken in main stream media about this threat to humanity. Yet, according to the projections of the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), a minimum of 3 billion people will die from the Codex mandated vitamin and mineral guideline alone. As the clock ticks toward this irrevocable deadline, the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF) and its medical director, Dr. Rima Laibow, are feverishly working to change Codex guidelines. They need your help.
Former Nazi is father of contemporary Codex
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Herman Schmitz
Forner Nazi Hermann Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply.
Codex is the enemy of everyone except those who will profit from it, according to Dr. Laibow. She points to its association with those who committed crimes during the Nazi regime. At the end of World War II, the Nuremberg tribunal judged Nazis who had committed horrendous crimes against humanity and sentenced them to prison terms. One of those found guilty was the president of the megalithic corporation I.G. Farben, Hermann Schmitz. His company was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, and had extraordinary political and economic power and influence with the Hitlerian Nazi state. Farben produced the gas used in the Nazi gas chambers, and the steal for the railroads built to transport people to their deaths.
While serving his prison term, Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply. When he got out of prison, he went to his friends at the United Nations (UN) and laid out a plan to take over the control of food worldwide. A trade commission called Codex Alimentarius (Latin for food code) was re-created under the guise of it being a consumer protection commission. But Codex was never in the business of protecting people. It has always been about money and profits at the expense of people.
In 1962, the timetable was set for Codex to be fully implemented on a global level by December 31, 2009. Under Codex, committees were established to create guidelines on such topics as fish and fisheries, fats and oils, fruits and vegetables, ground nuts, nutrition, food for specialized uses, and vitamins and minerals. There were 27 committees in all, creating a huge bureaucracy. Under Codex there are over 4,000 guidelines and regulations on everything that can be put into your mouth with the exception of pharmaceuticals which are not regulated by Codex.
Codex is a weapon being used to reduce the level of nutrition worldwide
Codex is an industry dominated regulation setting organization, and as such has no legal standing. Participation in Codex is said to be voluntary. But Codex has risen to the level of de facto legal standing because Codex is administered by the WHO and FAO. They fund it and run it at the request of the UN. Since the WHO and FAO are supposed to be about health, there is conflict of interest. The committees of Codex work up guidelines, rules and regulations, and present them to a Codex commission for ratification. Once they are ratified and approved by consensus, they become mandatory for any country that is a member of the WHO.
Codex was accepted when the WTO was formed in 1994 as a means of harmonizing food standards globally for easy trade between countries. As a result, countries must harmonize with Codex if they want to have any standing in a trade dispute. When disputes arise and countries are pulled in to WTO, the one that is Codex compliant automatically wins, regardless of the merits of its case.
Dr. Laiblow sees codex as a weapon to make every nation scurry to become compliant to the decline in nutritional standards. She points out that compliance in the U.S. will mark the end of its consumer protection laws. Codex will not serve consumers. Codex will serve the interests of the medical, pharmaceutical, biotechnology, chemical, and big agricultural industries.
Under Codex, nutrients are classified as poisons
The Dietary Substances Health and Education Act (DSHEA), was signed into law in 1994 for the purpose of ensuring that safe and appropriately labeled products would remain available to those who wanted to use them. In the findings associated with this law, Congress stated that there may be a positive relationship between sound dietary practice and good health, and a connection between dietary supplement use, reduced health-care expenses, and disease prevention. Under DSHEA, nutrients and herbs are classified as food. There is no upper limit set, and access is freely given. Americans are allowed to have any nutrients they want, because under English common law, anything that is not expressly forbidden is permitted.
Codex, on the other hand, is based on Napoleonic law under which anything not expressly permitted is forbidden. Therefore, only what is expressly allowed under Codex will be permitted, and everything else is forbidden. In 1994, the same year DSHEA was signed, Codex had nutrients declared to be toxic and poisonous. And as poisons, they claimed people must be protected from them through the use of toxicology and risk assessment, under which scientists test small doses on animals until they are able to discern an impact. They then take the first sign of the most minimal impact and divide this amount by 100 to establish a safety margin required from these poisons. This means that the largest dose of any nutrient allowed under Codex is 1/100th of the amount shown to produce the first discernable impact.
Nutrients allowed under codex are limited to those on the positive list, expected to contain only 18 nutrients, one of them being fluoride. Dr. Laibow points out that although fluoride has no biological benefit whatsoever, it does make people complacent.
The codex proponents now have several bills before Congress designed to overturn and get rid of DSHEA. Once this is accomplished, the U.S. will have been harmonized with the vitamin and mineral guidelines of codex. High potency, therapeutically effective, significant nutrients will then be illegal in the way that heroin is illegal. They will not even be available by prescription.
Codex supports toxic food additives, pesticides and GM foods
So do you think this is true and if so are you worried? If not why do you think it's bunk?
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1.  ravirai8616561 (803)
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3 years ago
| |  I think u are a personb who worries and takes tension too much.Liuve life to the fullest and let others also live happily.Life should be as enjoyable as possible.You should not worry about these laws.Eat what u want to and get the things done like the way u want.Have a good day
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 dlr297 (2879)
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3 years ago
| |  If these laws pass we will all have to worry, and we will not be able to live life to the fullest, because we will not be allowed to be healthy, We should all worry about laws that are being passed, all of them because they effect us all. The point is we will not be able to eat what we want. More people need to open their eyes and pay attention to what is going on.
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| Vitality (33)
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3 years ago
| |  I know this is true and have heard and read about it before. I believe it is a tremendous risk to personal choice, health and freedom. Evil only succeeds when good men (women) do nothing. We should all be taking action now by contacting our representatives in Congress and both educating them on this issue and telling them where we stand. I write to every Congress person from my state and whenever I can determine who they are the heads of the committees where the bills are being considered. I've also written to the bills sponsors before. We are a government of the people, so if we sit idly by and do nothing while Companies like Codex spend millions getting their side heard we will soon loose the rights and freedoms that are the basis for our daily living. How can we afford to ignore things like this?
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| OreoCookie3 (22470)
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3 years ago
| |  I just checked this out with Snopes.. and it is just a circulating email which is not true. Here is the link and it shows where this rumor comes from. There are all kinds of conspiracy theories out there, and this is just another one. If the government kills everyone, who will be around to pay their taxes to support it?
http://www.snopes.com/pol...
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 hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | I did see the snopes thing and as usual they talk crap. The idea is that the codex bill will only effect dietary supplements not vitamins and minerals. What do you think vitamins and minerals are? I sell Natures Sunshine products as well as take them. They would control a company that has done me more good than all the bullshi* that the doctors have given me in the last 50 years.
You say I'm a chicken little....running around and spreading rumors.....look at the facts. If they get control of your food and you can't get what you want without chemicals on it or you can't get the kinds of good food you want then don't come crying to me....I've done all I can to warn everyone.... | | | |
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Sorry you feel that way. I don't put crap out to frighten people. I'm not the boogie man.
I am someone concerned about peoples health and my right to have clean water, food and air.
If you are threatened by that I'm sorry.
Here is another link on this subject....don't take my word for it. Look up the regs that codex is trying to pass and then come back and we'll have a talk.
www.healthfreedomusa.org | | | |
| OreoCookie3 (22470)
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3 years ago
| | Going to the PDF file I see no conspiracy here. I find it sound. There is no reason to put extra vitamins and minerals in foods that are not necessarily needed. I don't see this as a way to kill the American people or the people around the world. Sorry.. but I don't see it. Everyone has an opinion and can give their slant.... just like Obama and health care.. everyone has an opposing opinion and conspiracy theories.. doesn't mean they are indeed fact.
http://www.wellsphere.com...
I'm not threatened at all by what you said there... I just don't feel the email you got was accurate. | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Well if you think that the government does things right then I have nothing I can say to you. If on the other hand you think that they could screw up a first grade report then I ask you to think whether you believe that the government should be put in charge of your health. Because this administration is doing all it can to control everything you do, eat, wear, drive, and how you live and eventually how you die. It's up to you to believe they are in the best interest of your life or not. I personally think they've gone bonkers.... | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | May I ask you Oreo whether you actually ever look at the links or do you just run to Snopes first? Because it seems like you don't ever think they are a problem...you do know that Snopes is nothing more than a husband/wife team don't you? Do you believe two people over the millions of us that are against this bill? | | | |
| bigpinkmomma (400)
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3 years ago
| |  Thanks for looking this up on Snopes. You saved me a trip . Any time I see stuff like this I always go to Snopes for verification. It saves me a lot of time and energy.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Big Pink,
Are you not willing to think for yourself? Do you think that everything that is decided by two people is true? It seems to me that you are being just a little lazy when it comes to finding out the truth...otherwise why would you not even look at the links that I've shown? | | | |
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| 3. heathcliff (811)
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3 years ago
| |  I'm more concerned with Neo-Nazis gathering around crop circles to summon Bigfoot and his spaceship army to travel back in time and genetically build new dinosaurs with genetically engineered viruses that turn humans into zombies while keeping the only cure for themselves in their New World Order bunker.
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| bigpinkmomma (400)
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3 years ago
| | Healthcliff, I am ROTFL (Rolling on the Floor laughing )at your reply . | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Big surprise big...big surprise.... | | | |
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| 4. jmowreader (67)
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3 years ago
| | Hornswaggled, you should actually READ the Codex--specifically CAC/GL 55-2005, which covers (and sets uniform standards for) supplements. The only people who are pushing this "Codex is evil" line are the ones selling worthless supplements.
Among the "evil" things in CAC/GL 55-2005 are the requirement that any supplement contain at least 15 percent of the minimum daily requirement of whatever nutrients are listed on the label. If I was selling pills that didn't contain any of the nutrients they claim to contain--most of these are sold via MLM--I'd be worried sick about Codex. The rest of us should be okay with it. | | | | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | NO is isn't. I have read the bill...have you? I am working with a company that is very reputable and it will be affected by this bill. I don't want anyone telling me what I can and cannot put into my body. And by controlling what they are allowed to sell it affects ME> And it affects you only you don't think it will.....read it. | | | |
| jmowreader (67)
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3 years ago
| | Have I read it? Yes.
BTW, if this "reputable" company is an MLM...dude, no MLM is reputable. | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | First of all I'm not a "dude" and second of all I'm not selling a product. I'm teaching an idea that someone can be healthy by taking supplements and changing their lifestyle to help their body.
The fact that I get compensated for using a product and letting my clients use the same product does not make it a bad thing. I would n't use most of the supplements out there unless I knew they were a reputable company. They don't sell crap.
If you think all MLM's are bad then you aren't informed! | | | |
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| 5. Sweeten (150)
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3 years ago
| |  I don't think this is true considering it IS an email and I am not worried about it because if it was that important we all would have heard about it in the media etc. and not just from a random email.
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6.  scarlet_woman (11395)
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3 years ago
| |  hmm..soylent green,anyone?
that's what it reminds me of.
here,eat this food instead,it has everything you need.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | That's what I'm thinking but everyone here seems to think I'm the one that's too worried.I don't think I'm just concerned that too much government intervention is a bad thing! | | | |
| scarlet_woman (11395)
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3 years ago
| | i just don't put anything past them.
if they can,they probably will. | | | |
| debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| |  I have had thoughts and questions about the food supply for a long while. Not only is our food over processed, but it is grown in nutrient poor soil to begin with. Then we create hybrids that may or may not have what we need...it is more than Vitamin A,B, C, D, and E you know. Our food industry IS killing us. We take out what is good and add what causes cancers, obesity, and a host of other degenerative diseases. Then the government turns around and tells us that WE need to stop eating all this sugar and processed food and hydorgenated oils..and then financially subsidize the industry that is turning it out for us.
Does that make sense? Science supports the need for eating closer to what nature provides. If we can't reasonably do that because of finances or because we live in the areas where it is impractible...supplements ARE necessary for health.
The government is notorious for misinformation. The money and the power are in the big pharmaceutical companies and big farming industry. They have billions at their disposal to create LIES and the regulatory bodies are paid off to support the lies.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | And the thing is Deb; the supplements that I take; that you want to take are going to be suspect! How would you like to be me and maybe have the one thing that is getting me well taken away! I had asthma for over 30 years and now I do not. But if they take the supplements away that I am using then I'm at their mercy with the poisons they want me to use. So then I'm stuck aren't I? It's a huge issue for most of us in the herbal world and it's only gonna get worse.
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| witmuch (124)
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3 years ago
| |  I had scoliosis growing up and had my teachers sending me twice a year to the nurses office for the screenings. I was healed of scoliosis in 2005! NO MEDS! NO DOCOTRS! X-RAYS FROM CHIROPRACTERS AND THE HOSPITALS I WENT TO COMPLETELY AGAINST EACH OTHER (SHOWED OPPOSITE RESULTS)! I am healed and free of scoliosis.
I was also healed of migrains and asthma. Same thing, no meds, no doctors, just be believing that I am healed and that I did not need the medications the doctors were trying to force in me.
So are you telling me and everyone here that your have been healed from Asthma by using natural herbs and natural medicines? YAY! I would not necessarily put all of my trust in those supplements, herbs, and natural medicines because you are right, they will not be around forever.
I personally hate taking things that do not need to be in my body and I do eat the things that I want. There will be no one on this planet that will ever tell me what I can and cannot eat, but I will not be getting an attitude with every person in this world that does not have the same opinion as me. That is selfish and wrong. You can give information to people in many forms, but it is the way that you present that information that makes the difference. Attitude only makes things worse and causes strife and stressfull environments for you and others reading the posts. I can understand where you are coming from and all, but your attitude toward others on here seems to be on the defense even before anyone can even reply to your discussion.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Your right wit,
I am too defensive but it's the condescending attitude that somehow two people named Snopes are the Gods of knowledge that gets me hot....and people swallow that bilge!
I don't care if they don't believe me but I don't like being told that I'm lying because it came in an email or that because of Snopes it can't possibly be right...
I just want people to think for THEMSELVES...and not be sheep....that is so very frightening.
And it's frightening because if this becomes what people believe then this thing will pass and we will all be screwed....not just the ones that want to take meds but all of us that don't.
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| mrakobesie (739)
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3 years ago
| |  hm... i don't know what email everyone is talking about, i found out about codex from a video from 2005. it's a woman from healthfreedomusa.org giving a speech, 40 minutes, but i's worth it. look it up in google videos, search for nutricide and pick the one that is 40:07 minutes. it's worth it...
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | The email is what I put in the discussion...the original one.
I said it was from a friend but if it's an email around here no one believes it. Never mind that this person that I got this from is an expert in the field of health freedom; that she's worked tirelessly for over 15 years to help Coloradan's get health freedoms.... | | | |
| mrakobesie (739)
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3 years ago
| | oh... i got so exited reading the rest of your post that i forgot how it started lol... sry... | | | |
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8.  machizmo (300)
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3 years ago
| |  That is quite a post. I do not I would worry as much about it. There are many possibilities in life. No one group or entity knows what the future holds.
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| 9. Ruthep (7334)
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3 years ago
| |  I am a believer in getting as many nutrient as possible from foods alone. I also believe in growing what you can if at all possible. It is fresher an healthier and you know what pesticide are and aren't used.
But I will have to read more about this with the link you are giving out. I had never heard of it before now.
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10.  ladybugmagic (896)
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3 years ago
| |  I think it is true. People are getting very ill with flouride being forced in their drinking water. It shows no health benefit, and has been disputed as a dental benefit. The world government knows that our planet earth is running out of resources and are selecting a certain amount of people to keep alive.
Let's remember how much HIV-infected blood knowingly made its way to people who needed transfusions. Population control. Rather than find a way to live where more things are sustainable, they would rather off people, just to lead a greedy life.
It's lame, really, that we all sit back and do nothing.
Please watch zeitgeistmovie.com, the addendum, and the ecoteric agenda.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Thanks Lbm,
I will look at those things...I'm always looking for things to help all of us...even if some here think I'm just a conspiracist..... | | | |
| ladybugmagic (896)
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3 years ago
| | Also look up KYMATICA FILM, you can find it on google videos. It says a lot about what you posted. Very similar information, very well documented. | | | |
| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | Thanks Lady,
I love it when people actually go out there and look up some of the things we are trying to discuss here and not just poo poo it! | | | |
| ladybugmagic (896)
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3 years ago
| | Oooh! I think you will love this. I remembered it when responding to a post about a utopia. This project is so fascinating. Their aim is to do away with the monetary system, and keep everyone from being a slave to the dollar.
www.thevenusproject.com | | | |
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | I've known about the fluoridation for years...and it's absolutely awful! I live on a farm and thought I was exempt from this kind of pollution but then this year they admitted (drug companies) to dumping their excess into our waterways! And half the people here on the lot that responded to my discussion didn't believe it!
I feel like I'm beating my head against a stone wall most of the time here....sigh.... | | | |
| ladybugmagic (896)
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3 years ago
| | I totally hear you. It's hard to convince people to shift their way of thinking. Some people prefer denial, and some are just unaware of it completely. I love that the internet provides us full access to information the American (and other) media supresses.
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| hornswaggled (2074)
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3 years ago
| | I do too....you do have to be careful not to believe all the blogs and things. This was intimidating for me when I first started using the internet but now I'm as comfortable here as just about anywhere in my life.
I hope that you enjoy it here at the lot as much as us "old timers"...we all seem to be addicted to this place....as my friend has said many times "Mylot is magic!" and I think she's right! | | | |
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