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myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland5 months ago

hiya MyLotters happy

I was wondering... If I put an ad up in my local shops to offer my services
... ironing services! in exchange for fruit or vegetables, would I be breaking any laws? Would it affect my jobseekers allowance?
This is assuming of course, that there is someone with an allotment to provide me with the produce.
I can't afford to buy fresh fruit and veg and stay on the internet so it's either goodbye Lot people or hello allotment people whistle
Would you put up an ad like this? Do you think it's a good idea? What would you exchange your services for... and what services would it be... keep it clean LOL


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1. myLot reputation of 92/100. SnowWhiteAndSeven (228)   ranked 100 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

That is bartering, and I think it's a great idea, if people would take you up on it! I would just ask permission from the store owner. I'm not thinking it could interefere with any unemployment as long as you're still seeking a job.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya SWAS
I thought that too and of course I will still job search, because I doubt this would be done on a big scale. It's fairly cheap to advertise in the post office window, so I will give that a try. I will have to weigh up the pros and cons because I would have less time for Lotting too. Thanx for responding thumbup

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

You could do that, or simply put up the ad, and accept cash, if they want to pay cash, then you can buy the fruit and vegetables. If you look, in some of the stores, they will have a sale buggy or section. I have gotten bags of fruit and vegetables for just a dollar each. Most times they have a bruise on them, and you can simply cut that off. The fruit and vegetables are always good enough to use, and sometimes they look just like that on the shelf.


myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2631)   ranked 6 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Alice would have to be very careful if she accepted cash for the ironing. If actual money changes hands, that probably would affect whatever jobseeker allowance she gets. I can easily see people willing to trade fruits and veggies from their gardens (I've always had a surplus from mine) for ironing. Personally I HATE to iron, so it would be a no-brainer for me.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya Shirley
I would most probably stick to the bartering as it would be a better trade, fresher fruit and veg and as Cat has pointed out, I would have to be careful of accepting cash as that would definately affect my benefit. I normally go to the bargain sections when I go shopping and all that certainly helps. Would you do this too, or sometihng like this if you had to?

@Cat... shame we don't live by one another, that would be a terrific set up between us thumbup


myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Are you kidding? I barter and trade all the time. It sure does work for me. I have not paid cash for hardly anything in my mobile home. Very few items, have i actually paid cash for. I even did a barter and trade on getting my mobile home moved, and then on the porch to go on the front of it. Heck, i don't see how people make it, by laying out so much cash.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

I guess I barter and trade more than I think I do, I mean I'm always swapping somebody something for something else but on a small scale. I just need to get it done on a grander scale and use my services to obtain things I want too. You did great getting your house move! thumbup


myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

In today's world, i don't think most people will do that anymore, on moving a mobile home, i mean. I think they have to turn in time, and mileage on those trucks when they crank them up to do a job. Most movers will only accept cash to my knowledge. I traded my travel trailer in on the moving, and ... he is letting me keep the travel trailer until we get the mobile home finished. I think he is an excellent person for doing that. We are working on getting the electricity run over to the mobile home now, and i just sold all my chickens and turkeys so that i could afford to get that done. Wish me luck, sure hope we made enough. My sister has sold a lot of her chickens as well, just to help me out.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Good luck with that Shirley thumbup


myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

happyThanks very much. Just wanted to let you know the results of our sale on chickens and turkeys: 400.00


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Excellent! thumbup you can get a few more bags of fruit and veg now too.


myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Not a chance. We sold those chickens, so that i can get my electricity run up to my mobile home. That is going to cost a bundle, and well, most electricians won't barter and trade. Has to be cash.

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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2631)   ranked 6 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

Breaking laws?? Welllll...I guess it depends on what you iron w00t.
Seriously, What you are suggesting is bartering, and I can't see how that would affect your jobseekers allowance (unless there are specific rules against it). People have been bartering since the dawn of time, it preceeds money. I used to live in a very rural community in Massachusetts where amongst my neighbors was a tree man, an auto mechanic, a chiropractor, a hairdresser and a man that worked for the telephone company. I worked for a fertilizer company at the time. With the bartering we did between us, we all had plenty of firewood, great running cars, extra phonelines in our homes, great hairdos and wonderful gardens. And no backaches for our labors...lol. All was accomplished without money changing hands.
If you're trading equal value for equal value, there isn't need for money. So give it a try, and enjoy the fruits (and vegetables) of your labors.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya Cat
lol LOL well I would be very specific about the items of clothing!
I have thought on bartering for some time now and I think that many people are beginning to see the light! I don't believe that the government or any government office can touch it as long as there is no money exchanging hands, but I would have to find out for sure.
That sounds like a perfect place to live Cat, and with hairdo's too! thumbup Thanx for the encouragement...and for responding happy


myLot reputation of 89/100. ShirleyBillingsley (900)   ranked 21 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

You are right. There is no money changing hands, therefore, no law to prohibit a barter or trade.


myLot reputation of 99/100. catdla1 (2631)   ranked 6 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

With the economy hurting almost everyone's pockets, I'm surprised that more people haven't turned to bartering. Maybe what communites need is to have some one start up bartering clubs, or even bartering gazettes (online). After all, everyone wants things and everyone has a skill or stuff to barter. There's an organization here called freecycle.org, where people post merchandise they will give away, as wellpeople posting for merchandise they need. It has gotten huge with chapters for individual areas all over the country. Some one should start something similar, but also include labor.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

It would be good to start up a club too Cat, but it would have to think of overheads too, electricity, rental of the building etc. Maybe donations would keep it open for a while, but I can't see any reason for it not to take off. Brilliant idea! thumbup

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4. myLot reputation of 55/100. TheModfather (292)   ranked 41 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

i honestly can't see anything wrong with it. you won't be recieving a cash payment and you will still be available for work. it might be best to check with your jobcentre to avoid any risk but i should think you will be allowed to do that. good luck thumbup

i would exchange my services for free beer in my local. the service would be emptying my glass at least every thirty minutes lol


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2642)   ranked 15 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

That's using the ol' noggin!


myLot reputation of 55/100. TheModfather (292)   ranked 41 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

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myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya Robert happy
That's actually something that I've seen going on..well not emptying the glass in return, but collecting the empties. It was a local man that used to do it in the local pub and he did it for years.
I might write a letter because I don't want people listening to my business when I go to the job centre. Thanks for responding thumbup

@mykl..very clever.. a noggin is a measure as well as slang for the head thumbup


myLot reputation of 55/100. TheModfather (292)   ranked 41 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

alice you beat me to it, i couldn't remember what i noggin was apart from slang for a head hence just the thumbs up.

those glass collectors are a dying trend, i used to see one in a pub here but he died, that was years ago.

good idea to write or phone, i hate discussing stuff in the jobcentre, the desks are too close together.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Yeah I think it's a fifth of a gill Rob.
If it was just a matter of discussing at the sign on then I could deal with that in a whisper lol, but to just go there for forms we have to go to the main desk which is right out in the open rolleyes


myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11935)   ranked 3 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

You can come and be glass collector here!
There's always need for them at weekends! thumbup


myLot reputation of 55/100. TheModfather (292)   ranked 41 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

me? right where's my passport...i have a job at last happy


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Geez a job rasp lol


myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11935)   ranked 3 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

If you're good with a fan I could throw that in too -
it's darn HOT here surrender


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Is there only one post available? rasp


myLot reputation of 67/100. RobertSixtySeven (151)   ranked 125 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  4 months ago

too late, i filled it:)


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  4 months ago

rasp I'll find a job soon and I hope you're new position is rewarding and fullfilling thumbupbthumbup

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (2642)   ranked 15 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

I can't forsee any legal problems with it; it really sounds like a cool idea. thumbup

I am rather the electronics nut, so I would exchange my expertise for pizza or french fries...onion rings for the intricate stuff. lol


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya lamb
Excellent choice thumbup Food is always going to be a necessity and electronics will always be around too so you'd be onto a win win situation.
Just don't tell them you want lamb chops rasp
Thanks for the advice I will check it out to make sure. thumbup


myLot reputation of 78/100. mysdianait (11935)   ranked 3 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

... did he say 'pizza'? whistle


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

yep! lol he said onion rings too drool

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6. myLot reputation of 82/100. jb78000 (1673)   ranked 36 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

hiya i think some areas have groups where you exchange goods and services - pretty sure yours will but can't remember if it's a big thing like freecycle or just local groups - i think places like healthfood shops might know or just do a search. i've done language swaps a few times and would quite happily do some tutoring in exchange for pet care when i'm on holiday. jb


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya JB how's you?
I basically got to thinking about it due to the council tax lol. I was looking up help for info on what to do if anybody were faced with a poinding/warrant sale and came across a website called Indymedia. I signed up for the newsletter and was eventually sent an email to visit the offices where the same type of trade and barter goes on. I may actually go there for my first step forward and some sound advice.
What languages do you speak? Great idea swap for the petcare, I hope they would be willing to look after the type of pet you have! happy


myLot reputation of 82/100. jb78000 (1673)   ranked 36 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

fine now after all the break in stuff and whatnot the last few weeks- how're you? anyway it's only spanish and english with bits (and i mean bits) of some others but i teach tefl so i've often swapped english for a foreign language - although it only works really well with someone else who's a teacher. jb


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Ahh of course it would be more difficult otherwise.
I am not too bad J.. up and down .. you know


myLot reputation of 82/100. jb78000 (1673)   ranked 36 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

well i've done it when abroad with various friends who weren't teachers and it wasn't that bad, but it's really difficult to get native speakers to correct you if they're not teachers...


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Don't you think it's better to know the local lingo though?


myLot reputation of 82/100. jb78000 (1673)   ranked 36 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

that's what i meant - swapping english for whatever the language is where i was staying

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10255)   ranked 11 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

HI Alice! This does NOT fall under the heading of 'self employment' I do believe you are perfectly within your right s to do this. It's also called 'bartering' & regularpeople like you & I do tis, also businesses do this too. I have done this before. I have traded house cleaning for fresh fruits & veggies when I lived in Tucson. If I were to do it now I would help someone else out & give them pistachio nuts for cleaning my house. They are $9.00 a bag, & Iwould figure to pay them $9.00 an hour for cleaning. That way we both will make out pretty well....I would do it if I were you Alice...Great idea!!Lori


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Hiya Lori
You seem very sure of what you're saying here and I believe you thumbup
I am so excited now.. not just for myself and what I could be able to do to help myself, but to think of it on a grand scale. WOW! can you imagine if EVERYBODY started to do it? woooohoooo goodbye money grabbing politicians w00t
OMG! another one I could trade with... I love pistachios but they are one of the most expensive nuts thumbdown I think I'm living in the wrong country LOL
How big a bag is it? Thanx Lori


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10255)   ranked 11 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

thumbupthumbupthumbupHi Alice! I am so glad you are so excited about this! This is how business's get started! You could have a notebook with all kinds of things that different people could barter for! You could 'put' them together & make smething of of it for yourself also.. I'm excited for you!
Our bags of nuts are one pound each. So that is $9.00 a pound. But just reember you re getting FRESH nuts, 3 days off of the tree!! It takes a day to pick, a day to cook, & a day to package up for sale. You'll never get any fresher nuts anywhere unles you do them your self.. i'll PM u my email address.... await further instuctions..lol...LOri


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

A notebook.. a business plan...wey! hey! girl you're getting me off the dole queue thumbup lol If that were ever to happen i'd like to see their response in the furure when they ask how I've supported myself and i say.. I started believing in people wink


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10255)   ranked 11 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

I'm so happy I had a part in this I hope you can get this off the ground! start by asking your neighbors if they have something they need done, & also ask them what would they be willingto trade for sid services. This has the potential to be BIG. I'm gonna talk it over with my fiance & see if I can start doing this also.. Who knew we would start a business so far apart from each other...Lori

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myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Excellent! thumbup I'm sure we will be keeping in touch about it all outside of the Lot too thumbup


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10255)   ranked 11 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

You can better believe we will Alice this is a great business adventure... start small think BIG..Lori


myLot reputation of 92/100. dumblnddzzy (10255)   ranked 11 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  4 months ago

Thank you Alice for Best Response! I do hope this will work out for you....Lori

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8. lovefei (17)   ranked 149 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

You are a creative boy.Everyone have their right to creat some new things or ideas.
You can have a try.If you success,you will be a winner and find a new way.We are always behind you!Good luck!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

hiya lovefei welcome to MyLot happy
I've been called a few things in my time but never a boy! lol
I think that's a very important point you have made here.. we could all be winners if we found a new way, because this sytem is crumbling. thumbup

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9. myLot reputation of 94/100. LadyMarissa (2674)   ranked 30 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

I don't know the laws in the UK, but bartering is becoming very popular here & a perfectly acceptable practice. The only way it becomes a problem is if the amount exceeds what is considered allowable. Here those on Social Security Disability are allowed to earn $400/month. A record must be kept on what has been traded & the value of that trade. If the $400 is exceeded it causes a problem; if not, it's not counted as income. I'm not familiar with the unemployment compensation laws but I think they are similar. I've known friends on unemployment & they were allowed to work as a day laborer. As long as they didn't have a full time job, their assistance didn't change. You might want to check with your local office & ask them if bartering for food is prohibited. GOOD LUCK!!!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

Hiya LadyM
I know that here in the UK the unemployed are allowed to earn a certain amount too (it used to be £15 per week) in cash before it affected their benefit, but have no idea on exchanging services for food. It could very well be the same over here that the goods could only total to a certain amount. I will find out and let everyone know how I get on. Thanks for the encouragement. thumbup

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10. myLot reputation of 89/100. sconibear (2525)   ranked 48 out of 261 in alice_in_webland   5 months ago

sounds like a great idea to me. thumbup


I would trade with any one who has any deep fried food or baked goods for my services as................OH........sorry, I forgot about the "keep it clean" part......



nevermind. whistle


myLot reputation of 99/100. Aliceinwebland (4946)   ranked 1 out of 261 in alice_in_webland  5 months ago

ROFL lol
Well at least you left it to the readers imagination.. I hope missybear is ok with it whistle
Erm.. deep fried mars bars? and a bun in the oven rasp

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