Do you think we're headed for a revolution here in America?

@dragon54u (31633)
United States
August 30, 2009 12:17pm CST
And will it be peaceful or violent? People are really getting fed up and there is talk of a revolution on nearly all the talk radio stations. The implications of this are enormous. Are you fed up, too? Our representatives are not listening to us and in some places people are being kicked out of public places for voicing their opposition to the government. One man at Jim Moran's town hall meeting was forced to lower his protest sign as he stood outside on public property!
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• United States
31 Aug 09
There has been alot of talk about this. In fact last year they were talking about it but it seem's to be getting worse every day. I was at a forum earlier today where they are really getting into thing's. I can not say where it was but the people are talking more and more about an uprising against the government. I would not be surprised if we do see one sooner or later.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
The 9/12 movement is going to gather in DC on September 12, that might be a good show of force. If they'd take our grievances seriously, there wouldn't have to be any revolt. Then again, they could call out the Guard if the crowd is big enough... I'd like to browse around that forum but if you can't say where it is, you can't.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
31 Aug 09
[b]I deeply regret I'm unable to travel to D.C. any more. Been there twice--both times to protest. First in the 60s, from the Left, when I was a brainless hippie chick, & in the 90's when I'd grown a brain, to attend the annual pro-life rally. But there's an old rule of thumb, of which I'm sure Congress is very aware. It's a yardstick of sorts for judging the strength of public opinion. Goes like this: For every letter (or protester, etc.) you see, there are 5000 more like it that you don't who think the same. If they really understood Conservatives, that number would be far higher, because, unlike the Left, who often make their living protesting, or who are dedicated to destroying our system, thus willing to risk losing a job by not showing up, Conservatives mostly work hard, raise families, etc., & up until lately, just didn't make that much time for what they thought would go away anyhow. So, many are still going to be at home, hoping this will stop, doing what is normal. Yet they do agree with those that go! Eventually, though, the rest of them will catch on. I just hope it's not too late. I don't want a civil war, but if it comes, I know which side I'll fight on. If our forefathers & mothers felt that laying down their "lives, their fortunes, & their sacred honor" was worth it to be free, how can we do less? Did you think this was a game, people? Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Aug 09
Actually, revolution is pretty commonplace here in the US. In my own lifetime there has been many. There was the revolution of the 60 protest movement, the revolution of conservatism when Reagan was elected. Then there was the revolution when Republicans gained control of Congress. There was a revolution for the liberals when Clinton was elected. The moderate revolution happened, but it didn't accomplish much more than ushering in the current liberal revolution that we're in today. During each of the revolutions, those opposed to the powers that be have spoken out. Sometimes their protests found a voice, other times they didn't. This time the oppositions voice is being heard loud and clear.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
30 Aug 09
Thomas Jefferson said a little revolution is a good thing and I agree with him. I just hope this one isn't violent.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Aug 09
And protestors should never forget Kent State either. Namely, attacking armed soliders is not a form of protest, it is a way to get yourself killed.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
31 Aug 09
ooh...someone does not know the Kent State facts. These are well known. Some of those killed and injured were not even part of the protest, just walking by.
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@livewyre (2450)
31 Aug 09
I wonder if it makes sense to have a revolution in a country that is broadly democratic and free? (speaking as an outsider) What are the alternatives? Is it the democratic process that doesn't serve the American people? What would you have in it's place? What exactly would revolution achieve? Would anarchy (albeit the closest thing to human nature) be preferable to the relative safety and wealth enjoyed by the majority of US citizens? Maybe it's me, but I just get the feeling that a few people didn't like the way that the voting went, so they start talk of a revolution - next thing they'll be saying it's their right to have a revolution...
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
XFahctor put it very well. Our representatives don't listen to us anymore and let the government get away with violating our constitution. Most people don't want to revolt because their guy didn't get in. I didn't vote for Obama but he's my president. Only thing is, nothing he and his minions are doing is constitutional and he's violating many of our states' rights and robbing the people of freedom, slowly but surely. If he would stick to the Constitution, I wouldn't have much of a problem with him. (His very inauguration violated it if he's not a natural born citizen.)
@livewyre (2450)
1 Sep 09
OK - I think I get the picture a litle clearer now. what you are saying is that your local State representatives are ineffective in influencing the Federal Government thereby strangling the democratic process. In the UK, we have the opposite problem, the politicians are so scared of losing votes that they support populist ideas over good governence. For instance, earlier this year, Gordon Brown announced his intention to make one man pay his pension back: http://www.thecreditcruncher.com/2009/03/no-benefits-for-sir-fred.html Whilst this outcome is what the majority of people wanted, one has to question the wisdom and even legality of using the power that comes with the job of Prime Minister to pursue one man however objectionable his attitude. One of the failings of our 'democratic' system is that the majority rules whether the majority has any wisdom or morality. I support democracy only because there is not a viable alternative, but I am also fully aware of it's failings... There is no existent perfect system that I know of, I guess we are all doing what we can within our 'broken' so-called democratic societies.
• United States
30 Aug 09
I think perhaps you are not understanding the whole picture (and a picture is a huge part of it) of the story. It was on school grounds, the man was asked repeatedly very nicely and politely that he couldn't have the sign, the reason was that it had a picture, it was explained to him that rules are different on school grounds, he refused. School grounds have different rules than public property. I think a lot of people are getting out of hand over a lot of things, and need to calm down, does that mean I think we are headed for a revolution? No, not really. I just am waiting for people to be able to debate their views civilly, and I mean both sides need to calm down and change the way they are handling things. Its fine to protest, but for me, peaceful protest is the only kind of protest that I take into consideration.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
A public school is not private property--it belongs to the people and we paid for it. I agree that peaceful protest is the ideal way to change things but it just isn't working. We're losing our liberties day by day. Our representatives don't represent us but the special interests who have them in their pockets. People are getting desperate because the country is going down the drain very quickly.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
31 Aug 09
A revolution here could take many forms, the LEAST desiable is a populist uprising, ie; citizens storming the capitol and the white house and physicly carrying our elected servants out side and depositing them on the side walk on their useless, arrogent and lazy assses, or worse, an armed storming. As much as one might enjoy fatnasizing about such things, it isn't practicle, it won't be successfull and all it would do is bring down the hammer of martial law on us all. What needs to happen, and I have been harping on this point for what seems like forever now, is our states need to start taking this ciuntry back, reigning in our federal government and standing up to it, they DO have that power and authority, they just need to start using it. This is ABSOLUTELY the only way we are EVER going to get genuine change. We need to do it at the state level. Start paying a lot more attention to your state elections, your state reps, governors etc. Start electing liberty mnded people to your state government, DEMAND they represent YOu, the resident of YOUR STATE and NOT washington DC, remind them YOU are their boss, NOt congress or the president, YOU. DEMAND that your state officials refuse and forbid any action by ur federal government that is not described for it in the constitution. This is absolutely the only way we are ever going to have a successfull revolution in this country, this is absolutely the only way we are ever going to take this country back, our federal government is nothing with out the consent of our sates.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
You're right and I never thought of it that way. If the states put their foot down and don't let the feds push them around, things will get a lot better. I vote in every one of my state's elections. I read the props carefully and I keep track of who's on the take and who is really working for the people. I vote out the crooks and try to vote in good ones but the crooks seem to stay right where they are. Maybe now that people are waking up, they'll take care with their vote and use it wisely.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Aug 09
Do we get you back if there is one?
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Sure, you can have us AND our trillions of debt!
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@Fortunata (1135)
• United States
31 Aug 09
If Obama and his idiot czars continue on, and act as if they don't care about what Real Americans think, then yes, there will be a revolution. Hopefully it won't be violent.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
31 Aug 09
It's already started. I can't wait to see what the 9/12 gathering will bring but I hope they don't call out the cops and the Guard on them. I hear attendance will be in the millions!
• United States
7 Sep 09
It's obvious something needs to happen, but I think most people will wait until after the next major election in 2010. The problems is that we keep putting the same people back in office. We desperately need term limits for Congress, but they're never going to vote for that. So, it's up to the voters to get rid of those politicians who seem to be working so hard to ruin our country.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
7 Sep 09
You're right in saying we can make a difference in 2010 but something needs to be done right now before any more damage is done. Every single election I vote against the incumbent. Nearly every single time they are re-elected! People believe the lies they are told.
@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
30 Aug 09
I would really hope so. This country seems to be getting worse and worse and it's pretty bad when they try to call the political system a democracry when it's clearly a country ran by the rich. Seriously there are so many people that have to work crappy jobs every day and barely earn enough to live don't you think that there is some possible way that we could make life a little easier or better. I do believe that there are a lot of changes that could and should be made to this country to make it better.
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@K46620 (1986)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I sure hope so- and I know we are. The opportunity for it to be a peaceful revolution still exists but we are running out of time. Vote the incumbents out!!!
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
1 Sep 09
I agree. Before the people get upset beyond rationality! But 2010 elections are a long time away and it can get pretty bad before then. I hope for a revolution, but a non-violent one.
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@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
31 Aug 09
Unfortunately, yes, we are headed for something awful. We may look in the mirror and see the beaten, bloodied faces of those in Iran who protested a rigged election. Here in America, we have a traitor, usurper, illegal alien sitting in the office of "president", who hates America, and is almost finished his assignment of jihad (destruction of western civilization from within)in America. He has his brown shirt army and FEMA internment camps in place. His gangster "administration" has called those of us who dissent "terrorists", while mirandizing terrorists and saying they have "constitutional rights", while terminating ours. There is no free press, free speech is limited, soon to be zero. Our corrupt Congress has refused to do anything to remove this criminal unconstitutional usurper, so everything he does is unconstitutional as he and his ilk intend to rule us and destroy any vestige of American sovereignty. Those who are true patriots are being disparaged and most stupid Americans are complacently and gullibly sitting back and doing nothing to ensure their own freedom. Nazi Germany, 2009. God blessed America; we curse God, so we will now be subject to the tyranny of man by the foolish choice of many.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
1 Sep 09
The people are waking up--I think the economy helped to do that. Once you take away our little luxuries and our 900 channels of crap we regain consciousness and reason, and that's what has happened. I hope it is nonviolent, but that's up to the president mostly. And you're right, we as a nation rejected God and now He is showing us how much we need Him.